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Post by nomadic on Oct 15, 2019 14:38:59 GMT 7
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Post by mspurple on Oct 15, 2019 15:25:23 GMT 7
My goodness I can not for the life of me understand why these people feel the need to bring such things with them for a trip overseas! I used to love watching border security and it was always the same thing......uncooked (gross to me) things that no normal person wants to consume after they have been stuffed in luggage non refrigerated for hours and hours. No TV to fill my brain with rot for the last 7 months has been rather refreshing but right now I feel like I could really enjoy watching some border security
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 15, 2019 15:43:49 GMT 7
I saw somewhere today that in the last 12 months to end of August (?) that Customs have seized 27 tonnes of pig meat at international arrival airports.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 17:07:49 GMT 7
I saw somewhere today that in the last 12 months to end of August (?) that Customs have seized 27 tonnes of pig meat at international arrival airports. Denis-NFA You possibly read it in the article, I did; but look at the following. "Australian Pork Chief Executive Margo Andrae has commended the government's response to the pork discovery."The department has recently done testing in the last two weeks and in that two-week period there were 157 seizures that covered 418 individual products and almost 49 per cent of those products had ASF," Ms Andrae said." Are the stated figures correct or is it a government approved media beat up. Call me cynical; but when there's a Boa Constrictor large enough to eat children, on the loose in Sydney eating dogs, with the Vietnamese community being blamed for the dog losses. When a mildew somehow gets into the country and severely impacts our citrus industry in Qld & the Ord, not to mention the Fire Ants; I think bio-security is in place to provide employment as it's No.1 priority, and to strike fear into the hearts of Australians and incoming passengers it's No.2. Cheers bear
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Post by Banjo on Oct 15, 2019 19:07:27 GMT 7
I flew Alitalia into Melbourne many years ago, the Customs met the plane in force and checked every bag. Our officer told us that the Italians returning to Australia after a holiday "home" just cannot resist slipping a few sticks of Nonna's homemade pork sausage into the bottom of the suitcase.
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Post by nomadic on Oct 15, 2019 19:23:31 GMT 7
I used to bring packets of Chichen rice soup into oz years ago. You could not even see any pieces of chicken once you boiled it up. But during the bird flu, they took them off me after I declared them. Yum Yum the custom officer probably said.
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Post by rainyday on Oct 15, 2019 20:17:32 GMT 7
The custom officer probably said, winner, winner, chicken dinner
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 15, 2019 20:58:49 GMT 7
I didn't read the article bear but heard of it on another site. The person there was just drawing the difference as he can send Australian food packages to Vietnam from a mob in WA and okay the Viet person did the wrong thing but thought it a bit tough to deny entry. I know you can send Balakbyan boxes of food from Australia to the Philippines - send Vegemite and honey! But raw meat is a tad different but same person saying on trips to vietnam to visit family he fills an esky with frozen meat and ice. And that swine thing is killing pigs with China and NK hardest hit so far but its in the Phils and will have a potentially huge impact for SE Asia.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 15, 2019 21:00:28 GMT 7
The custom officer probably said, winner, winner, chicken dinner BBQ pork would be all the go!
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Post by tasjo on Oct 16, 2019 5:01:41 GMT 7
I do actually think that it was reasonable - or maybe I have fallen for the media hype... But having grown up in England and seen foot and mouth, mad cow disease and other diseases dessimate agricultural industries it always seemed bizarre that Australia had these strict quarantine rules but then such small penalties for breaching them.
Compare to one person giving the impression of working when on a tourist visa, to me this has potential to destroy far more. Programs like border security describing 'severe penalties' as $300 fines is kind of laughable.
As I said, maybe I have fallen for the media hype but personally I don't disagree with this one. I would hate to see swine flu or similar here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 5:33:12 GMT 7
I would apologize; but I was being somewhat flippant regarding the numbers quoted and over the top actions of some officers at airports. They seem disproportionate to the reports I've read from elsewhere on the planet.
Regarding the officers; irrespective of entry cards being printed in various languages, they do reflect an Australian mindset/view of the world. Eg. Person has apples. Q. Why didn't you declare them? They are food!" If the incoming passenger fully understood the question, let alone feeling alone in a strange land, intimidated, confused, flustered; they probably would answer. "No, no; not food! It's fruit.", because that is their worldview.
It is a serious issue and except for the fact the Australian pork industry is now virtually non-existent; all countries do need to be watchful. The people here are doing a great job and thankfully pork is still readily available. Does anybody else ever wonder why things like this, ebola, HIV etc. all seem to originate in Africa? Cheers bear
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Post by Banjo on Oct 16, 2019 7:04:45 GMT 7
I seem to recall the indigenous peoples of the Americas being devastated by European diseases after Columbus and our own Aboriginal peoples had a great number of fatalities from relatively simple bugs like measles.
Maybe we're just getting some of our own back.
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Post by nomadic on Oct 16, 2019 7:33:36 GMT 7
I hope i wasn't being misinterpreted. My laugh was about someone carrying pork on a plane like that. Not at the outcome. Those forms we fill in as well as an announcement on the plane as we land tell us nothing at all. And rightly so even though customs are a bit overzealous at times. But why would you want to carry 5 kilos of fresh pork to Australia in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 8:21:52 GMT 7
I hope i wasn't being misinterpreted. My laugh was about someone carrying pork on a plane like that. Not at the outcome. Those forms we fill in as well as an announcement on the plane as we land tell us nothing at all. And rightly so even though customs are a bit overzealous at times. But why would you want to carry 5 kilos of fresh pork to Australia in the first place? Well anyone who has lived in Australia probably wouldn't! Mum-maa or Aunty possibly have other ideas, even carry the bag so they can't feel the extra.....more to the point; why is stuff like that even allowed through the point of departure, through numerous screenings, when we can't even get through to departure with a bottle of water. It's a mystery how all bottles in the departure area can be bought and taken on board. Must be from secure area of manufacturing plant and delivered to secure areas only. Cheers bear
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Post by onemore on Oct 16, 2019 8:50:59 GMT 7
I used to work in a Moozy country where unfortunately I had to spend several Christmas periods onboard, so as you can imagine there was never any bacon for breakfast, or ham for Christmas dinners. One Christmas the locals came into the mess and there sitting on the servers counter was a pigs head, surrounded by bacon rashers neatly surrounding it.
Us expats had our lockers searched and a roasting from the manager, who had to organise a local religious person to come out and bless the rig.
Over a few beers when we got off the culprit, an Aussie owned up to it and was allowed to miss his shout as a reward.
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