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Post by seajae on Oct 25, 2013 8:40:10 GMT 7
wow, they are smart buggers arent they, they said to get portability I had to undergo another assessment and that seeing I was rated high in 2007 and my discs are deteriorating I would not have a problem. This is why I was shocked with the new assessment, seems it was all just to remove me from the system but I refused to go quietly.
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Post by anotherdsp on Oct 25, 2013 13:16:54 GMT 7
to seajae,oh so you applied for u/p? in that case it is under the new tables!! if you didnt apply for u/p then they where wrong in assessing you under the new tables,i have been there an done that with them!
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Post by seajae on Oct 26, 2013 9:23:34 GMT 7
Had no choice, my dsp was stopped because I was overseas and I was told that for it to continue I had to apply for the dsp again so it was under the new tables.
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Post by highlander4000 on Jul 11, 2014 23:11:23 GMT 7
www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/AATA/2014/149.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=indefinite%20portabilityIn the impairment tables, there are 6 categories, a,b,c,d,e,f and they say at the top of the table that you have to fit MOST of the categories. Is that 4 or 5?. They arent clear, obviously its not 3 but if you get 4, you could say that it MOST, but they could say, we think 5 is MOST, so we arent giving you the DSP. Then you could argue back, "if you think 5 is MOST, then why didnt you say 5, instead of MOST!!". This lack of definition means you cant argue your case for your level of disability very strongly if you are at a tribunal or something. In order for Mr Joseph to meet the ‘severe’ rating under Table 5, he has to experience severe difficulties with most of the following: There is a severe functional impact on activities involving mental health function. (1) The person has severe difficulties with most of the following: (a) self care and independent living; Example: The person needs regular support to live independently, that is, needs visits or assistance at least twice a week from a family member, friend, health worker or support worker. (b) social/recreational activities and travel; Example: The person travels alone only in familiar areas (such as the local shops or other familiar venues). (c) interpersonal relationships; Example 1: The person has very limited social contacts and involvement unless these are organised for the person. Example 2: The person often has difficulty interacting with other people and may need assistance or support from a companion to engage in social interactions. (d) concentration and task completion; Example 1: The person has difficulty concentrating on any task or conversation for more than 10 minutes. Example 2: The person has slowed movements or reaction time due to psychiatric illness or treatment effects. (e) behaviour, planning and decision-making; Example: The person’s behaviour, thoughts and conversation are significantly and frequently disturbed. (f) work/training capacity. Example: The person is unable to attend work, education or training on a regular basis over a lengthy period due to ongoing mental illness.
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Post by immiadvice on Jul 12, 2014 1:24:29 GMT 7
Centrelink law generally has vague interpretations. That way they can adjust their decisions to suit their policy of the day.
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Post by scallywag on Jul 12, 2014 5:52:51 GMT 7
www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/AATA/2014/149.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=indefinite%20portabilityIn the impairment tables, there are 6 categories, a,b,c,d,e,f and they say at the top of the table that you have to fit MOST of the categories. Is that 4 or 5?. They arent clear, obviously its not 3 but if you get 4, you could say that it MOST, but they could say, we think 5 is MOST, so we arent giving you the DSP. Then you could argue back, "if you think 5 is MOST, then why didnt you say 5, instead of MOST!!". This lack of definition means you cant argue your case for your level of disability very strongly if you are at a tribunal or something. In order for Mr Joseph to meet the ‘severe’ rating under Table 5, he has to experience severe difficulties with most of the following: There is a severe functional impact on activities involving mental health function. (1) The person has severe difficulties with most of the following: (a) self care and independent living; Example: The person needs regular support to live independently, that is, needs visits or assistance at least twice a week from a family member, friend, health worker or support worker. (b) social/recreational activities and travel; Example: The person travels alone only in familiar areas (such as the local shops or other familiar venues). (c) interpersonal relationships; Example 1: The person has very limited social contacts and involvement unless these are organised for the person. Example 2: The person often has difficulty interacting with other people and may need assistance or support from a companion to engage in social interactions. (d) concentration and task completion; Example 1: The person has difficulty concentrating on any task or conversation for more than 10 minutes. Example 2: The person has slowed movements or reaction time due to psychiatric illness or treatment effects. (e) behaviour, planning and decision-making; Example: The person’s behaviour, thoughts and conversation are significantly and frequently disturbed. (f) work/training capacity. Example: The person is unable to attend work, education or training on a regular basis over a lengthy period due to ongoing mental illness. I think in this case most means most , in the lower limb table they say ANY and and that means ALL. The problem here is they can argue weather or not you experience SEVERE difficulties with most of the following. Good luck.
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Post by tablet on Jul 12, 2014 15:30:03 GMT 7
Note 1: For the purpose of applying the Tables, most means more than 50%. For instance: if there are 3 examples in the descriptor, most means 2; if there are 4 examples, most means 3; if there are 6, most means 4 etc.
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Post by fonze on Aug 5, 2014 22:04:33 GMT 7
I had to swap doctors, my gp contracted crones disease and was away from clinic more than he was there, I decided to build a relationship with another doctor, in the same clinic I have been going to this clinic for over 10 years and they have all of my records, xrays etc filed. This doc is really helpfull, he hadnt had any experience with dsp so I gave him the tables and assesment guide, after studying tables and guide he proceeded to draft a letter. I guess what I am saying is I opted for continuity, so I stay at clinic and pick a good doc and if it works will be a great decision, thats my 20 bahts worth
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Post by Denis-NFA on Aug 6, 2014 6:50:26 GMT 7
I had to swap doctors, my gp contracted crones disease and was away from clinic more than he was there, I decided to build a relationship with another doctor, in the same clinic I have been going to this clinic for over 10 years and they have all of my records, xrays etc filed. This doc is really helpfull, he hadnt had any experience with dsp so I gave him the tables and assesment guide, after studying tables and guide he proceeded to draft a letter. I guess what I am saying is I opted for continuity, so I stay at clinic and pick a good doc and if it works will be a great decision, thats my 20 bahts worth All the best to you fonze. I hope it all works out for you.
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Post by mmett on Nov 26, 2014 14:29:49 GMT 7
I had to swap doctors, my gp contracted crones disease and was away from clinic more than he was there, I decided to build a relationship with another doctor, in the same clinic I have been going to this clinic for over 10 years and they have all of my records, xrays etc filed. This doc is really helpfull, he hadnt had any experience with dsp so I gave him the tables and assesment guide, after studying tables and guide he proceeded to draft a letter. I guess what I am saying is I opted for continuity, so I stay at clinic and pick a good doc and if it works will be a great decision, thats my 20 bahts worth All the best to you fonze. I hope it all works out for you.
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Post by mmett on Nov 26, 2014 14:31:27 GMT 7
Can someone paste the latest up to date impairment tables please?
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Post by Banjo on Nov 26, 2014 15:03:03 GMT 7
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Post by mmett on Nov 26, 2014 15:09:51 GMT 7
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Post by mmett on Nov 26, 2014 15:12:13 GMT 7
Thanks banjo,yeah you're right it hasnt changed just wanted make sure if there is a reviewed one. Regards
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Post by exiledinaustralia on Mar 4, 2015 19:30:47 GMT 7
Excuse my poor eyesight but where do I locate the impairment chart? I have tried every link on this page and I have also done a Google search and nothing materialized. I have an eyesight problem that can only be cured with an optical operation, I wear hearing aids and I have a psychiatric condition. How do I gauge I am eligible for unlimited portability with my disabilities, or should I apply for U.P through my G.P. I am terribly frustrated with my situation, I would be more than content to volunteer teach oversees for a few months. I am more valued oversees in a developing country as a teacher than I am here. I feel like my life in Oz is going no where. Sound advice is appreciated, thanks in advance.
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