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Post by dave3478 on Nov 28, 2015 11:33:24 GMT 7
Mr Morrison thinks that taking money from super and giving it back in tax breaks is GREAT..Let me think..I dont work so no tax but GST of cause..A man or woman on $600 a week wont get much from a tax break..but a man or woman on $3000 a week gets a real good deal. Again its hit the poor by taking some super back and giving to the rich. The pension is never even used in his language now..Its welfare PAYMENT. WE need the tax to support this country..Taking mining taxes away from rich mining companies did not help the bottom line...Plus it was only on super profits..Its always take from the weak and defenceless by this government. PS make the multinational company's pay there tax in AUSTRALIA not some country
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 15:16:08 GMT 7
Notice how Morison makes these statements the moment Turnbull is out of the country.
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Post by dave3478 on Nov 29, 2015 10:08:27 GMT 7
I just saw the news about the attack on the pension system for farmers. Because they have a lot of land they will not get a pension from 2017. Only 2 hectares around the house is exempt from the asset test.The war has begun by Liberal national party's against all senior Australians. If you pay all TAXs in Australia then your entitled to a pension. Thats what we are fighting for .Not excuses this government comes up with.. We all have paid for our right to retire. Give our jobs to the younger generation who need the work..Stopping older Australians from retiring is ludicrous. Look at Norway and other thinking nations who look after the elderly. Not punish them for working hard and paying there taxes.
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Post by dave3478 on Nov 29, 2015 10:59:42 GMT 7
I been thinking, After reading many senior Australians posts Stopping people from retiring at an earlier age and living on there own assets till retirement age, I would think is very discriminatory. no 1.. Its there own money they are using. no 2.. They are saving the country millions by living over seas and not accessing medical and other benefits in Australia. no 3.. They are living cheaply in another country as Australia has priced it self out of there affordability range. no 4.. They are giving younger Australians a chance to work by not applying for jobs. no 5.. They are not accessing rent assistance or housing giving those that need housing a better chance.
I am sure there are many savings that this government could make by relaxing Portability rules. By making older Australians grovel and beg is not the Australian way. Give us our dignity and stop Centrelink from making us feel like has beens and putting up walls that dont help Australia or Older Australians.
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Post by immiadvice on Nov 29, 2015 15:52:56 GMT 7
I been thinking, After reading many senior Australians posts Stopping people from retiring at an earlier age and living on there own assets till retirement age, I would think is very discriminatory. no 1.. Its there own money they are using. no 2.. They are saving the country millions by living over seas and not accessing medical and other benefits in Australia. no 3.. They are living cheaply in another country as Australia has priced it self out of there affordability range. no 4.. They are giving younger Australians a chance to work by not applying for jobs. no 5.. They are not accessing rent assistance or housing giving those that need housing a better chance. The government doesn't stop anyone from retiring at any age and don't care where a self funded retiree (of any age) lives.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 16:21:22 GMT 7
Agree and when politicians say that pensions should be consumed within Australia in some way to boost the economy, it can be argued that self funded retirees having had tax concessions on their super should do the same. And that could apply to politicians pension as well? Of course they would determine those funds are different.
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Post by Banjo on Nov 29, 2015 16:29:21 GMT 7
I think that the focus is now on getting people off pensions or cutting back on their payments. Penalising portability of payments hasn't been a great success for them. When the target hardens up they change their aim.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 16:51:41 GMT 7
Certainly the new impairment tables have done that. I would think that once those have been assessed again under those new tables and have been granted IP that should be it. But, we wonder if they will just do it all again with even harsher tables?
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Post by Banjo on Nov 29, 2015 16:59:49 GMT 7
To be honest I think that they have achieved the goal that Gillard/Macklin set out to do, and that was limiting the number of people getting on to it. The Libs tried to take it a step further by chucking people off the DSP and this hasn't worked nearly as well as they hoped. Turned out most of those bludgers were really crook after all.
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Post by dave3478 on Nov 29, 2015 18:15:44 GMT 7
Just a note..from my post that if your not pension age your living on your own savings.. Self funded retirement is another ball game all together . If I was in that league I would bugger off to Thailand tomorrow. But I will need a pension as my savings wont stretch that far. If I was self funded I would make sure I never had to come back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 18:20:20 GMT 7
Agreed banjo. Many people underwent assessment under the new tables and low and behold, it was found their conditions had worsened. If only govt had understood what manifest meant under the old tables that a permanent condition was such. But, who are we to tell them........
Has anyone discovered the actual cost of a whole new assessment?
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Post by scallywag on Nov 30, 2015 5:27:08 GMT 7
Notice how Morison makes these statements the moment Turnbull is out of the country. Considering Moralesson was given the job as treasurer because he was prepared to knife Abblott , you would think Turdbull would be keeping a closer eye on him. Maybe Mal is giving him enough rope so replacing him will be easier.
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Post by Banjo on Nov 30, 2015 7:22:42 GMT 7
The trouble is with Liberal politicians is that you're restricted when you get to jobs requiring higher levels of mathematics. Like counting to ten without using your fingers.
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Post by dave3478 on Nov 30, 2015 7:48:44 GMT 7
Its very easy to demonise Australians for being sick or disabled .Every one on a pension is defrauding the tax payers.
Thats what Bolt and others are doing by there rants on TV and Radio.. Its like brain washing the general public into believing older Australians are bad people in a very methodical way. Slowly convince every one we don't need social welfare or pensions because they are all crooks taking our taxes. The fact they are wasting Millions on unemployment subcontractors is okay by them. This call for more Jobs and working till 70 is so far off the planet its scary. They cant even get Mcdonalds to hire old people. Let alone anyone else.
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Post by deejtj on Sept 7, 2016 10:08:17 GMT 7
Welfare rights have helped me twice they were very good. Be careful do not trust Centrelink my first experience was crazy, when we received the file through freedom of information Centrelink had forged my signature to several papers. Fortunately I keep every original document and produced them at the tribunal hearing, game over.
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