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Post by hypoman on Mar 27, 2013 17:54:23 GMT 7
good comment mel. i often wondered that myself regharding paying tax on your clink payments...
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Post by mike007 on Jun 24, 2013 13:56:40 GMT 7
The system likes to have control and power over recipients of their system including all of us on the dsp.
It is all very political so they play these silly games and all very draconian. It is the carrot and stick mentality.
They should be compassionate and fair and allow those dsp recipients who desire to live with family or friends overseas the right to unlimited portabilty and especially longterm dsp recipients 50 years of age and over.
The system has done it's homework and I would say that it has to do mostly with money saving as they view the situation as follows: If your on the dsp and living here in Australia you buy food, petrol, pay motor vehicle registration and insurance, buy shoes and clothing etc so they are receiving gst/ taxes and revenue from us.
On the other hand if you live overseas permanent in the eyes of the system you are no longer a permanent resident and you are not paying gst etc and they don't like that.
The very least that they can do is go back to 26 weeks/ 6 months portabilty for all dsp recipients however ideally they should allow genuine longterm dsp recipients unlimited portabilty without all the silly and draconian jca and medical review red tape which is all deliberately and intentionally designed to get as many genuine people off the dsp on to newstart then work for a very basic wage maybe 2 or 3 days per week and many older recipients will not be able to work so they will be on newstart longterm until aged pension age.
Young people still living at home with their parents can survive on newstart however not people who rent and live on their own. It is a social injustice.
Again as I aforesaid they have no compassion or empathy at all and this is the 21st century.
It is therefore high time for some fairness and balance with regards to this matter, there needs soon to be some changes in legislation.
I rest my case folks.
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Post by baranghope on Jun 24, 2013 15:44:55 GMT 7
Finally, Mike007, a rational unbiased honest summary article on behalf of us oldies with several ailments and little time. Best thing I have read on this forum in a year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2013 17:23:35 GMT 7
Finally, Mike007, a rational unbiased honest summary article on behalf of us oldies with several ailments and little time. Best thing I have read on this forum in a year. I couldn't agree more Baranghope, and I don't know who you are yet Mike007, but thank you for your insightful and refreshing viewpoints and we can only implore you to continue with this form of input:) This is the exact type of rationale that our beloved forum deserves and should expect. Your views are not only insightful and obviously pertinent, but they are expressed tacitly and have found a new home for your professional penmanship:) Bravo Sir; Bravo...
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Post by tim2013 on Jun 24, 2013 18:26:04 GMT 7
:)very nice words cheetal, i hope u not say that mike007 is maxi and has japanese girls too.. joke
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Post by mike007 on Aug 19, 2013 12:53:53 GMT 7
Thank you for your kind words and appreciation with regards to my earlier post.
I firmly believe the best approach to this so called complex matter regarding unlimited portabilty of our dsp is for us all to band together as a united group with a common goal, objective and mission to achieve our aim which boils down to our basic democratic rights and the Government regardless who is in power should not dictate or enforce harsh draconian laws/ legislation to make our current disabilty worse as most of are older and fragile people and we do not need stress or truama.
They need to understand and give us due respect, compassion and remove the us and them carrot and stick silly childish mentality/ attitude as we are no fools and it is high time that the system operated in a more professional and compassionate manner because after all we the people vote them in to power and they need to therefore work in the very best interests of the same people that vote them into power. After all they are Public Servants to serve the people, not abuse or discrimate against the people and the likes of us dsp recipients.
The best approach concerning our dsp portabilty is to unite together and write to the PM or to the Leader of the Greens Party stating our concern and our case. It is all about numbers/ the more the merrier and going via the right channels that will eventually instigate changes in legislation that will work in our favour.
Action speaks louder than words.
If Abbott is elected as PM at the next Federal election on 7th of September then God help us and he may pass a future legislation where by all dsp recipients will be required under his new draconian legislation to attend a compulsory JCA assesment and medical review. Abbott and Hockey want to create 2 million new jobs and it may be that they will do this by targeting dsp recipients. He may copy the UK Social Security model which has been in force for the past 2 years regarding people their on the equivalent to our dsp.
The Australian Media is very biased or pro right wing LNP and on a mission to bag Kevin Rudd and the ALP.
People power is the way to defeat or overturn such draconian legislation that has no place in the 21st century in a so called democratic country based on a so called fair and just Westminster System based on the the Magna Carter which is a charter of rights for all citizens of the Commonwealth and that is what our Government system is supposed to be based on.
So unite and band together in big numbers and write to our PM or the Greens Leader and place constant pressure and obligation on their shoulders I feel is the best solution in dealing with this matter.
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Post by Banjo on Aug 19, 2013 15:05:31 GMT 7
Thanks Mike007, could you keep the posts a little less political and we would consider it a courtesy if you joined the board before posting again. (You may have to anyway if the Banjo system of message board control panel adjustment has finally got it right... beam me up Scotty...).
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Post by Banjo on Mar 27, 2022 7:46:49 GMT 7
I see that Kim Carr is retiring and riding into the sunset to enjoy his fat pension and benefits. If he left a legacy during his brief tenure as Human Services Minister it's that he did absolutely nothing for Australian Pensioners.
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Post by bear on Mar 27, 2022 12:38:55 GMT 7
Some déjà vu moments going back over parts of this thread and most insightful on the part of Mike007. Who'd a though eh; but here we are..... Cheers bear
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Post by nomadic on Mar 27, 2022 20:56:39 GMT 7
I see that Kim Carr is retiring and riding into the sunset to enjoy his fat pension and benefits. If he left a legacy during his brief tenure as Human Services Minister it's that he did absolutely nothing for Australian Pensioners. Actually, his staffer was the only one from the dozens of politicians and others I contacted to ever call me back. Offered advice that by chance only, came true.
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Post by kimmy on May 21, 2022 23:23:06 GMT 7
Raised by a single parent who was on the disability pension, our newly elected Prime Minister is empathetic to the disadvantaged in Australia.
Am wondering if changes to the overseas travel payment for dsp would be considered.
Cheers
Kimmy
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Post by bear on May 22, 2022 7:49:56 GMT 7
Since it was a Labor government that gave us our current legislation re portability kimmy , I won't be holding my breath. Whilst the PM seems to be empathetic personally due to his own circumstances, he also has factions he'll have to deal with so, until I see positive changes for welfare recipients in real terms, I'm reserving my opinions. Cheers 🐻
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Post by Banjo on May 22, 2022 8:11:20 GMT 7
I'll pop off a (another) letter asking why the portability is based on a single ailment only while the DSP takes into account multiple disabilities.
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Post by genx on May 22, 2022 11:21:28 GMT 7
I'll pop off a (another) letter asking why the portability is based on a single ailment only while the DSP takes into account multiple disabilities. The Review for Portability JCA takes into account any disabilities that you have, according to my RfP JCA. Only one of the disabilities has to be severe and 20 points in the table. Unless this is what you mean, which now I think about it is probably the case. I doubt that the incoming government will loosen the Indefinite Portability rules. The best we can hope for is a relaxation of the time allowed overseas for people that don't have Indefinite Portability. The one month rule is very harsh.
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Post by tasjo on May 22, 2022 13:04:27 GMT 7
Multiple disabilities and the difference between dsp and carers portability are 2 things it would be amazing to see addressed.
That carers can have multiple 6 week paid portability periods but the dsp recipient is cut off after 28 days puts the dsp recipient in a financially vulnerable position - particularly when so many are more open to abuse.
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