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Post by paddy on May 11, 2019 15:05:32 GMT 7
Albanese is a joke now. Shorten to his major credit has been finally calling out the Murdoch media for their propaganda. I hope he and Labor do a massive media reform if they win government. Media are the major cause for our issues on social security.
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Post by mulloway on May 11, 2019 15:21:02 GMT 7
Labor my have introduced the new Tables in 2012 but this is because a function-based rather than an illness-based approach is seen as a more accurate way of assessing the magnitude of an individual's disability. Lets not forget that at the same time Labor also introduced Unlimited Portability which has improved the quality of life of many with severe impairments.
As for the LNP it has been a series of relentless and cruel attacks on people on welfare. The reviews, wanting to instantly cancel the DSP if out of the country for more than 28 days, denying Newstart to people under 30, the Drug testing, the list goes on .....
I find the notion of someone on welfare supporting the LNP queer. They might change their minds if they knew what ScoMo, Abbott and Dutton really thought of them. Trust me I know how these men think. They believe people on welfare are "Oxygen thieves" and for the benefit of society they are better off DEAD.
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Post by tasjo on May 11, 2019 17:02:14 GMT 7
Unfortunately some of the policies from both major parties scare the heck out of me, and as mentioned before the whole scenario of a Labour/Green 'alliance' and what that means for significant policies to me is the worst possible outcome. I truly believe that the independents are more of a 'balance' because they are largely focussed on their communities. If the ALP policies being spruked here in Tassie are correct they are so out of touch with the population its scary. Greens candidates are so radical (including the birth certificate fiasco) that they leave very little option here. Certainly at a state level the Liberals have done more to pick Tassie up than any other party in the 15 yrs we have lived here. I am still unsure how I will vote... I don't like any of my options As someone that worked till I could no longer some of the ALP policies (particularly super and the changes to investment properties) have the potential to impact massively, but on the other hand the way people on welfare are treated by LNP is appalling. The tactics of this election campaign have been truly appalling from both the major parties - digging up of social media posts on inactive accounts, mud slinging (on both sides) has just left me utterly disillusioned that either of them have any idea how to actually promote what it is they stand for. If it didn't mean a change to my dual citizenship I'd possibly consider trying to change from within...
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 19:15:53 GMT 7
"scumo is worth 33 million while shorten's net wealth is 61 million" but there are some people like Albanese whose grew up with a mother on the DSP, so guys like him could be on our side, That's wishful thinking wombat, Anthony Albanese net worth is 19 million. They are all filthy rich people pretending to represent the poor & working class. yes even if we had a communist anarchist party l bet the leaders would be millionaires
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Post by ghostbuster on May 11, 2019 19:47:16 GMT 7
I wouldn`t p**s on any of them if they were on fire.
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Post by paddy on May 12, 2019 4:54:07 GMT 7
Labor my have introduced the new Tables in 2012 but this is because a function-based rather than an illness-based approach is seen as a more accurate way of assessing the magnitude of an individual's disability. Lets not forget that at the same time Labor also introduced Unlimited Portability which has improved the quality of life of many with severe impairments. As for the LNP it has been a series of relentless and cruel attacks on people on welfare. The reviews, wanting to instantly cancel the DSP if out of the country for more than 28 days, denying Newstart to people under 30, the Drug testing, the list goes on ..... I find the notion of someone on welfare supporting the LNP queer. They might change their minds if they knew what ScoMo, Abbott and Dutton really thought of them. Trust me I know how these men think. They believe people on welfare are "Oxygen thieves" and for the benefit of society they are better off DEAD. Tables may alone not be the main issue but the PoS and table based implementation to impairments was. To make people have to qualify on one table 20 points just to not have to do PoS when multiple ailments can have the same impact is absurd. PoS requirements are ridiculous anyway.
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Post by nomadic on May 12, 2019 6:44:20 GMT 7
The fact they are putting disabled on the dole for no other reason other than the budget shows just how callous they are and unlikely Labor will reverse it but at least hope with them and no hope Scumo. Just read Abbot likely to lose his seat. That would be great in itself. Howard lost his so can we dream Scumo also? Would not pee on any of them either. An oldie but a goodie just like They are as dumb as dog s**t.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 9:01:22 GMT 7
The fact they are putting disabled on the dole for no other reason other than the budget shows just how callous they are and unlikely Labor will reverse it but at least hope with them and no hope Scumo. Just read Abbot likely to lose his seat. That would be great in itself. Howard lost his so can we dream Scumo also? Would not pee on any of them either. An oldie but a goodie just like They are as dumb as dog s**t. Don't address our PM as ' Scumo" call him by his correct name " Morons'son"
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Post by muggins on May 12, 2019 14:09:28 GMT 7
I'm happy with either wombat. Happy Mothers day to all the mum's out there.
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Post by Denis-NFA on May 12, 2019 23:59:37 GMT 7
for what it's worth!
The bloke that came up with the changed Invalid Pension/DSP Tables that Labor/Greens/LNP cabal voted for was paid in excess of a million$ and got his place in the Daintree.
So called Liberals do what the so called Labor can't do and then they swap it around so that so called Labor does what so called Liberals can't do.
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Post by nomadic on May 13, 2019 6:31:17 GMT 7
I can never remember being more interested in an election than this one. My wish is that the LNP will suffer their worst defeat in history. But I guess that they just lose is the more important thing. I think about the amazing comebacks in English soccer last week and cringe at the thought. But all the signs are good. Even the blue ribbon seat of Kooyong which Andrew silver tailed Peacock held for many years may go to the greens which Frydenberg now holds according to polls. That with Abbot out would be worthy of an extra beer in itself. But if they win the disabled are in for a bad time, even more so than the average Australian. Centrelink will go from Satan link to Nazi link. Ok, let's hope my next Monday rant is with a smiley face and not a growl. Because it will be biggest ever if the crims win.
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Post by nomadic on May 13, 2019 6:57:57 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 7:38:00 GMT 7
for what it's worth! The bloke that came up with the changed Invalid Pension/DSP Tables that Labor/Greens/LNP cabal voted for was paid in excess of a million$ and got his place in the Daintree. So called Liberals do what the so called Labor can't do and then they swap it around so that so called Labor does what so called Liberals can't do. Denis-NFA Truth is not only priceless, but also the mightiest hammer; and anyone who shows even a passing genuine interest in the process knows the swings and roundabout scenario only too well. It's totally unfathomable to me when an election comes around the full blown tribal attitude comes out in the face of all the politicking and lies. "The best of bad bunch"; what is wrong with people? I don't subscribe to eating the least rotten egg, apple or piece of steak; ok maybe the steak; a good wash off, salt it up with plenty of chili and Bob's ya uncle, but choosing a government. A rabble is a rabble is a rabble; out with the old in with some new; Put the Foxes in the Henhouse. That's my strategy this election! Cheers bear
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 9:48:21 GMT 7
I can never remember being more interested in an election than this one. My wish is that the LNP will suffer their worst defeat in history. But I guess that they just lose is the more important thing. I think about the amazing comebacks in English soccer last week and cringe at the thought. But all the signs are good. Even the blue ribbon seat of Kooyong which Andrew silver tailed Peacock held for many years may go to the greens which Frydenberg now holds according to polls. That with Abbot out would be worthy of an extra beer in itself. But if they win the disabled are in for a bad time, even more so than the average Australian. Centrelink will go from Satan link to Nazi link. Ok, let's hope my next Monday rant is with a smiley face and not a growl. Because it will be biggest ever if the crims win. Wealthy Kooyong going to the greens? l guess these days theres a certain group of wealthy voters that find it trendy to have a social conscience for the environment, boat people, gay rights and so on, they probably vote green because they don't support liberals policies on these issues but most don't give a stuff about workers on low wages or the unemployed or people on welfare, for example fighting to stop coal mines is trendy but fighting for the homeless they would probably turn their noses up at . champagne socialists l think they are called
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Post by paddy on May 13, 2019 15:12:01 GMT 7
Today marks 5 years since the worst budget in my time was delivered and being this was before I ever joined here I can say I was extremely pushed into anxiety and depressed, stress because of the DSP changes at the time that affected me but the reassessing under 35s really was the clincher. I consider myself grateful that I passed the review that ensued the year after but it was a reminder that LNP are always the worst option of the two major parties no matter (imo) how bad Labor can get.
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