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Post by rainyday on Oct 13, 2019 14:55:17 GMT 7
Will the card be rolled out to include aged pensioners also? Does anyone here know?
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Post by Trevros on Oct 13, 2019 15:16:15 GMT 7
Will the card be rolled out to include aged pensioners also? Does anyone here know? My take on it is that this is the start of getting rid of cash altogether so the banks can make even more money (and of course the parasitic tapeworms in Canberra can squeeze as much tax as possible out of us plebeians) - think negative interest rates where you have to pay to have 'money' in your account. It will also be an easy way to control us further, be good little boys and girls or we'll freeze your account/s so you'll starve to death. I don't like the direction this country is heading in at all, it will make Orwell's 1984 seem like a paradise.
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Post by isleboy on Oct 13, 2019 17:10:52 GMT 7
Will the card be rolled out to include aged pensioners also? Does anyone here know? My take on it is that this is the start of getting rid of cash altogether so the banks can make even more money (and of course the parasitic tapeworms in Canberra can squeeze as much tax as possible out of us plebeians) - think negative interest rates where you have to pay to have 'money' in your account. It will also be an easy way to control us further, be good little boys and girls or we'll freeze your account/s so you'll starve to death. I don't like the direction this country is heading in at all, it will make Orwell's 1984 seem like a paradise. Yes, sadly you're right on there. This is foremost of why they are going after the easiest, softest & weakest targets 1st. They will continue to scream & pretend that it'll make lives easier, so that everyone who survives on welfare will be better & healthier, as each & every individual is a desperate drug ⁺ alcohol addict etc. They will continue to use that smokescreen, so it'll make it much easier for them to expand it far & wide, with as little opposition for them as possible. Part of their agenda is indeed to increase surveillance & control.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 17:30:03 GMT 7
Will the card be rolled out to include aged pensioners also? Does anyone here know? YES is the short sharp answer rainyday ! In the short term they are proposing people in the NT & on the Cape; primarily indigenous people on OAP be placed on it first. However the legislation will allow every OAPer be placed on it in a national roll out. They will possibly have an option to exit; but as with everything with this foul government what they should have is an option to opt in....... I'm thinking eHealth in particular here. I'm sure there's a link somewhere to the actual legislation; possibly in this thread. If I can dredge it up I'll repost it. Cheers bear Here ya go Miss Rainy, with links to the bill and original article. It is back on page 5. 9 Subsection 124PD(1) (after paragraph (a) of the definition of 26 restrictable payment) 27 Insert: 28 (aa) in relation to a trial participant under section 124PGD or 29 124PGE, means: 30 (i) a payment of a kind listed in paragraph (a); or (ii) an age pension;parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;page=0;query=BillId:r6399%20Recstruct:billhomeRead more:- m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=822195644841918&id=275344262860395
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 18:07:40 GMT 7
Are you suggesting violence bear? Rebellion usually comes down to it as they will crush peaceful ones. Who would have believed what is going on 30 years ago? How did all this Mutate? Corporate greed is all I can equate it too. With politicians implementing it while brainwashing the population that they need to invest for retirement in these greedy giants. So the mum and dads invest their hard-earned so then support it. My apologies nomadic ....I found this in my search for @rainday's info on OAP; with it lacking any sort of recognition or response. How rude of me.... In response to what you've asked; I'm just a messenger of sentiment, well placed and well deserved IMHO and, if you think the cap fits, go ahead, feel free to wear it. I've already got one in my size and I have absolutely no intention of being sent to the crusher; not in this lifetime. Hope that's not to cryptic of an answer for you. Cheers bear Hint:- I prescribe to the Che Guevara & Uncle Ho school of thought, and would even include Osama bin Laden as well. He and the Mujahedeen were every bit the freedom fighters for Afghanistan against Russia as the other two were. Freedom Fighter/Terrorist; it's all just a personal point of view really; though I do find it comforting & reassuring, how often right can win out over might.
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Post by nomadic on Oct 13, 2019 19:11:11 GMT 7
Yep, the Taliban & pol pot were created also as a direct result of what the "GOOD" guys did. Back on topic, I think there would be the biggest protests ever if the CWC was rolled out 100% to all on welfare. I'm sure these villains want it but no chance is my bet. No confidence though after last Saturday's bets.
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Post by cookie on Oct 13, 2019 20:00:42 GMT 7
Yes cookie that is the official line. I had a feeling I was just being lulled into a false sense of security... Will read on as your suggest.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 13, 2019 20:09:39 GMT 7
Part of their agenda is indeed to increase surveillance & control. Totally disagree isleboy They have had all the control and surveillance in place for some time.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 13, 2019 21:30:46 GMT 7
I have no understanding other than they get their funding from the Government but 'shirley' the whole indue boondoggle is ripe for a High Court challenge brought by ACCOSS!
If anyone is in contact with her I'd like to hear what Rachel Seiwart might say about the merits of mounting such a challenge.
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Post by nomadic on Oct 14, 2019 6:50:30 GMT 7
Yes denis, surely better to give everyone on welfare the $10K that Indue gets per card would help the economy. The tax they get from all that gambling and booze that we live on alone. And we would all be happy drunks in the TAB. Everybody wins other than Indue. MONDAY GROWL just for you.
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Post by mspurple on Oct 14, 2019 10:03:02 GMT 7
I am curious what would happen to the funds in an indue account should the recipient pass away with funds still in their account.....usually the next of kin can eventually access those finances to finalize the deceased estate bills and funeral expenses etc. With some of what we have heard about indue I am concerned that families of people on the indue card may not be given access to the payment to finalize this stuff causing further hardship for the family and higher bank balances for indue. Thoughts on this issue I am very interested in
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 10:27:00 GMT 7
I am curious what would happen to the funds in an indue account should the recipient pass away with funds still in their account.....usually the next of kin can eventually access those finances to finalize the deceased estate bills and funeral expenses etc. With some of what we have heard about indue I am concerned that families of people on the indue card may not be given access to the payment to finalize this stuff causing further hardship for the family and higher bank balances for indue. Thoughts on this issue I am very interested in mspurple here is an excerpt from a Say No Seven post. There's plenty to read in that thread; though this is along the lines you asked about. Cheers bear "These fundamental changes, ones that alter the very nature of ' who owns what' have not been debated in parliament or exposed in media nor has any effort to inform the public at large been made. This awareness is not yet 'common knowledge'. Yet these changes have already been made and exist within the current legislative framework. They are in place right now. Peoples incomes are not simply being held outside of ability their control or access, legal ownership of the income itself is being transferred into the hands of a private corporate entity. This is a ' big deal'. We refer you to the Guide to Social Security Law Version 1.241, released 5th February 2018, and to Article 8.4.3 “Protection of Payment” therein which states: “Once a social security payment has been paid into a recipient’s bank account it is no longer a social security payment under the Act. It becomes part of the recipient’s funds”. However, despite the existence of this law, the redirection of payments to Indue Ltd itself for third party ‘management’ means that these lawful entitlements no longer legally become the property of Social Security recipients at all under the CDC/CDCT legislation. Instead, these funds belong solely to Indue Ltd and the entire system of Social Security payments is effectively transformed into a system of Credit. This issue has never been addressed by this Senate and we are compelled to ask, why?" Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/6117/say-fighting-cdc#ixzz62IMaDc7l
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 14, 2019 10:28:01 GMT 7
I am curious what would happen to the funds in an indue account should the recipient pass away with funds still in their account.....usually the next of kin can eventually access those finances to finalize the deceased estate bills and funeral expenses etc. With some of what we have heard about indue I am concerned that families of people on the indue card may not be given access to the payment to finalize this stuff causing further hardship for the family and higher bank balances for indue. Thoughts on this issue I am very interested in mspurpleFrom the bits and pieces that bear has provided above I gather that once it is paid to indue then it is their money. Fundamentally the whole scam is a criminal enterprise and if you are on it then report the theft to your nearest police station.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 10:41:51 GMT 7
I am curious what would happen to the funds in an indue account should the recipient pass away with funds still in their account.....usually the next of kin can eventually access those finances to finalize the deceased estate bills and funeral expenses etc. With some of what we have heard about indue I am concerned that families of people on the indue card may not be given access to the payment to finalize this stuff causing further hardship for the family and higher bank balances for indue. Thoughts on this issue I am very interested in mspurple From the bits and pieces that bear has provided above I gather that once it is paid to indue then it is their money. Fundamentally the whole scam is a criminal enterprise and if you are on it then report the theft to your nearest police station. I believe you are fundamentally correct Denis-NFA and our representative democratic elected government must be finding it harder & harder to keep their noses above water. I can't wait for them to drown in this cesspool of their own making; because I doubt very much if any of them have learnt to breathe through their ears. It's like the old story of, if so & so told you to jump of a bridge, would you do it. Twiggy came up with some harebrained scheme and sold them a pup. He's free and clear, it was just an idea; they jumped off the bridge all by themselves out of sheer greed for them and their accomplices. #Federal ICAC with teeth; NOW! Cheers bear
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 6:42:15 GMT 7
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