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Post by rainyday on Jan 28, 2020 19:43:56 GMT 7
nomadic, you are the master of growls, I should hang my head in shame
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Post by imajica on Jan 29, 2020 5:03:08 GMT 7
Notice how Scotty from Marketing is attempting to rebrand our Social Security Safety net (a constitutional right) to Welfare (a taxpayer burden). The LNP aim to Americanize our Social Security system, they would have the unemployed living off food stamps and Church handouts. one wonders what secretive measures are being developed to handle the uptake in crime and the inevitable consequences that forced poverty brings, brown shirts comes to mind or will bolts of lighting simply strike the ungodly poverty stricken down. Australians complacency is a recipe for anarchy, all suffer in the end.
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Post by bunyip on Jan 29, 2020 6:02:31 GMT 7
yes if Morriscum had his way the welfare system would consist of food parcels from his Hillsong church , as someone here said the liberals want an amercian style economy with a massive gap between rich and poor, Minumum wage of $10 an hour for the workers while the boss of the company gets $20 million salary and huge tent cities of homeless and no welfare safety net except food stamps . From what l read about Morrisons Pentecostal evanagelic religion has something called the ' prosperity doctrine ' where he believes the poor are cursed by GOd and poverty is a punishment for their sins while the wealthy are blessed by GOd and should be rewarded "The implications of such a stance in the view of Bishop George Browning are that health and riches are ‘a sign of God’s blessing, and poverty a sign of divine disapproval – even punishment’; the poor only have themselves to blame for their ill fortune, and need to be pressured out of laziness and to exercise personal responsibility." Scott Morrison, the ‘Prosperity Gospel’, and neoliberalism www.socialpolicyconnections.com.au/?p=13818
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Post by rainyday on Jan 29, 2020 6:59:07 GMT 7
yes if Morriscum had his way the welfare system would consist of food parcels from his Hillsong church , as someone here said the liberals want an amercian style economy with a massive gap between rich and poor, Minumum wage of $10 an hour for the workers while the boss of the company gets $20 million salary and huge tent cities of homeless and no welfare safety net except food stamps . From what l read about Morrisons Pentecostal evanagelic religion has something called the ' prosperity doctrine ' where he believes the poor are cursed by GOd and poverty is a punishment for their sins while the wealthy are blessed by GOd and should be rewarded "The implications of such a stance in the view of Bishop George Browning are that health and riches are ‘a sign of God’s blessing, and poverty a sign of divine disapproval – even punishment’; the poor only have themselves to blame for their ill fortune, and need to be pressured out of laziness and to exercise personal responsibility." Scott Morrison, the ‘Prosperity Gospel’, and neoliberalism www.socialpolicyconnections.com.au/?p=13818I don't subscribe to the beliefs of the breakaway churches, which includes the view of the Anglican church by George Browning. Jesus was a poor carpenter, he never preached that poverty is a sign of divine disapproval. Thankfully my Catholic friends don't consider that I am to blame for getting sick and unable to work. Also the prosperity gospel is not Biblical, they just make up their own stuff to make them "feel" good about themselves.
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Post by nomadic on Jan 29, 2020 7:17:02 GMT 7
nomadic, you are the master of growls, I should hang my head in shame No not in shame. A little growl is better than just standing by and doing nothing. Maybe I'm the stereotype Aussie whinger? Oh no we lost the cricket. The world will end. But Morrison is a good guy. Ignorance is bliss for sure.
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Post by bear on Jan 30, 2020 5:59:31 GMT 7
Welfare groups wary of Centrelink reporting changes
The Morrison government expects to save $2.1 billion from the new measure
Anti-poverty advocates fear plans to change Centrelink income reporting for welfare recipients may cause a repeat of the federal government’s “disastrous” robodebt program.Social Services Minister Anne Ruston on Tuesday announced changes allowing welfare recipients earning an income to report their fortnightly earnings to Centrelink using their payslip. Currently recipients must manually calculate their earnings based on the number of shifts they worked and the hourly rate, rather than the amount they were actually paid. Ruston said this would improve payment accuracy, and save the government $2.1 billion over five years. “We want to make sure that Australians who need financial support are able to get the support that they are eligible for – no less and no more,” Ruston said. “The current system of calculating earnings can be confusing and lead to misreporting especially when accounting for overtime or penalty rates. These changes will make accurate reporting much easier.” While anti-poverty groups welcomed the simplification of the reporting process, they were wary of any attempts to automate welfare payments, noting the issues with the government’s automated debt recovery system robodebt. Robodebt used data from government agencies to pick up discrepancies with what people had reported to Centrelink, but this led to thousands of welfare recipients being sent automated recovery notices even when they didn’t owe money. The government admitted in November that robodebt was unlawful, and 734,000 welfare recipients who received robodebt notices are still waiting to find out if they are entitled to refunds. Australian Council of Social Service CEO Dr Cassandra Goldie said it was important that this new system was accurate, and that people could easily make corrections where pre-filled data was wrong. She said ACOSS would closely check the legislation to ensure automated income averaging is not used. “Robodebt shows how disastrous relying on automation can be, which is why there must be proper checks and balances in place,” Goldie said. “Automated income averaging has been one of the worst aspects of robodebt… up to 60 per cent of robodebts used averaging, which was found to be unlawful by the Federal Court last year.” Goldie added that whatever savings the government expected to make through the changes, “it must factor in money owed to potentially thousands of people who were wrongly charged with robodebts since 2016”. Jeremy Poxon of the Australian Unemployed Workers’ Union echoed Goldie’s sentiments, telling Pro Bono News it was “ludicrous” for the government to talk about savings from the new system, when it was still unknown how much the government owed people who paid false robodebts. He said he was not convinced this new system will accomplish what the government is trying to achieve, given the potential risks of tying income reporting to worker’s payroll slips. “For example, there is a very serious likelihood that payroll errors made by employers could result in accidental over-reporting that would see recipients land false debts,” Poxon said. “According to research conducted last year by the Australian Payroll Association, payroll managers admitted to making payment blunders at least once a month. “Given the rampant wage theft cases we’re seeing popping up all over the country, it seems especially dangerous for income support recipients and vulnerable workers to solely rely on their employers to do the right thing.” Poxon was critical of the plan when it was first revealed in last year’s budget, telling Pro Bono News last April that the emphasis on overpayments unfairly framed welfare recipients as dishonest when many were desperately struggling to survive. He said this latest announcement was similarly unfairly targeted. “[It] follows the same cruel and tired logic of austerity: that the government must claw back funds from poor people to achieve its surplus,” he said.
“Rather than raising Newstart, or prioritising the payback of illegal robodebts, it’s disgraceful that they’re instead planning to take away more money from the people they’re already failing.”probonoaustralia.com.au/news/2020/01/welfare-groups-wary-of-centrelink-reporting-changes/
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Post by nomadic on Jan 30, 2020 7:00:41 GMT 7
Does anyone know if this Ruston is a pentecostal lunatic? She shows all the same symptoms to me.
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Post by rainyday on Jan 30, 2020 7:43:31 GMT 7
Does anyone know if this Ruston is a pentecostal lunatic? She shows all the same symptoms to me. Not sure nomadic, she appears to have some weird ideas and lacks compassion for the poor, that much we know!
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Post by bunyip on Jan 30, 2020 15:33:12 GMT 7
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Post by imajica on Jan 30, 2020 16:21:28 GMT 7
bunyip, I needed to medicate myself after reading that, unbelievable!
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Post by nomadic on Jan 30, 2020 16:38:36 GMT 7
bunyip, I needed to medicate myself after reading that, unbelievable! cheers ima, I needed a smile after reading so much horror that bear posted on the Pentecostals. I'll now do so also with a beer on a flexi drinking Thursday.
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Post by rainyday on Jan 30, 2020 17:11:36 GMT 7
bunyip , I needed to medicate myself after reading that, unbelievable! Actually she is quite clueless, and is an embarrassment to the Australian people. Sort of sad to think we have people like her in politics that make these outlandish statements. There are some rather uneducated and uniformed people in the political arena. Hand me a paracetamol please, I feel a headache coming on.
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Post by rainyday on Jan 30, 2020 17:27:20 GMT 7
Oh stupid auto correct... that should read ill informed, not uniformed.
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Post by rainyday on Jan 30, 2020 17:34:56 GMT 7
I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't gamble and I don't do drugs, so how come I am still struggling on newstart and still cannot afford to get some things and services that would benefit my health. One day my story will come out and they will have to acknowledge more clearly what they are doing to us citizens, and particularly those who are aging and unable to work with disabilities, yet left to rot on newstart. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by nomadic on Jan 30, 2020 19:04:27 GMT 7
your grr is getting better rainy. Sadly I do drink and gamble. but never drugs. And only in total moderation for both. I like the thrill of the chase and the relaxation a can or 2 at 5.00 achieves 3 days a week only. Ok, 4 this week. I am only human.
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