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Post by palomino on Oct 15, 2018 17:36:41 GMT 7
Hello all, I have been lurking for a little while and decided to join to contribute my experiences in the fight against the 'almighty CL'. I applied for dsp 4 months ago and thought I could do this on my own, how wrong I was. Last week I received a message from my Dr to see her asap as she was contacted by DHS regarding my application, she said they 'interrogated' her for half an hour. Today I received the dreaded rejection letter. Let the war begin....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 18:15:36 GMT 7
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Post by muggins on Oct 15, 2018 19:15:42 GMT 7
Last week I received a message from my Dr to see her asap as she was contacted by DHS regarding my application, she said they 'interrogated' her for half an hour. Today I received the dreaded rejection letter. Let the war begin....
It makes me wonder why the AMA doesn't speak up for their members about this. It must happen a lot in this current dsp reduction era. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 20:02:55 GMT 7
palomino I've done a back flip on the timing of the process! As you have 13 weeks grace to ask for the ARO review without losing your spot of being backpayed to your original application date; by getting your file first you could have some good arguments in place when you get around to asking for it, especially if you share it with your doctors. Cheers bear
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Post by cripple on Oct 16, 2018 2:50:34 GMT 7
You need the impairment tables ??
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Post by tasjo on Oct 16, 2018 4:12:59 GMT 7
Palomino - I agree with bear, get your file through freedom of information first before requesting a review.
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Post by tasjo on Oct 16, 2018 4:15:04 GMT 7
I have a couple of other suggestions as well, I'll be back a bit later today
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Post by mspurple on Oct 16, 2018 5:08:13 GMT 7
Welcome palomino. My Dr. is lucky his receptionists are like security guards......they refused to put the call from clink through, said the Dr. is too busy with important things to be taking calls from clink to question his clearly written reports. I know this because centrelink complained to me about it, lol. |
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Post by tasjo on Oct 16, 2018 6:14:10 GMT 7
Another thing to do is request welfare rights to submit your request for a review (welfare rights are usually at the community legal centres). This helps because they then have a record of what you have requested and can sometimes also help with templates and things to assist your application. I did this with my 2nd application and it also made a difference when Centrelink claimed to have not received key documents.
Also check if you have any disability advocacy groups in your area... Often they can help once an application gets beyond the initial Centrelink review.
Your local federal mp can also help chase things up once you request a review - they can't change the outcome or advise on whether you are likely to get accepted but they can chase up for you and it can save you a lot of frustration and time on the phone to Centrelink.
If you have a carer then it can also be worth requesting the information provided for your carers claim - you will need the approval of your carer to get this. While carers payment has a different criteria to DSP it can be helpful to use the individual parts to support your DSP claim. Some of the criteria match with the impairment tables.
If you are claiming for a mental health impairment you must be diagnosed by either a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist. If you don't then Centrelink will not apply any impairment points for it.
Once you have details of how many impairment points you were given and on which tables also check if there are other criteria you need to address (or program of support)
Don't lose heart of the ARO review comes back confirming the rejection. It's the first step in the appeal and is internal... Once it moves to the next step the AAT is independent.
Hope this doesn't confuse more than help, was just thinking of the things I wish I had known when my claim was first refused. Some time at the start getting things in order can save a lot of stress and time down the track.
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Post by nomadic on Oct 16, 2018 7:04:09 GMT 7
Welcome palamino. I can add nothing from what the more learned here have advised. Only i like your comment "Let the fight begin" There was recently a case of a quadraplejic being denied DSP so it seems everyone, 100% have to fight these days also. I am sure many don't bother as they trust the system. That is why they do it. Who would have believed that Australian politicians are now identical to Hitler in their hatred of anyone who is not "THEIR" perfect person.
Every * = a bad word as follows. No one * hates these * more than me They are the worst * form of human being in * history. I continue to get angrier every time there is another new story. I hope to talk to a politician or two in next week so will try and tell them your case also. So please keep your eye on the messages as i may message you. Where are you? OK, fight them with all you have is the only way we can beat these * * * * *
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 7:32:06 GMT 7
You need the impairment tables ?? has made what is possibly the most important advise of all palomino . The impairment tables and the rules on how your doctors are meant to apply them for you to get maximum value. Below are the necessary links. DSP Impairment Tables:- www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2011L02716Guidelines on how to apply them:- guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/3/6/3guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/3/6/3/05Pick out the tables that apply and take all sets of documents with you to your medical professionals for their take on your chances of getting your DSP. While there get your information updated to current status. It really is a legal minefield and we are in a war! The simple reason you were denied, may be because of the way your doctor addressed your issues. As an aside:- Check with your doctors first but; if if they're agreeable to go in to bat at an AAT (administative appeals tribunal) hearing for you, the next step up from ARO review; that may just be enough leverage to win at ARO level if you make the ARO aware of that. From memory; somewhere in the links provided, I'm 99.99% sure your doctor can claim redress for any time taken in relation to the claim. I don't think many know of this! Try not to be overwhelmed by the advice coming from all directions; I can assure you it is all relevant! Take your time letting it all sink in but; don't forget the 13 week deadline. Cheers bear |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 9:23:43 GMT 7
l was rejected twice and had to fight for 3 years to get my DSP and that was back in 2006 when it was a lot easier to get then now when 70% of people get rejected these days, something like 200,000 disabled people are on newstart
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Post by nomadic on Oct 16, 2018 9:25:41 GMT 7
yes wombat79 as i said ******
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 12:27:42 GMT 7
"If you are claiming for a mental health impairment you must be diagnosed by either a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist. If you don't then Centrelink will not apply any impairment points for it Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/post/new/5839#ixzz5U4KtxPeqWhat if your GP diagnosed a psyscological illness when you got your DSP pre 2012 , does that mean your DSP is invalid even though you still receiving it? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 14:01:11 GMT 7
"If you are claiming for a mental health impairment you must be diagnosed by either a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist. If you don't then Centrelink will not apply any impairment points for it Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/post/new/5839#ixzz5U4KtxPeqWhat if your GP diagnosed a psyscological illness when you got your DSP pre 2012 , does that mean your DSP is invalid even though you still receiving it? @wombat79 I'd like to think all GP's with mental health patients would have over the years referred their patients to the relevant medicos. Mine has; twice. If yours hasn't, pray you don't get reviewed. Cheers bear |
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