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Post by pensioner700 on Nov 9, 2019 16:07:03 GMT 7
Hi all I currently have DSP UP and have been living overseas for the past 5 years approximately. I am now considering changing to the OAP. What are the rules regarding portability? If I go back to Australia, do I have to serve a 2-year waiting period before regaining unlimited portability? Ideally, I would like to spend 6 months in Australia, 6 months overseas (the 26 weeks) and receive full Age Pension in this time. Can someone comment on what the rules are for a person with DSP unlimited portability, living overseas, and wanting to change to OAP? Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 17:57:32 GMT 7
Welcome to the forum pensioner700 . I don't think their are any definitive answers to your questions outlined in legislation. Firstly: If you return to Australia for a holiday within five years, you will maintain your Medicare. After five years you will need to prove residency to have Medicare reinstated. Secondly: You can return to Australia and leave when on UP, without advising of your comings or goings. Thirdly: Since the OAP & DSP payments are the same why would you want to changeover? Members here who have not received DSP UP, have only changed to be allowed UP on OAP. Fourthly: Being on UP I don't think you would be required to serve two years non portability. Checking with Centrelink International Services would confirm this and probably answer any questions you may have regarding your circumstances. CIS Freecall see link below. Cheers bear Fifth: Again I would have to check, but if you remain on DSP, you may keep eligibility for the NDIS should you ever require it. Contact Centrelink To contact Centrelink from outside Australia about your payment or service, you can call us on the following numbers. These are free call numbers. www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/contact-us/phone-us/international-phone-numbers
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 9, 2019 18:02:34 GMT 7
Hi all I currently have DSP UP and have been living overseas for the past 5 years approximately. I am now considering changing to the OAP. What are the rules regarding portability? If I go back to Australia, do I have to serve a 2-year waiting period before regaining unlimited portability? Ideally, I would like to spend 6 months in Australia, 6 months overseas (the 26 weeks) and receive full Age Pension in this time. Can someone comment on what the rules are for a person with DSP unlimited portability, living overseas, and wanting to change to OAP? Thank you pensioner700Welcome to the forum. I also have DSP UP and have been overseas for 6 years. I also have a CentreLink Online Account and on checking it last night I am invited by C/Link to online transition to the OAP. I have to complete the application by my birthday in January and as far as I can determine I am just rolled from DSP UP to OAP UP. No need for 2 years at all. They also indicated that there is a 3 month period of grace for this prior to the occurrence of your eligibility for OAP which of course is determined by your date of birth. All the best Denis
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Post by timber on Nov 9, 2019 19:29:14 GMT 7
Dennis, you don't have to wait 2 years to change to OAP, but if you ever come back to Australia with the OAP, you might have to wait 2 years to get portability of your OAP.
I'm happy to be corrected on this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 20:05:54 GMT 7
Dennis, you don't have to wait 2 years to change to OAP, but if you ever come back to Australia with the OAP, you might have to wait 2 years to get portability of your OAP. I'm happy to be corrected on this. timber that's one I'm happy to leave to International Services to clarify! The DSP UP transitioning period is coming into play for several members.... IMHO it shouldn't make any difference; as if you didn't transition you could come and go on DSP UP unhindered, though they may have other ideas and try it on. Cheers bear
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 9, 2019 20:42:13 GMT 7
Dennis, you don't have to wait 2 years to change to OAP, but if you ever come back to Australia with the OAP, you might have to wait 2 years to get portability of your OAP. I'm happy to be corrected on this. timberI appreciate your comment but I am kinda under the impression that I have a period of 'Grace' whereby if I do what they want then nothing changes apart from they take 1 number away from the DSP count and the count of DSP recipients living overseas on UP and add 1 to the count of OAP's living overseas on UP. I do not believe that the legislation allows the process that I am pursuing without the designation of 'Grace' and I add that I have not personally applied for nor sought the OAP but instead have been invited to pursue this mechanism. Which I am doing. It came out of 'the blue'. Cheers Denis
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 9, 2019 20:52:38 GMT 7
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Post by nomadic on Nov 10, 2019 7:15:16 GMT 7
Welcome, p700. I am also in yours and denis's situation and have been pondering it when it arrives. Maybe already as I have no online account and my birthday is almost the same as denis. My gut feeling is not to rock the boat and stay on DSP with UP and continue to come and go as I please. The fact that they want us to change probably means for their benefit and not ours. Money is the same so why change. But I am not 100% sure what I will do until the time comes and like you need more info.
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Post by Banjo on Nov 10, 2019 7:22:45 GMT 7
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Post by nomadic on Nov 10, 2019 7:31:59 GMT 7
and please let us know what they say?
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 10, 2019 15:37:18 GMT 7
nomadicAfter previously thinking I would stay on DSP when I saw the process they are offering I thought why not for 2 reasons, 1. I'm unlikely as in not at all to be going back to Australia to take 'advantage' of NDIS; and 2. I will never have to worry about the Morlochs changing rules on me again, at least not in my lifetime. But that is just my situation of course and other folk will have their own situation to consider. bear or Banjo do you know how many Forum members are still awaiting the outcome of an UP application?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 17:41:20 GMT 7
I don't know for sure Denis-NFA , though possibly none. That will change if the two members who are considering UP apply though. A couple of members on DSP took alternative routes to UP through taking up the challenge of finally applying for their DVA pensions and have been successful. DVA has full portability. Other than that, and your first hand knowledge of the posts here; sorry, can't help ya. Cheers bear
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Post by nomadic on Nov 10, 2019 18:27:09 GMT 7
Any idea of any others here apart from em and rainy who are fighting for DSP?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 20:03:17 GMT 7
That's it as far as I'm aware nomadic!
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Post by nomadic on Nov 11, 2019 6:13:52 GMT 7
So there is another 199,998 disabled who need this forum. Who'd be a busy bear then? But not as busy as the AAT. Imagine if every one of them appealed tomorrow. We can only dream.
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