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Post by brad61 on Apr 15, 2014 6:08:23 GMT 7
I've just been on the Ph to International services inquiring about applying for UP, after speaking to them i'm now in two minds if it's even worth applying..Zero work capacity to be granted UP..I told them i have no doubt that i would pass the medical assessment, but what's the point when you guys will just deny me because obviously i would have to be a paraplegic to have zero work capacity ?..They said even if you pass the medical by a specialist ,we can still assess that you can work 8 hours a fortnight although you won't lose your DSP you just won't have UP..so what the point ?..I said to her well you guys will just say i can sit in a chair and do an office job, then she says well i guess if thats the case you'd be doing that now right ?.She said we can send you the form and if you don't want to go ahead with it it's up to you..To my understanding it's a double edge sword applying..I said to her you guys are denying left,right and center no wonder so many pensioners are to afraid to even apply..Its seems to me its like the sting operations you see on tv..send crims out a notice that they've won the lottery then when they all come it to claim..bang we got you sucker !!!..Seems like if you can walk and sit upright then UP is out of the question ? PS..They also told me there is a 5 to 6 months wait ATM....
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Post by Banjo on Apr 15, 2014 7:14:54 GMT 7
The qualification for the unlimited portability is 20 points in a single disability in the impairment tables.
We have a remarkably good strike rate here with successful applications by members, indeed three in the last month, none of whom, to my knowledge, are in a wheel chair.
I suggest you get yourself organised and your application in, at the moment you have nothing but you have the chance to live and travel where you please like free Australians.
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Post by anthonydsp on Apr 15, 2014 12:17:38 GMT 7
hi brad61 maybe you should download or look at the new tables to see if you qualify and if you think you will qualify 20 points in a single disability then my advice is go for it i did and i was succsessful on my up application and im enjoyimg life where i want to live overseas
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Post by immiadvice on Apr 16, 2014 2:08:18 GMT 7
I was also granted UP. I applied with no intention of using it. Just to see if I could get it. Which I did.
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Post by Banjo on Apr 16, 2014 6:59:57 GMT 7
I understand you have had one overseas trip since, how long after you were granted UP did you go?
While I have your attention, I use a book readers forum that doesn't appear to be on Tapatalk's list.
Can I add it myself?
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Post by immiadvice on Apr 16, 2014 9:34:15 GMT 7
For tapatalk to work the forum must be running the tapatalk server software. If its not on the list I doubt its running the software.
As for travel. I went overseas 3 months after gaining UP.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 12:54:18 GMT 7
l was wondering how exactly do you get unlimited portability , do you have do you need to get 20 points under those new medical tables they bought in at 2011 and do you have to show you can not work a certain about of hours a week? how many hours .Does everyone who applies for unlimted portability take the risk of losing their DSP And being moved to newstart, but would that risk be tiny for people who got their DSP after the changes in 2011 but the risk a lot greater for people who got their DSP before then
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Post by Banjo on Apr 16, 2014 15:49:04 GMT 7
There's plenty of experience to learn from here.
Basically you need 20 points in the impairment tables in one disability.
In theory you could end up with not enough points to qualify for the DSP, it could happen to people who went on the DSP a few years back but I haven't heard of anyone so far.
What you need to think about now is if you stand to lose anything and what you stand to gain.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 18:10:14 GMT 7
There's plenty of experience to learn from here. Basically you need 20 points in the impairment tables in one disability. In theory you could end up with not enough points to qualify for the DSP, it could happen to people who went on the DSP a few years back but I haven't heard of anyone so far. What you need to think about now is if you stand to lose anything and what you stand to gain. Just say l wanted to spend 3 to 6 months living overseas with realtives as a one off thing not to live overseas permanently and wanted to still get my DSP while overseas, is getting unlimited portability the only way to do that? |
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Post by Banjo on Apr 17, 2014 19:21:15 GMT 7
Yes, if it's a non-agreement country.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 6:29:59 GMT 7
Yes, if it's a non-agreement country. is the Uk a non agreement country? |
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Post by Banjo on Apr 18, 2014 6:44:39 GMT 7
No, the agreement was cancelled a while back.
Brits can live in Australia and get a pension but Australia wont pay Australian pensioners living in the UK.
If you have worked in the UK you may be entitled to some pension but it wont be much.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 7:20:20 GMT 7
No, the agreement was cancelled a while back. Brits can live in Australia and get a pension but Australia wont pay Australian pensioners living in the UK. If you have worked in the UK you may be entitled to some pension but it wont be much. Thanks Banjo, having U.P would be handy to have as it would mean l could spend six months with relatives in the UK if l ever wanted to in the future, but not worth risking my DSP over, l got the DSP in 2008 under the old rules. l was wondering if or when my DSP come up for a review should l apply for U.P then, because l guess l would have nothing to risk then, or would applying for U.P the same time as a review just complicate the review? |
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Post by Banjo on Apr 18, 2014 11:05:59 GMT 7
I'd wait until after the review.
But then if you don't get a review you'll never apply will you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 14:43:17 GMT 7
I'd wait until after the review. But then if you don't get a review you'll never apply will you? Yes good idea, if l apply soon after a review then theres almost no risk of losing the DSP as l just got my 20 points. l'd like to spend 6 months living with my relatives but at this stage don't think it would be worth the risk and stress of applying unless my review came up and l passed. Does everyone on the DSP get reviewed, apart from people classifed as manifest disabled, l've been on the DSP almost 6 years and haven't been reviewed, anyone had the DSP 10 years or more years and not been reviewed. |
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