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Post by Banjo on Dec 3, 2010 18:27:36 GMT 7
These are Centrelinks current residency forms. Attachments:
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Post by Banker on Dec 4, 2010 9:27:17 GMT 7
I wonder what the form from Immigration Dept looks like if they have one?
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Post by Banjo on Dec 4, 2010 10:47:00 GMT 7
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Post by Banker on Dec 4, 2010 16:59:41 GMT 7
My intention was to visit Immigration when I return to Australia and find out from the horse mouth what the law is. As I wont be returning until late 2011 it would be good if someone on this board could do it on their next return to Australia and let us know the result.
It may help if you could get something in Writing from them.
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Post by Banjo on Dec 4, 2010 17:45:51 GMT 7
I think it would be relatively unproductive.
Centrelink's whole point is that if they consider someone a non-resident for their purposes it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
We're dealing with arrogance and discrimination at a high level here.
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Post by rodcourt49 on Dec 19, 2010 9:20:02 GMT 7
I think it would be relatively unproductive. Centrelink's whole point is that if they consider someone a non-resident for their purposes it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. We're dealing with arrogance and discrimination at a high level here. ..I know we all receive the obligatory letter after we return to our respective 'fox-holes' however, 'C' keep twisiting things as per my attached letter. <Para> 7 December 2010..>You have advised us you do not intend to return to Australia<..crap I told them on he phone my next intended date ie March 6, 2011. At least I have been given breathing/consideration space until March 8, when by that date the House will have resumed and the proposed legislation amendment decided perhaps! Has anyone been able to find the "Questions" put before the House for debate, to actually find the wording of the proposed amendments?? |
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Post by Banjo on Dec 19, 2010 14:03:24 GMT 7
Basically the the bill amends the Social Security Act to require that a person must be an Australian resident to receive DSP. The Australian Government today introduced legislation to crack down on people on the Disability Support Pension (DSP) who live permanently overseas but return to Australia every 13 weeks in order to retain their pension.
The Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs and Other Legislation Amendment (Budget and Other Measures) Bill 2010 was introduced into Parliament today.
The legislation will close a loophole that has resulted in cases of DSP recipients living permanently overseas and flying back to Australia every 13 weeks to continue receiving the pension.
From January 2011, only DSP recipients permanently residing in Australia will be able to continue to receive the DSP except under limited and specific circumstances.
This change will bring DSP into line with other workforce age payments.
The Government is cracking down to ensure the system is fair and effective.www.jennymacklin.fahcsia.gov.au/mediareleases/2010/Pages/jm_m_dsp_res_20october2010.aspxThe exact wording of the amendments to the bill can be found on this forum, or on the Australian parliamentary website. www.austlii.com/au/legis/cth/bill_em/fhcsaiaaolaaomb20101067/memo_1.htmlThe worrying part is, who will determine residency and what criteria will they use? |
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Post by rodcourt49 on Dec 20, 2010 8:54:16 GMT 7
I found more info. about the current stage of the reading of the amendment bill having been passed by the House of Reps and now before the Senate in its 2nd reading stage with debate adjourned on 22/11/10. It appears to have been tabled and then adjourned without reading or debate. (I put a web-link for the info. of those DSPers interested). ROD. Extract from Senate Bills List Page 46 (See web link below). Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs and Other Legislation Amendment (Budget and Other Measures) Bill 2010 Amends the: Social Security Act 1991 to provide that only Australian residents qualify for disability support pensions; Social Security Act 1991 and Veterans’ Entitlements Act 1986 to: provide that leave payments are included when calculating income concessions; provide that the work bonus rules apply to couples who receive separate income support payments from different agencies; and respond to recommendations of the Senate Standing Committee on Community Affairs report Building trust: Supporting families through Disability Trusts by reducing the work capacity and trust purpose requirements for special disability trusts; A New Tax System (Family Assistance) Act 1999 and A New Tax System (Family Assistance) (Administration) Act 1999 to provide that students studying overseas full-time are treated for family tax benefit purposes similarly to full-time students studying in Australia; and Social Security Act 1991 and Social Security (Administration) Act 1999 to make minor and technical amendments. Reps: Intro. 20/10/10; Passed 18/11/10 SC report no. 3 (presented 21/10/10): No reference CID amendments: 3 Govt/passed Senate: Intro. 22/11/10; 2nd reading adjourned 22/11/10 SBC report 13/10 (tabled and adopted 28/10/10): Provisions of: Schedules 2 and 3 of bill referred to Community Affairs Legislation Committee; report tabled 22/11/10 Schedule 4 of bill referred to Legal and Constitutional Affairs Legislation Committee; report due first sitting day in 2011 parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbillslst%2Fbillslst_c5cb7dfd-6ea5-42d2-bea7-a4c40e628ce8%22 |
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Post by Banjo on Dec 20, 2010 10:41:34 GMT 7
It was blocked by the Liberals Rod, something to do with income from trust accounts.
It will be tabled again next year, probably with some adjustment to satisfy both parties.
We reported and discussed this in the General forum at the time if you want to have a hunt for it.
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Post by Banjo on Dec 31, 2010 15:18:36 GMT 7
These are Centrelinks current residency forms. Going through some papers today and came across this form which I had to fill in last year. Seems to be custom made for individuals. 1. Please provide a detailed statement of how you fund your travel requirements to Thailand.
2. Please provide a detailed statement of your place of accommodation in Thailand.
3. Please provide a detailed statement of what ties you have to Thailand.
4. Are you a member of a couple?
5. Do you have an overseas bank account or own property in Thailand?
6. Please provide a detailed statement on what ties you have to Australia.
7. Please provide a detailed statement on how you support yourself whilst staying in Thailand.
8. Do you do paid work while staying in Thailand?
9. Are you involved in self employment or operating a business while staying in Thailand?
I declare that to the best of my knowledge my answers to the above questions are true and correct. I understand there are penalties for deliberately giving false or misleading information. |
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Post by Banker on Jan 2, 2011 14:25:15 GMT 7
These are Centrelinks current residency forms. Going through some papers today and came across this form which I had to fill in last year. Seems to be custom made for individuals. 1. Please provide a detailed statement of how you fund your travel requirements to Thailand.
2. Please provide a detailed statement of your place of accommodation in Thailand.
3. Please provide a detailed statement of what ties you have to Thailand.
4. Are you a member of a couple?
5. Do you have an overseas bank account or own property in Thailand?
6. Please provide a detailed statement on what ties you have to Australia.
7. Please provide a detailed statement on how you support yourself whilst staying in Thailand.
8. Do you do paid work while staying in Thailand?
9. Are you involved in self employment or operating a business while staying in Thailand?
I declare that to the best of my knowledge my answers to the above questions are true and correct. I understand there are penalties for deliberately giving false or misleading information. I have never seen anything like this before. Was this sent to you in the mail or handed to you at one of C/L office? |
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Post by Banjo on Jan 2, 2011 16:35:16 GMT 7
Both I think, I seem to recall filling it in several times.
May have something to do with changing C'link offices regularly.
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Post by bundyrum on Mar 17, 2013 5:41:16 GMT 7
It was blocked by the Liberals Rod, something to do with income from trust accounts. It will be tabled again next year, probably with some adjustment to satisfy both parties. We reported and discussed this in the General forum at the time if you want to have a hunt for it. so why is it a LOOPHOLE..if it's within the law..you do what they want and your still in the poooopp.. |
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