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Post by mikey on Apr 10, 2017 9:29:12 GMT 7
The Government seems to have got there department that collects data, producing annual reports for everything. This is the report produced for the DSP. Lots of colourful graphs. disability-support-pension-payment-trends-and-profile-report-june-2016.pdf(Can be a bit slow to load) They intend to release these yearly, instead of the collection of statistics in tables they used to produce. This wouldn't show the 90,000 reviews as they hadn't been going long enough to effect the report. Some of the statistics summaries. There were 814,391 people receiving DSP on 30 June 2015. Looking forward 12 months to 30 June 2016, 759,101 (93.2%) of these people were still receiving DSP at that time. Of the 55,290 people who were no longer receiving DSP at June 2016, 53.4% were receiving Age Pension, 24.1% were deceased, and 13.9% were not receiving any income support, and 6% were receiving Newstart. The number of DSP recipients aged 65 and over has increased from 25,773 in June 2012 to 46,649 in June 2016. Here is the page the pdf is linked from. data.gov.au/dataset/dss-payment-trends-and-profile-reports/resource/b6c50479-ffce-4d12-9fe2-afef7b2282c7?inner_span=True
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 10:19:30 GMT 7
"Measures improving the quality of assessments for DSP have been effective in reducing the growth in the DSP population and recently the population has started to decline. As at the end of June 2016, there were 782,891 people receiving DSP, down from 814,391 in June 2015."
782,891 without taking into account the 90,000 reviews. Interesting.
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Post by Banjo on Apr 10, 2017 10:56:01 GMT 7
So Labor's plan of "make it harder and wait for natural attrition" got rid of about 40,000 of us and the Libs expensive assessments program moved about 3000 onto the dole.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 12:04:00 GMT 7
So Labor's plan of "make it harder and wait for natural attrition" got rid of about 40,000 of us and the Libs expensive assessments program moved about 3000 onto the dole. Yes how many hundreds of millions are they wasting to reassess the 90,000 not to mention the cost of the appeals and all the stress they put those 90,000 people through, l bet it cost far more then they save by kicking 3,000 of the 90,000 onto the dole, also after they pay off the job networks to take the 3,000 it costs as much as just paying them the DPS, also l bet a lot of those 3000 that cant find work or not well enough to work will eventually reapply for the DSP in the future and end up back on it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 12:14:20 GMT 7
"Measures improving the quality of assessments for DSP have been effective in reducing the growth in the DSP population and recently the population has started to decline. As at the end of June 2016, there were 782,891 people receiving DSP, down from 814,391 in June 2015." 782,891 without taking into account the 90,000 reviews. Interesting. The current figure might be closer to 750,000 because or the reviews and the rejection rate.
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Post by krystal on Apr 11, 2017 21:37:50 GMT 7
About time. This report hasn't been released for three years. But it seems confusing. In the first graph they say "Measures improving the quality of assessments for DSP have been effective in reducing the growth in the DSP population .... 782,891 people receiving DSP, down from 814,391 in June 2015." And in the last paragraph they say the DSP population has decrease because "Of the 55,290 people who were no longer receiving DSP at June 2016, 53.4% were receiving Age Pension, 24.1% were deceased, and 13.9% were not receiving any income support." The difference between these two figures is 31,500. If 55,290 people moved to OAP or died, natural attrition is responsible for the decrease in numbers, NOT what they are called "the measures improving the quality of assessment". Spin doctor, watch me spin
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Post by blahblahblah on Apr 12, 2017 4:53:11 GMT 7
In the first graph they say "Measures improving the quality of assessments for DSP have been effective in reducing the growth in the DSP population .... 782,891 people receiving DSP, down from 814,391 in June 2015." And in the last paragraph they say the DSP population has decrease because "Of the 55,290 people who were no longer receiving DSP at June 2016, 53.4% were receiving Age Pension, 24.1% were deceased, and 13.9% were not receiving any income support." No, they don't say the bolded at all. Those people were leaving every year as it was, but being replaced quicker than they were leaving. Now they aren't being replaced, hence the reduction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 5:02:24 GMT 7
There not being replaced because of the government's auto-rejection policy, which encourages applicants to give up.
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Post by mikey on Apr 16, 2017 15:02:39 GMT 7
The telling statistic is the people on DSP less than 5 years. It drops by nearly 100,000 since 2012, when the new tables were implemented.
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Post by Banjo on Apr 17, 2017 7:04:06 GMT 7
Indeed.
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