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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 14:56:19 GMT 7
"I'd like to think all GP's with mental health patients would have over the years referred their patients to the relevant medicos. Mine has; twice. If yours hasn't, pray you don't get reviewed. Cheers bear"
IF you got reviewed couldn't you just see a clinical psychologist and get a report in the 3 weeks you have to get medical evidence?
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Post by mspurple on Oct 16, 2018 15:03:17 GMT 7
Possibly, however it is nearly impossible in most places to get an appointment that fast with one of the clinical psychologists and some of them will require you to have more than one visit before they are willing to write a letter about your problems as in most cases a one off appointment does not tell them enough about you for them to be comfortable documenting evidence that they have not witnessed or known about. It would be a gamble in my opinion.
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Post by muggins on Oct 16, 2018 15:39:39 GMT 7
"I'd like to think all GP's with mental health patients would have over the years referred their patients to the relevant medicos. Mine has; twice. If yours hasn't, pray you don't get reviewed. Cheers bear" IF you got reviewed couldn't you just see a clinical psychologist and get a report in the 3 weeks you have to get medical evidence? Pretty sure the strict 21 day reviews are different from the 3 month? regular reviews from my memory. But I would need to dig it up. If that's the case, you'd have ample time to see your doctor(s).
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Post by palomino on Oct 16, 2018 15:58:34 GMT 7
Thanks everyone for your advice and comments. I have lodged a request for my files starting from when CL transferred me from JA to DES, so now just have to wait. I also got an appointment to speak with a lawyer from legal aid Victoria, and attempting to get in touch with SSRV as well. Looking through the impairment tables, it appears I probably wont make 20 points under one table although not far off, but if they down grade I wont be close enough. I do have multiple conditions and even if points are awarded at the minimum of 5 each, then I should have more than enough to qualify. Will summarize it all a bit later.
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Post by muggins on Oct 16, 2018 16:01:08 GMT 7
Actually I think the 21 day reviews are part of the 90,000 budget measure. Not sure how many reviews have been completed out of the 90,000 but it was supposed to be 30,000 per year?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 16:11:42 GMT 7
Possibly, however it is nearly impossible in most places to get an appointment that fast with one of the clinical psychologists and some of them will require you to have more than one visit before they are willing to write a letter about your problems as in most cases a one off appointment does not tell them enough about you for them to be comfortable documenting evidence that they have not witnessed or known about. It would be a gamble in my opinion. @wombat79 I was lucky; if you could call it that; I was hospitalised, diagnosed, treated but hardly stabilized in 1995 by a psychiatrist. I refused medication and was offered the DSP five years later. Two years after that I was reviewed by a Commonwealth Medical Officer, the doctor who does medicals for the Defence Forces, AFP, Federal Public Servants etc. She arranged for a GP at the practice she was operating out of to take me on as a new patient, even though her book was full. I've been with her ever since. In 2012 she came face to face with a psychotic episode and started taking notes. In 2014 with the advent of the 28 day portability she sent me to a psyche for evaluation, along with her notes. Late 2017 she sent me to another because the other one had left the area to keep things up to date. I've had three different diagnosis from the three shrinks; but consistent contact with my GP, who has prescribed an assortment of medication causing various side effects that got so bad I was diagnosed with a nuerological disorder by a nuerologist which thankfully was a side effect from brain overload from haloperidol. That was in 2016! However twenty three years later from my onset, I am on a maintainence dose to be taken when required. Consistency of contact with your doctors is a key ingredient to keeping Centrelink at bay; as they have all of your visit dates and prescription meds from the pharmacy to hand from your Medicare file. Not scaremongering mate, just saying and telling it how it is. Cheers bear P.S. In hindsight I would have been a shoe-in for UP in 2014! That's the problem though with mental illness, not only is it very debilitating, but it also saps belief in yourself, and your self worth, things JCA's and Centrelink decision maker's either can't, won't or simply choose to ignore because they have no idea what it's like to be confronted by a major full blown psychotic episode and choose to think you are putting it on. Rant over, maintenance dose tonight for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 16:21:02 GMT 7
Actually I think the 21 day reviews are part of the 90,000 budget measure. Not sure how many reviews have been completed out of the 90,000 but it was supposed to be 30,000 per year? l think they finished all those 90,ooo reviews ,or almost finished , lucky l wasn't chosen, l think l read they might have stopped those reviews early because almost everyone passed and it was a waste of money
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 16:36:10 GMT 7
"If you are claiming for a mental health impairment you must be diagnosed by either a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist. If you don't then Centrelink will not apply any impairment points for it Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/post/new/5839#ixzz5U4KtxPeqWhat if your GP diagnosed a psyscological illness when you got your DSP pre 2012 , does that mean your DSP is invalid even though you still receiving it? I don't think GP's are qualified to diagnose mental illnesses even back then. Had to be clinical psychologist or psychiatrist.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 16:43:07 GMT 7
Hello all, I have been lurking for a little while and decided to join to contribute my experiences in the fight against the 'almighty CL'. I applied for dsp 4 months ago and thought I could do this on my own, how wrong I was. Last week I received a message from my Dr to see her asap as she was contacted by DHS regarding my application, she said they 'interrogated' her for half an hour. Today I received the dreaded rejection letter. Let the war begin....
Good luck in this battle mate. Many of us have had to endure the battle with bureaucracy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 8:35:59 GMT 7
Someone told me years ago that actually getting the DSP is very difficult but once you actually get it , its hard for the government to ever take it away from you, but l don't know how true that is these days, but from what l read almost everyone who has the DSP and gets reviwed maybe 90% passes the reviews compared to 70% who apply for the DSP getting rejected . l think the governments mostly been targeting under 35's to kick off the pension, maybe us older people are fairly safe, especaully now the liberal government will be gone soon, looked forward to Prime Minister Moronison being defeated in Wentworth
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 10:00:26 GMT 7
Never take being on DSP for granted. Don't use statistics to get complacent. They can review anyone. The rejection rate is mostly to do with application changes and them probably being told to adhere to certain things.
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Post by mikey on Oct 17, 2018 13:57:19 GMT 7
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Post by mikey on Oct 17, 2018 14:19:50 GMT 7
and reading latest AAT appeal cases, this case was decided on 12th October 2018. That's 2 and a half years!
On 9 March 2016, the Applicant lodged a claim for Disability Support Pension (“DSP”).[1] On 28 October 2016, an Authorised Review Officer (“ARO”) of the Department of Human Services, Centrelink (“the Department”), decided that the Applicant did not have an impairment rating of 20 points or more.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 14:39:56 GMT 7
What makes me angry is once you get the DSP they can then rewrite the rules so you are no longer eligible, which means even though theres been no improvement in your disability or its even worse you can still lose your DSP if you get reviewed. As someone said the polticans can write legistaltion to say you are cured , what the doctors say don't matter to the polticans. l have had the DSP for ten years and never been reviewed , have l just been lucky or is ten years normal or maybe they think l'm not worth reviewing, l also wonder if people who live in the bush hours from a capital city are less likely to be reviewed then people in cities where theres jobs and training and facilities
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 15:07:12 GMT 7
What makes me angry is once you get the DSP they can then rewrite the rules so you are no longer eligible, which means even though theres been no improvement in your disability or its even worse you can still lose your DSP if you get reviewed. As someone said the polticans can write legistaltion to say you are cured , what the doctors say don't matter to the polticans. l have had the DSP for ten years and never been reviewed , have l just been lucky or is ten years normal or maybe they think l'm not worth reviewing, l also wonder if people who live in the bush hours from a capital city are less likely to be reviewed then people in cities where theres jobs and training and facilitiesYes @wombat79 rewriting the rules is hardly cricket, I agree 100%, and you're more than likely on the money regarding not being reviewed, as my review in late 2002 was the only one I had. Sixteen years without one, or any Centrelink initiated interaction! I did however live in the bush as you have described but; the CMO told me, "If you're not reviewed within two year, consider yourself in early retirement." Back in those days though everyone was going to be superannuation rich and retire at fifty-five anyway. What a con that idea was in hindsight. Cheers bear
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