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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 7:25:11 GMT 7
📢🐦⚠ Another ludicrous Indue - DSS fail
Remember this post every time you hear: " It's just like an ordinary debit card"
CW: #AdultContentPost .⚠ Via SayNo to WelfareCard ( twitter) @notowelfarecard Jul 17 "How sick is Indue to demand that a person wanting to buy adult products from and online adult store, have to send pics of items wanting to be purchased and await permission to have funds transferred to normal card to make purchase? " #Auspol ⚠ Related Video: Ebay. Bras. Adult products & Indue 18 + info www.facebook.com/kathryn.wilkes.39/videos/10157300447484210/---- ⚠ Dear readers, members, 'quiet Australian's' and rubberneckers, What kind of ' alcohol is a dildo? When did a fitted bra become a gambling product? At what point did marital aids become " crypto currency and gift cards." More importantly - why is Indue Ltd demanding **photographic evidence** of your desired Bra or Vibrator - which are not prohibited products - just to release YOUR funds? Who gets these photos? Where is this data stored? What of our privacy rights? Who is making the decisions? Have dildo's and marital aids been placed on the banned register and someone failed to mention it? Why are sex shops - a necessity for many disabled people - businesses that we KNOW do NOT appear on the banned businesses register suddenly off limits to those forced onto this HUMILIATING and DEGRADING Indue Ltd cashless card? Yes, it has been confirmed by Selina, CDC manager, that this - sending an image and requesting funds to make the purchase online or offline - is the process for buying a dildo. There is *nothing* in the Act that permits this embarrassing, humiliating degradation and the violation of peoples most intimate privacy. There is NOTHING in the act that gives Indue permission to withhold your funds for any purchases outside of the prohibited items listed in the Act. More, it is an act of sexual abuse to demand someone send you images of their underwear let alone your choice of personal sex toys! For many people, especially those with disabilities these services and items are essential and necessary and so this is just another violation of disability and privacy rights being walked passed by this government. INDUE LTD - GET OUT OF OUR BEDROOMS! After years of being told to " go fk ourselves" by everyone from social and national media pro card pundits to the Federal government itself, the sheer audacity and hypocrisy of having even THAT banned is not an irony we can let pass without comment. - SNS m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2418053375131349&id=1415019052101458
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 7:32:18 GMT 7
The above post reminds me of a report read recently to do with underwire bras setting off alarms for visitors going to detention centres, and how it was being dealt with.
Privatization is certainly bringing out the worst of the worst in employees of government services. We are now being stood over by perverts and their ilk. The NSW public strip searches by the NSW coppers....just one more case in point. Cheers bear
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Post by cripple on Jul 21, 2019 12:12:14 GMT 7
I'm getting a it worried about this card because I shop at the markets because it's cheaper but it's a cash transaction. I'm trying to catch up on all this now , can someone one tell me where the current card roll outs are as in which parts of the country the card has been forced on ? and what's the latest stage where at now with this .looks like there pushing for country wide roll out.
I'm reading through this whole cashless card forum now and I am very interested in the latest news , is there any talk of nation wide roll out and if so what's the plan B's
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 15:09:46 GMT 7
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Post by cripple on Jul 21, 2019 18:32:49 GMT 7
The update is where still on trials extended to 2020, also this biggest mob up northern territory and Cape York who are already on income management will be told there getting the cashless card, and also the government now offering a way to get of the card via aplication if can show good income management, and now hundreds now trying to get of it ! looks like its shaping up to be a good fight
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 14:54:40 GMT 7
Twenty or so posts have been moved to "Chinwag" under the title "Occupy Centrelink & Assorted Political Folly"
The new thread has been #closed, but feel free to go read what's still up; then take stock.
Future posts in this thread not directly related to the "Welfare Card Issue" and/or "Income Management" in general, will be deleted without comment.
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Post by paddy on Jul 25, 2019 11:34:11 GMT 7
www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6292790/broader-exit-reasons-for-cashless-welfare/The process for people trying to leave the cashless welfare card program will become more streamlined under a federal government proposal. Government minister Paul Fletcher introduced legislation to the lower house on Thursday which makes the secretary of the Department of Social Services the decision-maker for exit applications. The job is currently up to various community bodies in the trial areas, meaning it's inconsistent, he added. The change also broadens the scope of reasons for why people can leave the trial, with the secretary able to consider their ability to manage their life more generally. Exiting the trial currently comes down to how well welfare recipients are able to manage their financial affairs. The trial is underway in Ceduna in SA, the East Kimberley and Goldfields region in WA, and Bundaberg and Hervey Bay in Queensland. The debit cards look and operate like a regular bank card, except they cannot be used to buy alcohol or gambling products, some gift cards or to withdraw cash. Mr Fletcher says it has decreased instances of drug and alcohol issues, crime, and strengthened community support in the trial areas.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 16:02:00 GMT 7
✊🌿💜 #IMPORTANT: NEW EXEMPTION LEGISLATION TABLED IN SENATE
Message from Senator Rachel Siewert :
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I just wanted to give you an update about what’s going on with the CDC opt-out process as the Government has just introduced legislation to refine the process.
When the Government and Labor rushed through the one year extension to the cashless debit card trial sites before the election – they also agreed to a so called ‘opt out process’. When it begun on July 1 it was clear that this process was not going to work (which by the way is what we said at the time it was introduced).We understand that there have been hundreds of people that have applied for an exemption under this process but they are now stuck in limbo land because the current legislation is unworkable. The Government has today introduced amendments to try and make exemption process work. I understand they will be debated in the Senate next week so as to enable processing of applications to start. Let’s be clear, you all know I hate the cashless debit card and I’m campaigning to get it stopped, but I want to see people being able to opt out if they can, so I would appreciate your feedback on the changes proposed. The amendments deal with: - Improving the wellbeing exemption - Refining criteria for the process - Making a form available - Removing the involvement of community panels - The wellbeing exemption is now clarified as being permanent These changes will enable current applications to be processed so it you are already registered you will be assessed under this legislation. You can find the legislation here: parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r6335_first-reps/toc_pdf/19094b01.pdf;fileType=application/pdf Explanatory memoranda here: parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/ems/r6335_ems_06c9f966-c612-449a-9b9a-a335bf557f96/upload_pdf/713435.pdf;fileType=application/pdfRegards, Rachel m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=789581968103286&id=275344262860395
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Post by cripple on Jul 26, 2019 22:21:46 GMT 7
Very interesting this opt out process
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 6:55:34 GMT 7
Unthought out policy and unintended (you would like to think) consequences. More stories of kids being bullied at school after other students see parents using the cashless debit card, this is not on, but we did warn people that this would happen, but oh no Keith Pitt will not stop pushing till all our most vulnerable are at heel, taking us back to pre war stigma around the poor and their kids! Note:- Bundaberg has the HIGHEST youth suicide outside First Nations Peoples in this country, and now our kids have this to cope with too! #RaiseTheRate #ScrapTheCard m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2424828321120521&id=1415019052101458
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Post by cripple on Jul 29, 2019 12:05:39 GMT 7
Fair dinkum
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 11:36:54 GMT 7
Cashless welfare trial 'demonises, stigmatises' communities: GreensGreens Senator Rachel Siewert wants the controversial welfare card scrapped. The Greens senator has declared the controversial welfare card is fuelling bullying and assault in some trial sites across regional Australia. Rachel Siewert told parliament people on the card had outlined how they feel demonised and stigmatised in the community.
"People have been spat on, called druggies and their children bullied at school because their parents are on the card," she said on Wednesday. The card holds 80 per cent of welfare payments so money can't be spent on alcohol, gambling, cash withdrawals and some gift cards. 'Indigenous people targeted' The trial is underway in Ceduna in SA, the East Kimberley and Goldfields region in WA, and Bundaberg and Hervey Bay in Queensland. Senator Siewert said the trial was targeting Indigenous people. "This is a punitive approach that unfairly discriminates, particularly against first nations communities, and does not work despite the government's rhetoric," she said. The Senate is set to pass legislation which will make the Department of Social Services secretary the decision-maker for exit applications, rather than unelected community bodies that now control the process. Labor wants to change the bill to force the government to produce evidence the scheme is working and make it voluntary from January next year unless community support can be demonstrated. Liberals want 'wider rollout'The Greens want the card scrapped, but will try to amend the legislation to give the department secretary more leeway to exempt people from the trial. New Liberal senator Matt O'Sullivan, who lobbied the Turnbull government to implement the card, wants the scheme to allow for individual goods to be banned. "It's a critical tool to help communities dealing with the devastating effects of alcohol, gambling and drug abuse," he told parliament in his first speech on Tuesday. "I'd like to see a wider rollout into other vulnerable communities across Australia." m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2426920257577994&id=14150190521014587news.com.au/politics/cashless-welfare-card-demonises-greens-c-375351?fbclid=IwAR0YMaM9CUf4R6CAZDjaqhM3ipoTLDAqsexbZaKWgHhTGuIgGvFjPmhSeq8
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Post by nomadic on Aug 1, 2019 19:00:55 GMT 7
Rolling it into complete areas is no different from racial profiling which is obviously pure evil.
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Post by cripple on Aug 2, 2019 18:38:48 GMT 7
I agree with you nomad
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 6:55:32 GMT 7
Change to card exit policy
The federal government has rejected calls from Labor to make the cashless welfare card program voluntary. Labor's social services spokesperson Linda Burney said the card should be opt-in unless there was clear support for it from local communities.
"The government simply cannot continue to impose the card on communities where there is not clear support, and they can't continue to impose it in the absence of evidence about the card's effectiveness," she said in the lower house recently. Ceduna was the first town in Australia to trial the card, in 2016. The proposal came during debate on legislation to alter the trial exit procedure, which Labor supported. The government's legislation to tweak the program passed the lower house, making the secretary of the Department of Social Services the decision-maker for exit applications. The job is currently up to community bodies in a trial area, which the government said meant it was inconsistent. The change also broadens reasons to exit the trial, with the secretary to consider a person's ability to manage their life more generally, rather than just financially. Ms Burney said the trial had been "running too long" and was "no longer a trial", calling on the government to produce "real evidence about the effectiveness of the trial". Meanwhile, both the Greens and the Australian Council of Social Service have rejected the Nationals' proposal to tie an increase to Newstart with the cashless debit card. www.westcoastsentinel.com.au/story/6339585/change-to-cashless-card-exit-policy/?fbclid=IwAR2qUbniOvKO3_3r5-20kD_dXxA78fQGrSUcYs2H9BgPTM78rlYlre5ZyPA
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