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Post by nomadic on Feb 6, 2017 6:54:25 GMT 7
Banjo, my dealings with them were very recent. Twice complaints to dept of H.S. both posted were a total farce of nothing but lies and only a two months ago emails from ombudsman were fobbed off after i sent them a 30 page story of my last 20 years with Satan link. I will be seeking a face to face meeting with ombudsman when in oz in March because so far there answers to me have been totally unacceptable. So i want it explained to me face to face. As for the above this is now the usual practice for nobody to be given DSP first up no matter how disabled you are. The above is surely from some comedy show though. Jongen the star once again. HA HA HA HA HA. I can't growl at fictional stuff. Person with heart problem driving trams on an island with no tracks.
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Post by Banjo on Feb 6, 2017 8:29:23 GMT 7
I'll agree that your personal experiences have been pretty bad Nomadic but I'd still not advise people against using anything that the government puts in place for complaints by the public. What we do say is placed on record regardless of the outcome.
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Post by murphy on Feb 6, 2017 11:13:10 GMT 7
Clay, is your Satanlink online account "linked" to your MyGov account? It seems odd you're still getting paper mail - even review notices are going out via Satanlink online. Satanlink won't send you email. MyGov sends an alert when something is deposited into your inbox, be it a Medicare statement or a letter from Satan - you won't know what it is until you get to the inbox.
I had to take a few separate steps to link my Satanlink account to MyGov, and then a few more to link my ATO account. It's not intuitive yet - they're not automatically linked up.
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Post by latindancer on Feb 6, 2017 11:14:29 GMT 7
Mr Jongen said an applicant's job capacity is assessed by qualified health professionals to identify "the impact of a person's permanent physical, intellectual, or psychiatric impairment on their ability to work." "The local labour market does not have a bearing on these eligibility criteria," he said. The whole affair is becoming quite bizarre. There should be special rules for Norfolk Islanders. "qualified health professionals" .....yeah, sure.
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Post by murphy on Feb 6, 2017 12:45:23 GMT 7
"Qualified health professionals" sounds flash but doesn't mean much. "Rehabilitation counsellors" only have a diploma - a 12 month course that can be done following an Arts degree, or an engineering one, for that matter, while "rehabilitation consultants" don't necessarily have any academic qualifications.
Satanlink JCAs are now commonly rehabilitation counsellors, because the usual allied health (OTs, clinical psychologist) don't want JCA work now it's become so far removed from their professions. Yes, I know OTs still do it, but far fewer than a decade ago.
So, we have guys with a one year diploma in something not even considered allied health overruling our medicos.
Never was it more important to subpoena these guys to defend their reasoning in the AAT.
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Post by snooks on Feb 6, 2017 12:55:35 GMT 7
People need to be responsible and held accountable for their decisions. Unless the Rehab Consultant is 100% sure, there is no way they should even consider undermining a Doctors Action. It simply is not the right thing to do. I would love to see a Corporal over rule or change a Sgt Majors decision LoL There would be hell to pay and the Corporal would be paying for a very long time. It just does not happen.
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Post by murphy on Feb 6, 2017 16:23:25 GMT 7
There was an AAT decision not too long ago where the medico expressly said that he would like to know where the JCA got her medical degree.
JCAs strike me as types who enjoy power over others. What could be more titillating than overruling a medico and never having to defend your decision?
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Post by clay on Feb 7, 2017 4:22:16 GMT 7
Gidday murphy - I have no idea what Satan link is and Google has not helped. I agree it is "odd you're still getting paper mail" - I have been on MyGov with Centrelink linked (only Dept I am linked to) for several months now. Around the day I put all that in place I got a pdf letter from Centrelink at MyGov saying I would mostly get email from now on. Never happened. Yesterday I checked my "Profile" at the Centrelink part of MyGov and all details exact correct incl ph and email. My impression is they are out to delay our Aged Pensions as long as they can and also could be hoping to bully me into going away. BTW - I notice overseas in the URL - we are nothing to do with those issues - feet firmly in Oz.
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Post by snooks on Feb 7, 2017 6:09:27 GMT 7
Satan Link = Centre Link lol
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Post by nomadic on Feb 7, 2017 6:27:01 GMT 7
i think satin link should be the next new word for the oxford dictionary because growl is already there. last years new one was ?? truth if i recall. i could make up a few for the first part that i can't remember. possibly hank truth = lies.
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Post by murphy on Feb 7, 2017 7:30:16 GMT 7
Sorry, clay. I'm accustomed to demonizing Centrelink. I think you have done all that you can to keep matters moving forward. It's up to you whether you want to go the MP and Centrelink complaints line route. The forum was originally focused on DSP overseas but has expanded to include much more than that. You're in the right spot.
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Post by Banjo on Feb 7, 2017 8:15:26 GMT 7
Indeed, it started off with a few people looking for somewhere to discuss DSP portability issues and we came to realise that there were thousands of people out there with no support or even a place to discuss a whole range of Centrelink issues so it just grew from there.
I think that if we have been successful it's because we offer a safe environment restricted to people with problems or those that sympathise.
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Post by clay on Feb 7, 2017 13:44:26 GMT 7
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Post by krystal on Feb 8, 2017 14:30:10 GMT 7
There was an AAT decision not too long ago where the medico expressly said that he would like to know where the JCA got her medical degree. JCAs strike me as types who enjoy power over others. What could be more titillating than overruling a medico and never having to defend your decision? I got a sneak preview of my JCA (which I have asked Centrelink for a copy of including the Government Doctors Reports and any JSCI's that have been done.) These JCA Assessors aren't only over-ruling medicos. My JCA Assessor has over-ruled all the rulings made in my AAT decision. She lowered the impairments points that the AAT granted, called an impairment non-FDTS when the AAT said it was FDTS and decreased my level of support. (mostly what she has done is to copy and pasted her 2013 assessment into the 2017 assessment and thereby came to the same conclusions) What gets me really frustrated (Wrrrrrrr and Grrrrrr and Arrrrrrgh) is that all these reviews are taking place "to get the paperwork right" (apparently) but the JCA Assessors are just writing any damned thing they want on the Assessments regardless of whether they have any basis for the decision.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 14:40:07 GMT 7
There was an AAT decision not too long ago where the medico expressly said that he would like to know where the JCA got her medical degree. JCAs strike me as types who enjoy power over others. What could be more titillating than overruling a medico and never having to defend your decision? I got a sneak preview of my JCA (which I have asked Centrelink for a copy of including the Government Doctors Reports and any JSCI's that have been done.) These JCA Assessors aren't only over-ruling medicos. My JCA Assessor has over-ruled all the rulings made in my AAT decision. She lowered the impairments points that the AAT granted, called an impairment non-FDTS when the AAT said it was FDTS and decreased my level of support. (mostly what she has done is to copy and pasted her 2013 assessment into the 2017 assessment and thereby came to the same conclusions) What gets me really frustrated (Wrrrrrrr and Grrrrrr and Arrrrrrgh) is that all these reviews are taking place "to get the paperwork right" (apparently) but the JCA Assessors are just writing any damned thing they want on the Assessments regardless of whether they have any basis for the decision. I asked the AAT if the JCA assesor that asessed me , could be supoeaned for a AAT level 1 hearing, that i am having soon, to appear and explain the asessment to the Tribunal. This is the reply , by email. "Your email was referred to the Presiding Member who will be conducting the hearing . They advised that we do not subpoena witnesses in our jurisdiction. Our role is to be quick fair and economical. You can discuss these issues at the hearing."
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