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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 16:17:18 GMT 7
Even still, it could be worth reapplying for housing. In some country areas in NSW the wait is 2 years. Swapping has become popular as well. I don't know what it's like in QLD. There's community housing, social housing and affordable housing options to consider. But i get what your saying, and you don't want to wait. Just a thought.
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Post by nomadic on May 5, 2017 16:35:06 GMT 7
Hi remus, i think bear summed it up perfectly. I am on UP and i got it after the harsher rules came in in 2012. All i know is that i was deemed manifestly, got 20 points on one table and was told i was unemployable in two interviews over 8 years. As for living in Asia; I can't imagine anyone on welfare not wanting to live here. The only ones that don't are scared of the unknown. I pay $1,500 a year rent and after that I can live on between $50.00 and $150.00 a week depending on what comes up. Just paid $20.00 for 2 months worth of olive oil so was an expensive week. I get $440.00 a week i think. I save enough to take regular trips also. Sadly I had to lose 60% of my bodily functions to have a good life. Beats working 70 hours a week even for $3,000.00 any day. I say go for it even though i share your concern about losing DSP altogether. But sounds like you are entitled to it but many others are also. BUT if you get it it will almost be as good as winning the lottery. The feeling anyhow. So do your homework prior and it will be your decision. Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 16:52:32 GMT 7
Nomadic, do you get rent assistance? It sounds like your living like a king. I reckon there's thousands of dsp's that are too scared to put their livelihood on the line. edit: of course you don't pay enough rent to qualify for rent assistance.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 16:57:12 GMT 7
Krystal unfortunately I doubt we could make an argument based on your prior post because for IP/UP purposes "severely disabled" does not come from The Social Security Act s23 - Dictionary subsection (4B) definition for Severely Disabled but from subsection 94(3B). Sad I know but true, cheers bear Subdivision B—Exceptions to Subdivision A rules 1218AAA Unlimited portability period for disability support pension—severely impaired disability support pensioner (1) The Secretary may make a written determination that a particular person’s maximum portability period for disability support pension is an unlimited period, if all of the following circumstances (the qualifying circumstances) exist: (a) the person is receiving disability support pension; (b) the Secretary is satisfied that the person’s impairment is a severe impairment (within the meaning of subsection 94(3B)); (c) the Secretary is satisfied that the person will have that severe impairment for at least the next 5 years; (d) the Secretary is satisfied that, if the person were in Australia, the severe impairment would prevent the person from performing any work independently of a program of support (within the meaning of subsection 94(4)) within the next 5 years. www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2017C00142/Html/Volume_3#_Toc480463609subsection 94(3B)Severe impairment (3B) A person’s impairment is a severe impairment if the person’s impairment is of 20 points or more under the Impairment Tables, of which 20 points or more are under a single Impairment Table. Example 1: A person’s impairment is of 30 points under the Impairment Tables, made up of 20 points under one Impairment Table and 10 points under another Impairment Table. The person has a severe impairment. Example 2: A person’s impairment is of 40 points under the Impairment Tables, made up of 20 points under one Impairment Table and 20 points under another Impairment Table. The person has a severe impairment. Example 3: A person’s impairment is of 20 points under the Impairment Tables, made up of 10 points each under 2 separate Impairment Tables. The person does not have a severe impairment. www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2017C00142
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Post by Banjo on May 5, 2017 17:41:42 GMT 7
Nomadic, do you get rent assistance? It sounds like your living like a king. I reckon there's thousands of dsp's that are too scared to put their livelihood on the line. edit: of course you don't pay enough rent to qualify for rent assistance. Pensioners living overseas only receive the basic payment.
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Post by nomadic on May 5, 2017 19:28:06 GMT 7
No bagholder, no rent assistance and I do not live like a king either. For 17 years i lived in a box with a fan until 12 months ago when I moved into a bigger box with 2 fans. Actually built another smaller room onto it also. So now in the mansion compared to the previous box. But all far better than homeless in OZ which i nearly was until i won UP. I started work in the early 70's on $29.00 a week so you can imagine if someone was on $400.00 then. Well that is now similar in Thailand where locals get maybe $70.00 a week and I get $400.00. All in context.
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Post by remus on May 7, 2017 10:05:31 GMT 7
I've been in touch with my Psychologist and he says he's retiring in two weeks, and that yes i do indeed need to speak to a clinical Psychologist, he's a General Psychologist. He's going to have a look around and see if he can find one for me. I have yet to talk to my GP about it. I'll make an appointment to see him tomorrow.
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Post by remus on May 9, 2017 12:14:05 GMT 7
Appointment made with my GP for a chat. The GP I had back in 2011 has retired, so I'll have to see what the new Dr thinks.
Is there a Free Legal Aid service I could approach for advice ? I'm located in Logan City QLD.
Cheers.
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Post by murphy on May 9, 2017 12:21:45 GMT 7
Call Basic Rights in Qld. They're in West End.
Contact
To be able to give you advice, we need to speak with you. We will call you back.
Telephone Advice Line Between 9.30am and 4.00pm weekdays 07 3847 5532 1800 358 511 (freecall)
We will take your details and call back at the next available opportunity.
Administration Line Between 9.00am and 5.00pm weekdays 07 3421 2510
Fax 07 3421 2500
Postal PO Box 293 Fortitude Valley Qld 4006
Email brq@brq.org.au
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Post by remus on May 17, 2017 17:36:34 GMT 7
Update. I spoke to my GP about it yesterday and he had never heard of UP.
He said to bring in the paper work and he'd go through it with me.
I got a call from basic rights QLD today. Highlight of the conversation was this. They say that if I claim for UP I will also be reviewed for DSP. AND that because I've not undertaken regular therapy for my mental illness DESPITE the reasons, I will lose my DSP during review because I've not kept up with regular therapy.
Apparently CL is very strict about mental illness DSP customer's keeping up with treatment.
The person I spoke to at Basic Rights QLD over the phone said its a high risk I would lose my DSP.
Not sure what to do now.
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Post by tasjo on May 17, 2017 18:06:02 GMT 7
My suggestion would be to get a Mental Health Plan in place before you apply for UP... I think it is sometimes called a Better Health Plan?
It gives you up to 10 visits a year to a mental health practitioner. Attend at least a couple of appointments before you request anything of clink.
My advice would also be to use a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist so that Clink cannot claim you are not appropriately diagnosed by seeing a registered psychologist.
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Post by Denis-NFA on May 18, 2017 8:13:43 GMT 7
My suggestion would be to get a Mental Health Plan in place before you apply for UP... I think it is sometimes called a Better Health Plan? It gives you up to 10 visits a year to a mental health practitioner. Attend at least a couple of appointments before you request anything of clink. My advice would also be to use a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist so that Clink cannot claim you are not appropriately diagnosed by seeing a registered psychologist. And further to tasjo's advice I would suggest you actually use all 10 visits so you don't end up caught out by the not fully treated nor diagosed provisions.
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Post by remus on May 18, 2017 10:34:59 GMT 7
My suggestion would be to get a Mental Health Plan in place before you apply for UP... I think it is sometimes called a Better Health Plan? It gives you up to 10 visits a year to a mental health practitioner. Attend at least a couple of appointments before you request anything of clink. My advice would also be to use a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist so that Clink cannot claim you are not appropriately diagnosed by seeing a registered psychologist. And further to tasjo 's advice I would suggest you actually use all 10 visits so you don't end up caught out by the not fully treated nor diagosed provisions. Thanks for the great suggestions.
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