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Post by nomadic on Jan 2, 2019 18:21:40 GMT 7
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jan 12, 2019 13:54:24 GMT 7
nomadicThere is a procedure to apply for an Act of Grace. I don't think it is the 'last' thing you do but I think it is the 'first' thing you do.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jan 12, 2019 14:15:54 GMT 7
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Post by nomadic on Jan 12, 2019 16:41:05 GMT 7
I did it years ago denis and was denied on 100% provable lies by them. but there is no appeal system. It is really an illegal farce. Welfare rights were involved and told me almost nobody wins.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jan 12, 2019 18:11:51 GMT 7
I did it years ago denis and was denied on 100% provable lies by them. but there is no appeal system. It is really an illegal farce. Welfare rights were involved and told me almost nobody wins. I have no doubt that "they" knocked you back. They have to do that. I am going to us it again. Cheers Denis. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 7:23:26 GMT 7
Denis-NFA, Is this where your link was meant to take us to? From the link address I was expecting a radio podcast. Great clip! Cheers bear
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Post by nomadic on Jan 13, 2019 18:32:30 GMT 7
what do you mean denis? They have to knock you back. Your grammar is a bit  ?? or spelling. |
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jan 13, 2019 21:31:17 GMT 7
what do you mean denis? They have to knock you back. Your grammar is a bit ?? or spelling. Apologies nomadic for my cryptic description/explanation and I'll endeavour to set out my thoughts. As I understood it an Act of Grace determination can/could only be made by the Minister and/or Secretary of the Department. I originally applied for a grant of Unlimited Portability as an Act of Grace to the Minister in 2011 and subsequently received a call from The Minister's Office explaining that she could not grant it. The person who called me was actually a really nice person and explained that she could delete my request or have it entered onto my C/Link record and which did I prefer. I chose to have my request and details entered onto my C/Link record and thought nothing more of it until I formally applied for UP in 2013. I believe that my JCA in April 2013 was supported by me 2011 request under Act of Grace and reflecting on it all afterwards came to the conclusion that the Minister dare not approve an initial application. Too fraught with political implications. But I think my original application actually helped so that's why I suggested do an Act of Grace request first. They will still make you jump through the hoops but if you set your case up first then you are leading the investigation. Not sure if this makes sense but query me if something doesn't. Cheers Denis |
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Post by nomadic on Jan 14, 2019 6:49:36 GMT 7
Different from me denis. In one of my AAT hearings, the member told me about Act of grace and said it could apply to me. I was claiming compensation because of Centrelink mistakes. 100% certain then and even more so once lawyer got my file. But my claim was before he got involved. The ministry of finance makes the decision based only on what side of the bed they get out of. They said I was not severely disabled under the rules of the day until 2007 even though I had the stroke in 1996. And as it turned out I was listed manifest since day 1. So they rejected the claim on lies with no appeal avenue. But it still ain't over yet. Watch this space. Act of grace is an illegal system put in place to keep Centrelink staff on their toes only. I will fight for compo until I get it. And C.D.D.A. compensation is also another joke. But I am certain I will get the last laugh after lots of tears.
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Post by nomadic on Jan 14, 2019 11:52:32 GMT 7
I should have added that I want the exposure of the system and all the evil liars in Centrelink and the politicians revealed far more than the money. Alas as always it will be the money that makes people stand up and take notice. Imagine the media if I got the $million I want. Like maggots over a dead rat.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jan 14, 2019 13:26:54 GMT 7
nomadicCertainly not meaning to dismiss your experience and how you have been treated by "the system" over the years. I wouldn't wish what you have experienced on anyone. My thoughts were just a reflection on my part with 20:20 hindsight that my initial fumbling application may have helped me. Mind you I have no idea if that was true or not. And it could have worked against me. I have never asked for my FOI file and perhaps I should do so. Cheers Denis
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 14:16:48 GMT 7
nomadic Certainly not meaning to dismiss your experience and how you have been treated by "the system" over the years. I wouldn't wish what you have experienced on anyone. My thoughts were just a reflection on my part with 20:20 hindsight that my initial fumbling application may have helped me. Mind you I have no idea if that was true or not. And it could have worked against me. I have never asked for my FOI file and perhaps I should do so. Cheers Denis Since you have UP Denis-NFA, you probably have no real need for you file; other than some very interesting reading; I could almost guarantee that! If the thought of applying, waiting and thinking about my impending JCA hadn't overwhelmed me in early 2015; knowing now what I know now after getting mine early last year, I would have been a shoe-in for early UP. I have 30 points for Mental Health alone; and even for allowing a JCA downgrade of 10 points, I would have had twenty on one table. And on appeal, I don't think the AAT would have upheld that. Yes 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing alright. Cheers bear |
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Post by nomadic on Jan 14, 2019 19:33:46 GMT 7
Yeah, "IF" I'd seen a lawyer in 2004 I wouldn't be here now. Glad I didn't. Would still not have been to Perth or W.A.
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?? or spelling.