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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 9:40:51 GMT 7
So I found out today that Centrelink wants to give me a year off to engage with my “treating health professional” (which is actually 8 specialists 2 of which I’m still on waiting lists for and have been since the start of the year) and to try treatment to see if my condition can be fully treated and stabilised and then after 1 year they want me to do a 2 year program of support. Ironically I just saw my cardiologist yesterday and he has been blocked by the government from providing the treatments he was going to prescribe that Centrelink has said will make me better. So the gov has blocked me from getting experimental treatments but at the same time have said experimental treatments will improve my condition (and supposedly experimental treatments are not reasonable so they don’t even follow their own legislation). I am very upset by this to say the least.
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 9:42:24 GMT 7
So I’ve been on Newstart for six years but they want me to be on it for nine years before I can get DSP. Even then who knows what will happen in a few years I may have more issues and they will start the whole process again because they have done this to me before where they give me a year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 10:35:30 GMT 7
This is not something I'm familiar with em . How were you advised exactly please? I also fail to understand how the government can block your treating specialist from treating you; even if with experimental technologies. Cheers bear |
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 11:09:49 GMT 7
This is not something I'm familiar with em . How were you advised exactly please? I also fail to understand how the government can block your treating specialist from treating you; even if with experimental technologies. Cheers bear Sorry I do not explain myself well. Rachel Siewert s office told me this. They have blocked my cardiologist from prescribing certain meds which are experimental for chronic fatigue syndrome because he prescribed them for another patient and got a warning from the gov saying he better not do that again so he gave me the news yesterday that he can not try the medications on me that we were planning to try. |
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 11:13:25 GMT 7
This is not something I'm familiar with em . How were you advised exactly please? I also fail to understand how the government can block your treating specialist from treating you; even if with experimental technologies. Cheers bear So rachel siewarts office told me that they have reduced my hours to 0-8 for a year and clink do not want me to engage with my provider until I’m treated and stabilised, which they say will happen within exactly a year. Then after 1 year they will put my hours up to 15 and I will be able to commence a program of support according to them. Failing that I will be eligible for DSP.. 3 years later |
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Post by mspurple on Oct 30, 2019 11:35:39 GMT 7
I don’t understand how the Dr has been blocked from prescribing medication. Unless it is a medication he is not actually authorised to prescribe I fail to see how the government can tell him he can’t prescribe it. I know there are some medications that only psychiatrists can prescribe regularly (like alprazolam for example) but it just seems odd that your specialist is saying the government (not Centrelink) have blocked him from prescribing for you.
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 12:05:16 GMT 7
I don’t understand how the Dr has been blocked from prescribing medication. Unless it is a medication he is not actually authorised to prescribe I fail to see how the government can tell him he can’t prescribe it. I know there are some medications that only psychiatrists can prescribe regularly (like alprazolam for example) but it just seems odd that your specialist is saying the government (not Centrelink) have blocked him from prescribing for you. Not for me personally but the meds were meds that are used for narcolepsy and for adhd so yes they said he can not do that again. They basically told him to stay in his lane because he’s a cardiologist. But this is how ridiculous it is that clink are using these treatments to deny me when my own dr can’t even do these treatments anymore |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 12:08:56 GMT 7
This is not something I'm familiar with em . How were you advised exactly please? I also fail to understand how the government can block your treating specialist from treating you; even if with experimental technologies. Cheers bear So rachel siewarts office told me that they have reduced my hours to 0-8 for a year and clink do not want me to engage with my provider until I’m treated and stabilised, which they say will happen within exactly a year. Then after 1 year they will put my hours up to 15 and I will be able to commence a program of support according to them. Failing that I will be eligible for DSP.. 3 years later Thanks for the information em. I hope tasjo may be able understand how that can happen, i.e a senator's office telling you your hours have been cut and not to engage with your provider etc. etc.; because I certainly can't. I would want something to that effect in writing from the department. Cheers bear |
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 12:11:50 GMT 7
So rachel siewarts office told me that they have reduced my hours to 0-8 for a year and clink do not want me to engage with my provider until I’m treated and stabilised, which they say will happen within exactly a year. Then after 1 year they will put my hours up to 15 and I will be able to commence a program of support according to them. Failing that I will be eligible for DSP.. 3 years later Thanks for the information em. I hope tasjo may be able understand how that can happen, i.e a senator's office telling you your hours have been cut and not to engage with your provider etc. etc.; because I certainly can't. I would want something to that effect in writing from the department. Cheers bear It’s basically an exemption. I’ve been on it before. It means they have assessed you as being too poorly to engage with your provider- they are admitting you are temporarily incapacitated (I have been in hospital 5x this year) but they are saying that you can get better and when you do then you can engage in a program of support. I think I’ve had 3 or 4 of these now. When I engaged with my provider years ago though they thought I was too sick and advised me to apply for DSP and go back on med cert cuz they couldn’t help me. |
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 12:13:36 GMT 7
So rachel siewarts office told me that they have reduced my hours to 0-8 for a year and clink do not want me to engage with my provider until I’m treated and stabilised, which they say will happen within exactly a year. Then after 1 year they will put my hours up to 15 and I will be able to commence a program of support according to them. Failing that I will be eligible for DSP.. 3 years later Thanks for the information em. I hope tasjo may be able understand how that can happen, i.e a senator's office telling you your hours have been cut and not to engage with your provider etc. etc.; because I certainly can't. I would want something to that effect in writing from the department. Cheers bear Also I have found out that a program of support is engaging with your provider to look for 15 hours of work a week. If you are less than 15 you are on an exemption. But the catch is that even on a “program of support” they can do things like penalise you if you get work and then are too poorly to do the job (as I was told by my provider last time) |
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 12:17:39 GMT 7
So rachel siewarts office told me that they have reduced my hours to 0-8 for a year and clink do not want me to engage with my provider until I’m treated and stabilised, which they say will happen within exactly a year. Then after 1 year they will put my hours up to 15 and I will be able to commence a program of support according to them. Failing that I will be eligible for DSP.. 3 years later Thanks for the information em. I hope tasjo may be able understand how that can happen, i.e a senator's office telling you your hours have been cut and not to engage with your provider etc. etc.; because I certainly can't. I would want something to that effect in writing from the department. Cheers bear I just read the email again. It is basically like a medical certificate except given to me by clink so I am on an “exemption” as you would be if you had a med cert and therefore not allowed to do a program of support |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 12:33:26 GMT 7
Thanks for the information em . I hope tasjo may be able understand how that can happen, i.e a senator's office telling you your hours have been cut and not to engage with your provider etc. etc.; because I certainly can't. I would want something to that effect in writing from the department. Cheers bear I just read the email again. It is basically like a medical certificate except given to me by clink so I am on an “exemption” as you would be if you had a med cert and therefore not allowed to do a program of support OK, so if I'm understanding things correctly, they aren't really as bad as you first thought? Your off the hook so to speak, to enable you to engage with your medical team....Yes? If so, and if it was me; I think I'd get all reports up to date, then either put in a new claim or go with AAT. I don't think they can dictate how you proceed, nor tell you that in one year you have to do a two year POS before applying again. Is that in fact written anywhere? Cheers bear |
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 12:53:07 GMT 7
I just read the email again. It is basically like a medical certificate except given to me by clink so I am on an “exemption” as you would be if you had a med cert and therefore not allowed to do a program of support OK, so if I'm understanding things correctly, they aren't really as bad as you first thought? Your off the hook so to speak, to enable you to engage with your medical team....Yes? If so, and if it was me; I think I'd get all reports up to date, then either put in a new claim or go with AAT. I don't think they can dictate how you proceed, nor tell you that in one year you have to do a two year POS before applying again. Is that in fact written anywhere? Cheers bear I’ve been on this one year exemption 3-4x now over 6 years because they had to admit I can’t do it, was just trying to explain to you what it is. It just means you’re severe but they still won’t give you dsp because they say you can improve in 24 months |
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Post by em on Oct 30, 2019 12:54:51 GMT 7
I just read the email again. It is basically like a medical certificate except given to me by clink so I am on an “exemption” as you would be if you had a med cert and therefore not allowed to do a program of support OK, so if I'm understanding things correctly, they aren't really as bad as you first thought? Your off the hook so to speak, to enable you to engage with your medical team....Yes? If so, and if it was me; I think I'd get all reports up to date, then either put in a new claim or go with AAT. I don't think they can dictate how you proceed, nor tell you that in one year you have to do a two year POS before applying again. Is that in fact written anywhere? Cheers bear “Our Centrelink liaison advised that you should only be engaging in the Program of Support with your DES provider after your current exemption period.” |
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Post by mspurple on Oct 30, 2019 14:43:40 GMT 7
I don’t understand how the Dr has been blocked from prescribing medication. Unless it is a medication he is not actually authorised to prescribe I fail to see how the government can tell him he can’t prescribe it. I know there are some medications that only psychiatrists can prescribe regularly (like alprazolam for example) but it just seems odd that your specialist is saying the government (not Centrelink) have blocked him from prescribing for you. Not for me personally but the meds were meds that are used for narcolepsy and for adhd so yes they said he can not do that again. They basically told him to stay in his lane because he’s a cardiologist. But this is how ridiculous it is that clink are using these treatments to deny me when my own dr can’t even do these treatments anymore Well that gives a bit more insight into why your Doctor can not prescribe it..... I totally understand now. I am also a bit surprised that a cardiologist would want to prescribe something that is so damaging to the heart muscle. Maybe it’s all a bit more complicated than I first thought I guess as I am sure your dr would have weighed up the dangers against the hoped positive outcome of you trialling stimulants. |
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