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Post by Banjo on Nov 19, 2017 16:05:11 GMT 7
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Post by mspurple on Nov 19, 2017 18:48:42 GMT 7
When I had my AAT hearing, the member actually asked me if I had accessed the NDIS.
I didn't know why she asked me that.
I thought that you had to have DSP to access NDIS.
I told the member that I thought you already had to have DSP or use other recognised specialist schools or services that need government approval for funding, and I said that there was not much that I knew about it.
I have often wondered if there would have been any difference to my centrelink claim if I had of applied for the NDIS.
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Post by nomadic on Nov 19, 2017 19:05:20 GMT 7
I had an idea today that I would attempt to do if I was in Oz. I would love to start a project by contacting major hospitals and to meet people immediately they have severe health problems like brain injury, paraplegics etc etc and follow them for a year or so incognito of course and document how they were treated by clink. Were they immediately put on dsp or did they have to fight for a year or more. Would prove once and for all if these days no one is put on dsp immediately no matter how badly disabled they are. I remember the outpouring of grief in the tabloid media when a young girl suffered a brain injury after being hit by a car on a pedestrian crossing in Epping in Melbourne. I'd love to know how it all ended up years later. It really needs an investigative journo to do it.
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Post by tasjo on Nov 20, 2017 5:51:45 GMT 7
When I had my AAT hearing, the member actually asked me if I had accessed the NDIS. I didn't know why she asked me that. I thought that you had to have DSP to access NDIS. I told the member that I thought you already had to have DSP or use other recognised specialist schools or services that need government approval for funding, and I said that there was not much that I knew about it. I have often wondered if there would have been any difference to my centrelink claim if I had of applied for the NDIS. I believe it does make a difference but the issue at the moment is that not all areas or ages are currently eligible. But if NDIS is available I would definitely be applying either before or during any DSP application. I would imagine it's a bit like carers and TPD though and the JCA would most likely fall back on the 'different criteria' reasoning if they wanted to. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 7:49:01 GMT 7
Good Find
Plus good idea
Try to beat Clink at there own game
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Post by mspurple on Nov 20, 2017 9:18:01 GMT 7
When I had my AAT hearing, the member actually asked me if I had accessed the NDIS. I didn't know why she asked me that. I thought that you had to have DSP to access NDIS. I told the member that I thought you already had to have DSP or use other recognised specialist schools or services that need government approval for funding, and I said that there was not much that I knew about it. I have often wondered if there would have been any difference to my centrelink claim if I had of applied for the NDIS. I believe it does make a difference but the issue at the moment is that not all areas or ages are currently eligible. But if NDIS is available I would definitely be applying either before or during any DSP application. I would imagine it's a bit like carers and TPD though and the JCA would most likely fall back on the 'different criteria' reasoning if they wanted to. Yeah NDIS is not available yet for my adopted brother who is currently under NDIA. He lives in a busy area in Melbourne where there are an awful lot of people with disabilities. It will be rolled out in his area sometime next year. I believe from what we have been told, that he will loose a fair whack of the services he is currently getting under NDIA. It is of quite a concern, as they have not been able to tell us exactly what he will have funding for and what he will loose. At the moment he has already lost over half of his funded hours of outreach carers. I think that he gets one of the highest funding packages currently available, and to see what he has already lost access to as they are starting to get ready for NDIS, is leaving a significant amount of concern about the assistance he will get to live independently. From what I have been told, there will not be as much funding for mental health issues which is a worry, as some of the mental health support will simply not be available unless paid for privately. A friend of mine who lives in the same area as my brother, has already been told by two of her mental health workers that they are not going to be able to work with her next year unless she can afford to see them independently. She also said that her case worker has told her that a fair amount of her funding for psychiatry will no longer be available for her next year as the way the funding is set out and allocated will be worked out and implemented under different rules and criteria than how they work it out for NDIA. She said that the same amount of funding is available to her, but the way it will be used will change, and from what she has been told, a lot of the allocated funding will be pretty much unusable for her even though it is there. I believe for the area I live in they are looking at sometime in 2019 for it to be introduced. As I have previously stated, I don't know a great deal about the NDIS or the NDIA. I think that maybe I should read up on it to see exactly what things it can be used for and how it may be of help for me. I really have very little understanding of how any of it works. |
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Post by nomadic on Nov 20, 2017 11:38:42 GMT 7
Join the club bfbf. I'm just lucky on UP that i have no need for it. I sympathize with those who are getting a bad deal from it though. Seems like we were told a few years ago now that it would be the best thing since sliced bread. Alas, years on the old political games deny many of those it was meant for.
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Post by jr on Nov 20, 2017 19:54:44 GMT 7
I’ve heard of someone having an NDIS package but repeatedly being knocked back for dsp. It’s terrible.
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Post by jr on Nov 20, 2017 19:59:27 GMT 7
In saying that though, it makes sense that this would help with a dsp application and worth doing.
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Post by Banjo on Nov 21, 2017 6:10:46 GMT 7
I would point out that it would never be some way of bypassing the assessment tables, my assumption would be that any assistance would be along the lines of support, advice regarding medical practitioners etc.
As we've seen here too many times, some people just wont qualify and are plunged into that dreadful limbo of a life time of the dole and/or a bit of very painful part time work.
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Post by nomadic on Nov 21, 2017 6:29:13 GMT 7
it again defies belief. Get DSP but not U.P. Get NDIS but not DSP. In a transparent system they must go together. Just like corruption goes together with a Royal Commission. In Australia at least. Maybe they should change the name. Burma and Kampuchea are available.
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