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Post by wooloowinpaul on Mar 8, 2016 10:00:16 GMT 7
I was out of Australia for 2 years & 4 months, before i came back to claim my age pension. i applied for the pension on 28 September 2015 . I was told I could not have portability for 2 years. that i can have full portability on September 29 2017 . i decided that after having been here for 5 months i needed to see my fiance in the Philippines. i called the overseas section of Centerlink . ok i said i am going for 3 weeks , will this be tagged onto the end of my 2 years wait. I was told no that doesnt apply anymore. So i gave the dates that i will be away & that my Centerlink payment will be stopped for the 3 weeks i am away & that when i get back I am to call them up so as to get my payments reinstated. I dont know how long this rule has been in as i know that not so long ago. the time was tagged onto your 2 years. i got this information 2 weeks ago. dont know if it will help anyone
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Post by chris on Mar 8, 2016 12:02:23 GMT 7
I was out of Australia for 2 years & 4 months, before i came back to claim my age pension. i applied for the pension on 28 September 2015 . I was told I could not have portability for 2 years. that i can have full portability on September 29 2017 . i decided that after having been here for 5 months i needed to see my fiance in the Philippines. i called the overseas section of Centerlink . ok i said i am going for 3 weeks , will this be tagged onto the end of my 2 years wait. I was told no that doesnt apply anymore. So i gave the dates that i will be away & that my Centerlink payment will be stopped for the 3 weeks i am away & that when i get back I am to call them up so as to get my payments reinstated. I dont know how long this rule has been in as i know that not so long ago. the time was tagged onto your 2 years. i got this information 2 weeks ago. dont know if it will help anyone I heard that from a reliable source, who is just back from his 24 months. He went out a few times and was told the absence should not exceed 13 weeks (not sure if that's cumulative, or per occurrence). He thought 3-4 short absences of under 2 weeks with loss of payment was acceptable.
Previously they tacked it on, so I think your information is up to date.
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Post by Banjo on Mar 8, 2016 12:21:47 GMT 7
I'm surprised that you did not appeal on losing portability for such a short period of time away. I'm not sure how to go about it after 5 months but I'm prepared to find out if you are interested. With more than 18 months to go it would help fill in your time and you stand to lose nothing and may be home early.
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Post by wooloowinpaul on May 12, 2016 17:20:43 GMT 7
Sorry I haven't looked on the board for a while Banjo.About 2or3weeks after my first centerlink payment, a lady called me from centerline.said as I was now back in Australia I couldn't receive portability without staying 2years.she then promptly hung up. I thought they just must be letting people know the rules. When I called centerlink to advise them about my trip to the Philippines I talked to a very nice lady.I asked her about the 2 year rule she went away a few minutes later , gave me the date I arrived back in Australia , then told me my time would be up on 29 September 2017.That's the rules she said. Now if you can look at things & let me know that would be great. I suppose I am like a lot of people when dealing with government departments. You expect them to know the rules & regulations. If you could look into it further I would be gratefully no matter the outcome. As like everyone else in my position , we just want to be with our families.
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Post by Banjo on May 13, 2016 8:44:56 GMT 7
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Post by eight on May 13, 2016 17:34:56 GMT 7
Sorry I haven't looked on the board for a while Banjo.About 2or3weeks after my first centerlink payment, a lady called me from centerline.said as I was now back in Australia I couldn't receive portability without staying 2years.she then promptly hung up. I thought they just must be letting people know the rules. When I called centerlink to advise them about my trip to the Philippines I talked to a very nice lady.I asked her about the 2 year rule she went away a few minutes later , gave me the date I arrived back in Australia , then told me my time would be up on 29 September 2017.That's the rules she said. Now if you can look at things & let me know that would be great. I suppose I am like a lot of people when dealing with government departments. You expect them to know the rules & regulations. If you could look into it further I would be gratefully no matter the outcome. As like everyone else in my position , we just want to be with our families. And there lies the problem we have been sucked into and we are still letting them get control of us because we let it happen. All your communication with c/link should be in writing. End of story.
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Post by scarred on May 24, 2016 22:52:08 GMT 7
I heard that from a reliable source, .... He went out a few times and was told the absence should not exceed 13 weeks (not sure if that's cumulative, or per occurrence)............
This seems to be the best place to ask my question. My Age Pension was cut-off soon after applying at 65, because of allegedly not being a resident, AND me retelling them my continuing desire to live overseas. I needed to reduce anxiety whilst getting around to an appeal process (based on 15 years continuous Australian residency at that time), and so went overseas for approx. 25 weeks before returning to Australia for a short time, and then overseas again, now for 23 weeks. Have I lost the chance for a successful appeal, given the thought that if successful, I would have lost it again by being overseas too long? it's important to me because I have to decide whether to bother with another trip to Australia. Thanks in advance for any replies.
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Post by Banjo on May 25, 2016 7:54:46 GMT 7
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Post by jessemojo4 on Jun 25, 2016 4:26:50 GMT 7
I returned to Oz after dsp cancellation to find out I'm no longer a resident. Eventually dsp got restarted now I'm a former resident and become resident after 2 yrs. I was told over phone I can leave twice a year for less than 13 wks and it wont affect 2yr residency date. She said any more could question it. I've learnt the hard way not to believe what c/l tell me on the phone and now always request a receipt no. of any conversation
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Post by Banjo on Jun 25, 2016 7:53:49 GMT 7
Jeez Jesse, I'd take that with a grain of salt.
What is 100% though is that the DSP is a residency based payment and if you're on it when you reach age pension Age they cannot deny you portability as a non-resident.
I know this from my personal experience.
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Post by jessemojo4 on Jun 25, 2016 8:15:14 GMT 7
My sentiments exactly, I did have one 12 wk unpaid trip since but that can be added to my 2yr deadline. Golly Winter has hit Vic
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Post by Banjo on Jun 25, 2016 9:32:39 GMT 7
Watched a bit of the Collingwood game yesterday, only 20,000 people and they were done up like Eskimos. (Like Thais when the temperature plummets to 25c).
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Post by nomadic on Jun 25, 2016 16:36:10 GMT 7
If they tell you that you are not a resident of Oz ask them where you are a resident? maybe there are many stateless Australians. I am Australian resident only even if i havn't been there most of the time in the last 20 years. I have no residency anywhere else so as a passport holder i am either an Australian resident or stateless. Again, do not trust anything they say over the phone.
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Post by eight on Jun 25, 2016 16:58:22 GMT 7
If they tell you that you are not a resident of Oz ask them where you are a resident? maybe there are many stateless Australians. I am Australian resident only even if i havn't been there most of the time in the last 20 years. I have no residency anywhere else so as a passport holder i am either an Australian resident or stateless. Again, do not trust anything they say over the phone.[/b] And I keep telling you guy's to stop talking to them over the phone. If you cannot write a letter, go into their C/l office. Tell them you are deaf and need the answer in writing so you can give it to your lawyer . It is your right to have all information in writing .
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Post by Banjo on Jun 25, 2016 17:41:22 GMT 7
If they tell you that you are not a resident of Oz ask them where you are a resident? maybe there are many stateless Australians. I am Australian resident only even if i havn't been there most of the time in the last 20 years. I have no residency anywhere else so as a passport holder i am either an Australian resident or stateless. Again, do not trust anything they say over the phone.[/b] And I keep telling you guy's to stop talking to them over the phone. If you cannot write a letter, go into their C/l office. Tell them you are deaf and need the answer in writing so you can give it to your lawyer . It is your right to have all information in writing .[/quote] Maybe so but actually getting it is another story. A lot of our members can speak from hard experience here. And getting them to talk to you off the phone is another matter, anyone senior or with the power to actually change a decision sits in a private office a long way from the rabble. I've been trying to get this through to people for years, they don't care if you get angry and go away. In fact it's all part of the plan.
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