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Post by mmett on Jul 18, 2019 6:23:17 GMT 7
Hi,Iam on UP with my wife being a carer for me,we have travelled to Europe for a long holiday and see my relatives,we have been here from start of February we are still here,we have received a letter from department of human services saying that my wife’s carer allowance has been cancelled,I always thought that it might be suspended no cancelled,I was never told that carer allowance will be cancelled ,can anybody enlighten my what the go is?Also I tried ringing Centrelink to find out what’s going on with my wife’s carer allowance before I could get a word in it has eaten all my credit,surely there must be way of getting in touch with them.Any recommendations. regards
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 6:43:59 GMT 7
Morning mmett sorry to hear your bad news re carers allowance. Once your back in Oz, it may not be too difficult to have it reinstated. The link below is for Toll Free Numbers to Centrelink's International Services. I can personally vouch for them being toll free, as I checked my balance, called them from Thailand, was put on hold and checked the balance after the call ended. Cost, nil, zero, zilch. Hope it all goes well for you both. Perhaps it has been cancelled because of the time factor. DSP get up to 13 weeks before cancellation; my guess is carers would be the same. February...........July! Cheers bear www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/contact-us/international-phone-numbers
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jul 18, 2019 14:21:29 GMT 7
bearI thought carers only got 4 weeks?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 16:50:40 GMT 7
bear I thought carers only got 4 weeks? Denis-NFANo mate, that's the major anomaly in the portability mix. Carer's actually are given six weeks. I possibly overstepped the mark by suggesting they could be suspended after portability expired in line with DSP'ers, for up to 13 weeks; but if they can't it makes the whole portability thing even more ludicrous. DSP/4weeks; Carer/6weeks.....huh, how does that work again? Cheers bear
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Post by cripple on Jul 18, 2019 17:13:47 GMT 7
Hi mmett, I'm interested because you say your wife has careres allowance. Does this mean centerlink know about your wife and that your getting the partners rate but you where getting careres allowance to make your combined income a bit more higher after the loss of payment from being partnered ?
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Post by tasjo on Jul 18, 2019 17:37:34 GMT 7
Mmett... my understanding of carers allowance (and payment) is that you can have either multiple 6 week stays overseas (while with the person you care for) or can use all your respite days for the year in one go (93 days) if you have either formal or informal care arrangements in place.
After 6 weeks or 93 days you would need to return to Australia to 'reset'.
I will see if I can find out whether the cancellation is removed on your return to Australia.
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Post by cripple on Jul 18, 2019 17:46:55 GMT 7
hey mmett I was just reading your old post about your UP application and the forum just Suddenly ended with no update , the last post you said you got knocked back on the ARO review. Now you mentioned you got UP ? May you please update me , thanks
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Post by tasjo on Jul 19, 2019 9:25:42 GMT 7
bear I thought carers only got 4 weeks? Denis-NFANo mate, that's the major anomaly in the portability mix. Carer's actually are given six weeks. I possibly overstepped the mark by suggesting they could be suspended after portability expired in line with DSP'ers, for up to 13 weeks; but if they can't it makes the whole portability thing even more ludicrous. DSP/4weeks; Carer/6weeks.....huh, how does that work again? Cheers bear Unfortunately not the only anomaly bear... but its one of the more obvious ones. Carers cannot get UP. I believe the carers portability has not changed in the same way DSP did because its also a payment for children.i cant see carers changing partly due to the respite days as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 9:56:28 GMT 7
Denis-NFA No mate, that's the major anomaly in the portability mix. Carer's actually are given six weeks. I possibly overstepped the mark by suggesting they could be suspended after portability expired in line with DSP'ers, for up to 13 weeks; but if they can't it makes the whole portability thing even more ludicrous. DSP/4weeks; Carer/6weeks.....huh, how does that work again? Cheers bear Unfortunately not the only anomaly bear... but its one of the more obvious ones. Carers cannot get UP. I believe the carers portability has not changed in the same way DSP did because its also a payment for children.i cant see carers changing partly due to the respite days as well. Thanks tasjo I see what you mean! So many things out of whack; all due to the one size fits all approach. Maybe it should be applied right across the board; shoes, hats, clothing etc. Maybe then they'd start to understand it was right in the first place! As individuals we all deserve individual management. Think of the Jobs.....real productive jobs; such an attitude could/would or should provide. Sorry.....fairytale land again! We can't be taking backward steps. Cheers bear
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Post by cripple on Jul 19, 2019 10:11:43 GMT 7
I'm interested in partner rates and if having a partner as a carerer works
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 11:17:40 GMT 7
I'm interested in partner rates and if having a partner as a carerer works Works where cripple ! In Australia or Overseas. I think you'll find mmett and his wife are both Australian. I hope he'll correct me if I'm wrong. As Australian residents & citizens both; of course it works. Having a partner who just happens to be your carer, that is a citizen of another country, in their home country, will, I think you'll find, open up a whole new world of pain for you. UP will be a walk in the park. For starters, if Centrelink are advised you have a partner, you will have your pension cut to the partnered rate. Your partner won't get anything because they are not an Australian citizen. Being with you as an Australian citizen means jack! If this were to happen, you would then have to prove to Centrelink that your carer/partner has no means to support themselves, has no assets, and relies totally on you for support. Bear in mind you would be trying to do all this from overseas. Below is a question I believe you also need answers for, just in case you find yourself overseas on a reduced pension after six months away. I'm tossing this question out there because it's been nagging away for a few weeks now. Does anybody know if their are ramifications for younger DSP recipients who may be granted UP, in regards to AWLR. Eg. If a 36 y.o. DSP'er is granted UP, is their pension likely to be affected by AWLR after six months away? Will it be cut proportionately because of only having 20 years AWLR? What are your thoughts on, or any experience with this. Cheers bear
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Post by tasjo on Jul 19, 2019 11:18:09 GMT 7
I'm interested in partner rates and if having a partner as a carerer works Partner rates for DSP and Carers Payment are the same... approx $650 a fortnight each. Carers allowance approx $120 a fortnight. But Carers Payment also restricts how much the Carer can work in addition to caring to 25 hrs a week including travel. Carers allowance is not income or asset tested and does not restrict how much the carer works. However for adults it also does not give a concession or pension card.
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Post by tasjo on Jul 19, 2019 11:21:17 GMT 7
Bear - I dont know but I will most likely find out before I apply for UP because I wont have 35yrs AWLR until I am 60... so potentially being away could affect my rate of OAP when I eventually qualify.
I'll post info as I find it out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 11:38:38 GMT 7
Bear - I dont know but I will most likely find out before I apply for UP because I wont have 35yrs AWLR until I am 60... so potentially being away could affect my rate of OAP when I eventually qualify. I'll post info as I find it out. Thanks tasjo! It's certainly something cripple needs to be aware could happen; along with the married, partnered, carer thing. I think we've got a member who did tell them they had a carer overseas, who got to keep full single rate. But any thoughts of getting the Australian couples rate by having an overseas national as a carer, just will not be entertained I'm certain of that! Cheers bear
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Post by tasjo on Jul 19, 2019 11:39:09 GMT 7
I'm interested in partner rates and if having a partner as a carerer works As bear said the potential for your dsp being reduced to partnered rate would be huge... the only time carers allowance it helps financially is if both yourself and your carer qualify for receiving partnered rate (yourself dsp and your partner carers payment).
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