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Post by cripple on Aug 23, 2018 12:25:25 GMT 7
Im sure my doctor will help but im worried because I was one of the " THROW ONS " they dont chuck people on DSP like they used to
How ever im willing to risk it all to get my portability
My questions is what do i gota do ?
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Post by anthonydsp on Aug 23, 2018 16:24:34 GMT 7
Hi you have to call international services and ask them to send you the paperwork for unlimited portability then you will go for a jca assesment which hopefully they will say you have 20points in one table to qualify for unlimited portability make sure you have all of your drs and specialiat reports to support your application but also be aware that you can lose your dsp pension and put on newstart i wish you goodluck i applied for mine in 2013 and was granted unlimited portability and im currently in philippines for 5 years now so good luck and keep us posted
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:15:39 GMT 7
cripple great advise from anthonydsp but if you don't know what's on your file; as in points and how disabled they say you are, apply for your file under FOI(freedom of information) It can all be done online, takes about a month and is free to get a copy. This will tell you how many points you have, under which tables and may help significantly with a strategy between you and your doctor. It is also a pain free easy exercise; hard to believe I know, but it is! Submit your requestYou can submit your request by post, email or at one of our offices. Your request must: be in writing state that the request is an application for the purposes of the FOI Act provide information about the documents to assist us to process your request provide an address for reply If you ask a third party to make an FOI request on your behalf, you need to provide a specific, written authority to send copies of documents to you care of that person, or to allow that person to inspect copies of documents containing information about you. You can provide an authority for another person to have access to your information by signing the relevant section of the FOI Application form. FOI Application formAn FOI request must be made in writing; however, it is not mandatory to submit a request using the FOI application form. Centrelink, Medicare and Child Support programs: Department of Human Services PO Box 7820 Canberra BC ACT 2610 Email: freedomofinformation@humanservices.gov.au The other thing is to have current up to date medical evidence and preferably an ongoing continuous medical history. Take it slowly, think it through....you waited this long so you want to give it your best shot! All the best for a positive outcome in this endeavour, cheer bear P.S. I was also one of Howard's thow ons cripple and if I'd have gotten my file instead of procastinating; it would have given me the confidence to apply five years ago, instead of waiting for OAP to get UP.
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Post by cripple on Aug 31, 2018 15:14:01 GMT 7
Thanks bear May i ask what is a ( OAP to get UP ) ? . So you got your file before applied right ? Thanks anthonydsp May i ask where can I learn about the 20 points on one table ? I will take your advise bear and take it slow, my Doctors are on my side, the only problem is I only see my Doctor once every few years when I get a review, I remember seeing the my centerlink form one time when the centerlink officer walked out briefly and he left his paper work on the desk , so I quickly spun it around and had a quick look and it read ( cripple is likely to remain legally incapacitated indefinitely ) . So I am thinking its a good sign and I got a good chance . My Doctor agreed to help me out and " wrote me off " well , My doctor did a good job . I dont like saying i am disabled but lets say for the record that I am a bit stressed and had a hard upbringing to say the least .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 16:26:24 GMT 7
G'day cripple OAP is Old Aged Pension. Once you are granted this you are given UP automatically. All aged pensioners have UP! After I was granted I applied for my file, because prior to that I had cancelled a DSP/UP application as I didn't have the self confidence to see it through and I was curious to see how I would have gone. I probably would have gotten it!
This link will tell you about the impairment tables in part 3, just scroll down. Below is Table 4 Spinal Function and explains what you must be able to prove and how. It is the actual legislation and although DHS/Centrelink goes on the same tables their desciptors are written somewhat differently. Let me know if you want to see that! They talk about having the majority of descriptors. i.e. If there are four, you must meet three; if there are six, you must meet four etc, and/or this or that to meet the points. Mate I hope this helps, and we are here everday. All the best with it all, cheers bear
www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2011L02716/Html/Text#_Toc310259532
Table 4 – Spinal Function
Introduction to Table 4
· Table 4 is to be used where the person has a permanent condition resulting in functional impairment when performing activities involving spinal function, that is, bending or turning the back, trunk or neck.
· The diagnosis of the condition must be made by an appropriately qualified medical practitioner.
· Self-report of symptoms alone is insufficient.
· There must be corroborating evidence of the person’s impairment.
· Examples of corroborating evidence for the purpose of this Table include, but are not limited to, the following:
a report from the person’s treating doctor; a report from a medical specialist confirming diagnosis of conditions commonly associated with spinal function impairment (e.g. spinal cord injury, spinal stenosis, cervical spondylosis, lumbar radiculopathy, herniated or ruptured disc, spinal cord tumours, arthritis or osteoporosis involving the spine); a report from a physiotherapist or other rehabilitation practitioner confirming loss of range of movement in the spine or other effects of spinal disease or injury. · In using Table 4, descriptors are to be met only from spinal conditions. Restrictions on overhead tasks resulting from shoulder conditions should be rated under Table 2.
Points 0-30
Descriptors
0 points
There is no functional impact on activities involving spinal function.
(1) The person can:
(a) bend down to pick a light object off the floor (e.g. a piece of paper); and (b) turn their trunk from side to side; and (c) turn their head to look to the sides or upwards.
5 points
There is a mild functional impact on activities involving spinal function.
(1) The person has some difficulty in:
(a) activities over head height (e.g. activities requiring the person to look upwards); or (b) bending to knee level and straightening up again without difficulty; or (c) turning their trunk or moving their head (e.g. to look to the sides or upwards).
10 points There is a moderate functional impact on activities involving spinal function. (1) The person is able to sit in or drive a car for at least 30 minutes, and at least one of the following applies:
(a) the person is unable to sustain overhead activities (e.g. accessing items over head height); or (b) the person has difficulty moving their head to look in all directions (e.g. turning their head to look over their shoulder); or (c) the person is unable to bend forward to pick up a light object placed at knee height; or (d) the person needs assistance to get up out of a chair (if not independently mobile in a wheelchair).
20 points
There is a severe functional impact on activities involving spinal function.
(1) The person is unable to:
(a) perform any overhead activities; or (b) turn their head, or bend their neck, without moving their trunk; or (c) bend forward to pick up a light object from a desk or table; or (d) remain seated for at least 10 minutes.
30 points
There is an extreme functional impact on activities involving spinal function.
(1) The person is:
(a) completely unable to perform activities involving spinal function; or (b) unable to bend or turn their trunk or their neck to complete the most basic of daily activities (e.g. dressing, bathing, showering or light housework).
P.S. From what you seen on your form it should be a lay down Misere; but best to cover your bases.
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Post by nomadic on Aug 31, 2018 18:47:14 GMT 7
cripple, it took me 15 years before i could say i was disabled. It seems that no one likes the term. I once told my lawyer i don't consider myself disabled. He said to me "never ever say that again". In regards to all things Centrelink you are the most disabled person ever as that's all they understand. Like myself pride doesn't come into it where they are concerned.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Aug 31, 2018 20:18:26 GMT 7
G'day cripple OAP is Old Aged Pension. Once you are granted this you are given UP automatically. Sorry bear but the conjunction of words made me smile.
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Post by cripple on Aug 31, 2018 20:50:02 GMT 7
Thanks again friends. I think I’m good for table 6. Drug and alcohol damage But how many points all up ? I can get documents from my GP and referered mental health GP to cover the descriptors good
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 5:43:43 GMT 7
Thanks again friends. I think I’m good for table 6. Drug and alcohol damage But how many points all up ? I can get documents from my GP and referered mental health GP to cover the descriptors good cripple they have/or are trying to, not sure if they achieved it yet; but they want to cancel table 6, so that people with drug and alcohol problems are auto rejected and sent to rehab. Just a word of warning there! I wouldn't rock the boat, especially if you haven't had a review under the New Tables. If you are serious about the study, that might be a less stressful way to get overseas for a bit. Cheers bear
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