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Post by nomadic on May 21, 2019 6:47:47 GMT 7
I don't think Lambie is a bad person like Anning etc just a bit of a dipstick. To be pitied a bit even. Lambie is a bad person ,she is a big supporter of the cashless welfare card and she had meetings with twiggy forrest on how to expand it, if it was up to her all us DSP's would be on the welfare apartheid card and our income would be controlled by the private company INDUE that operates the card, they tell us what we are allowed to buy and where we are allowed to shop Sorry wombat79, I didn't know that so I stand to be corrected but it does still mean she is a misguided fool rather than an Anning type racist. She has been brainwashed to think it benefits us unlike many who only want to control us.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 7:06:30 GMT 7
The Facebook rumour mill is on full bore. Just seen on Australian Welfare News page an unsubstantiated report the government are already looking for DVA & OAP volunteers to go on the CDC, and if they don't get the volunteers it'll be onscripts being called up to it.
They don't like being asked for links! "A friend who works at Parliament House sed."
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Post by nomadic on May 21, 2019 7:20:45 GMT 7
CDC = ? Ok, Cashless debit card? OAP? ??
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 7:46:57 GMT 7
CDC = ? Ok, Cashless debit card? OAP? ?? Rumor mill. They haven't even been sworn in or had portfolios distributed yet.
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Post by isleboy on May 21, 2019 7:59:45 GMT 7
CDC = ? Ok, Cashless debit card? OAP? ?? Rumor mill. They haven't even been sworn in or had portfolios distributed yet. Bear, it maybe a rumor at this stage, but the general push to go cashless has defiantly a part in it. Of course it's all about $$$, control & surveillance for the powers that be, or the so-called elite. Wouldn't be surprised in the least...
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Post by agonydan on May 21, 2019 8:21:11 GMT 7
Problem with the internet its a rumor making machine. It only becomes true when there are real facts out there to prove the rumor to be true.
Some people like to spread rumors to cause a distraction and rabble from people. If some can't back up their claims then take it with a very small grain of salt.
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Post by muggins on May 21, 2019 8:34:16 GMT 7
Problem with the internet its a rumor making machine. It only becomes true when there are real facts out there to prove the rumor to be true. Some people like to spread rumors to cause a distraction and rabble from people. If some can't back up their claims then take it with a very small grain of salt. The way the christian extremist PM is constantly talking about 'paying for the essential services we all rely on' and 'those that have a go will get a go' type of jargon, it's reasonable to expect he has plans for us. And btw, that senate looks scary as hell to me.
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Post by paddy on May 21, 2019 13:35:13 GMT 7
So much good has come. I like Lambie returning but I am very happy to see Ian Mac, Anning, Jim Molan, Hinch, Abbott gone in either house. Greens getting country-wide swings is great signs in the future. I disagree Wombat on Lambie being a bad person. Just misguided imo. I feel her heart is in the right place but misguided. Complete difference to ON and Anning who know and are calculated in their hate for the working class and poor.
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Post by mulloway on May 21, 2019 16:53:54 GMT 7
If the Lib-National party were as good economic managers as they profess to be they would not need to make these repeated cuts to social services. Whether we like it or not Scott Morrison is our leader and he has considerable power to execute his agenda. I have studied Scott's words and body language carefully and although he is NOT a cruel psychopath like Tony Abbott he has zero (or at least very little) empathy for people on welfare. His mantra: "The best form of welfare is a job" is fine with me as long as there are jobs for people with a limited work capacity to go into immediately.
I predict they will try to expand the Indue Cashless Card but will only be able to do it incrementally on a site by site basis. As we all know Indue has covert links to the Lib-Nat party. Indue corp. is both Unelected and Unaccountable for its actions and is the first major step by the Lib-Nat party to privatize our Social Security System. The Indue Card is two things. Firstly it is an act of social engineering, that is designed to closely control and monitor the lives of the poor. Secondly it is a massive money maker for the Lib-Nat party, as literally billions of dollars of our money will be controlled by a small group of unknown entities.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 19:45:01 GMT 7
yes it a lie or a myth that liberals are better economic managers, debt and unemployment is much worse now then under labor, just because liberals cut funding to social services and welfare and gives the money to the big end of town doesn't make them better economic managers www.senatorlambie.com.au/lambie_agrees_with_twiggy_forrests_healthy_welfare_key_card_trial_and_wants_it_rolled_out_in_tasmanianLambie agrees with Twiggy Forrest's Healthy Welfare Key Card trial - and wants it rolled out in Tasmanian Following a trip to Ceduna, South Australia, Independent Senator Jacqui Lambie has voted for a healthy welfare key card trial in the community, with the hope of success so it can be implemented in Tasmania. ``I had, and still have reservations about the manner in which this trial is to be conducted, as the Ceduna community felt they hadn’t been consulted with,’’ Senator Lambie said. ``However, our kids are needlessly suffering, because too much of our welfare money is being spent on illicit drugs and alcohol. Our mums and dads with diminished capacity through addictions and mental health disabilities are needlessly suffering because too much of our welfare money is being spent on illicit drugs and alcohol. Once the teething problems with this new card and its technology are sorted out, I would like a healthy welfare key card rolled out across the whole of Tasmania. Not only will it save lives, but it will save taxpayers’ dollars in the long run as every dollar spent on early intervention saves $7, according to JLN candidate Rob Waterman. This card is only one step to addressing Tasmania’s crippling social disadvantage.” Senator Lambie said.
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Post by tasjo on May 21, 2019 20:06:56 GMT 7
To be honest Lambie scares me more than most of the rest... She has such a narrow view of welfare recipients based on her own experience, and now she has her $$$'s back probably assumes it's now ok to put whole communities on the card. Read the other things that she thinks would be appropriate and then look at the gap between what is currently available (particularly in terms of rehab). While I know of people who would benefit from the card, it is far from all welfare recipients Maybe time to get the UP application in
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 20:22:03 GMT 7
To be honest Lambie scares me more than most of the rest... She has such a narrow view of welfare recipients based on her own experience, and now she has her $$$'s back probably assumes it's now ok to put whole communities on the card. Read the other things that she thinks would be appropriate and then look at the gap between what is currently available (particularly in terms of rehab). While I know of people who would benefit from the card, it is far from all welfare recipients Maybe time to get the UP application in shes someone of limited education and intelligence l think Twiggy forrest has taken advantage of her to flog his card in Tasmania, the card is being sold as some sort of miracle cure for drink, drug and gambling problems, they say it will even end unemployment and cure domestic violence, but it wont make a difference to any of these things all it will do is make people lives worse and make billions of taxpayer money for the liberal mates in the INDUE card company. we know this because the basics card has already operated for 10 years and has been a total failure
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 20:35:49 GMT 7
labor held a lavish expesive victory party a day before the election, thye even took photos of the future cabinet ministers togetherfor the newspapers after the victory, l think they took the people for granted that they would vote for them www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/free-beers-fancy-cocktails-and-a-lavish-slap-up-dinner-inside-labors-pre-election-party-as-they-toasted-victory-only-to-suffer-a-humiliating-defeat-in-election-stunner/ar-AABG2Np?ocid=spartandhpFree beers, fancy cocktails and a lavish slap-up dinner: Inside Labor's PRE-election party as they toasted victory... only to suffer a humiliating defeat in election stunner Labor was so sure it had victory in the bag that party headquarters in Sydney threw a huge election eve party with free booze and prawns galore. Labor was so sure it had victory in the bag that party headquarters in Sydney threw a huge election eve party with free booze and prawns galore. Staffers could even win free massages at their desk on Fridays through a raffle put on by ALP high command. Bill Shorten was drinking too, knocking back a few lagers at the pub in Bob Hawke's memory with current and former Victorian premiers Daniel Andrews and Steve Bracks. Chris Bowen, who would have been treasurer if the ALP won, even posted a photo of key party figures as if they were already in government.
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Post by isleboy on May 21, 2019 20:36:36 GMT 7
To be honest Lambie scares me more than most of the rest... She has such a narrow view of welfare recipients based on her own experience, and now she has her $$$'s back probably assumes it's now ok to put whole communities on the card. Read the other things that she thinks would be appropriate and then look at the gap between what is currently available (particularly in terms of rehab). While I know of people who would benefit from the card, it is far from all welfare recipients Maybe time to get the UP application in shes someone of limited education and intelligence l think Twiggy forrest has taken advantage of her to flog his card in Tasmania, the card is being sold as some sort of miracle cure for drink, drug and gambling problems, they say it will even end unemployment and cure domestic violence, but it wont make a difference to any of these things all it will do is make people lives worse and make billions of taxpayer money for the liberal mates in the INDUE card company. we know this because the basics card has already operated for 10 years and has been a total failure Wow, she even claims that their $$$ control card will save lives!! Where have we heard that exaggerated bs before ? This maybe true for a few, but NOT for every one else. I certainly wouldn't trust her. They will never improve peoples lives by forcibly taken away cash & not addressing the root causes. Of course we all here know now, of what their real intentions & motives are.
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Post by mulloway on May 21, 2019 21:05:55 GMT 7
They will initially justify its roll out by forcing it on people in locations with high welfare dependence. They wont be able to apply it nationally in one fell swoop as there is too much resistance to it and it would be unlikely to get through the Senate. Actually if they tried it nationally I would expect there would be riots in the streets. I you have an address in an affluent area you should be safe for the next few years. One of the last places I would expect them to impose it would be in Canberra itself.
My advice to people who can qualify for U.P. is to apply and get out of Australia permanently. Kind of like severely disabled people seeking refugee status overseas out of fear of being persecuted by the Lib-National government. If you moved to another country on U.P. at least you would still have your freedom. As Milton wrote in Paradise Lost: "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven".
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