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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 17:29:53 GMT 7
I also attached to independent medical examiners report from my workers compensation both stating no future work capacity on the open labour market. So let’s hope 3 psychiatrist stating permanent incapacity helps me, I couldn’t possibly supply anymore supporting evidence. Your medico-legal report from the independent medical examiner will stand you in good stead. That gives me an idea about how I might obtain a report like that myself. Yes I’m hoping the medico-legal reports do hold some weight with the JCA seeing as these guys are paid to get us back to work. I have supplied two IME from seperate consultant psychiatrist both stating permanent work incapacity. And my own doctors report dated 26/02/2021 stating the same. But unfortunately the JCA can go against medical advice from the treating expert, but I do have a lot of comprehensive evidence submitted.
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Post by genx on Mar 10, 2021 20:24:17 GMT 7
Yes I’m hoping the medico-legal reports do hold some weight with the JCA seeing as these guys are paid to get us back to work. I have supplied two IME from seperate consultant psychiatrist both stating permanent work incapacity. And my own doctors report dated 26/02/2021 stating the same. But unfortunately the JCA can go against medical advice from the treating expert, but I do have a lot of comprehensive evidence submitted. The Job Capacity Assessment is a medico-legal process in essence. You'll have excellent grounds for appeal if your IP application is rejected because there will now be two assessors with opinions at odds. All the JCA can do when going against your specialists is that the JCA is an expert in assessment. You have one of those also.
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Post by bear on Mar 10, 2021 21:11:19 GMT 7
Yes I’m hoping the medico-legal reports do hold some weight with the JCA seeing as these guys are paid to get us back to work. I have supplied two IME from seperate consultant psychiatrist both stating permanent work incapacity. And my own doctors report dated 26/02/2021 stating the same. But unfortunately the JCA can go against medical advice from the treating expert, but I do have a lot of comprehensive evidence submitted. The Job Capacity Assessment is a medico-legal process in essence. You'll have excellent grounds for appeal if your IP application is rejected because there will now be two assessors with opinions at odds. All the JCA can do when going against your specialists is that the JCA is an expert in assessment. You have one of those also. Welcome to the forum @cert Below is a link to a thread you may find thought provoking and somewhat interesting. dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/6447/advise-on-assessment-memberNote:- Re the JCA assessors. While they may be experts in THEIR own fields; they may not have any grounding in the particular disability of their client they happen to be assessing on any given day. Cheers bear
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 4:01:31 GMT 7
The Job Capacity Assessment is a medico-legal process in essence. You'll have excellent grounds for appeal if your IP application is rejected because there will now be two assessors with opinions at odds. All the JCA can do when going against your specialists is that the JCA is an expert in assessment. You have one of those also. Welcome to the forum @cert Below is a link to a thread you may find thought provoking and somewhat interesting. dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/6447/advise-on-assessment-memberNote:- Re the JCA assessors. While they may be experts in THEIR own fields; they may not have any grounding in the particular disability of their client they happen to be assessing on any given day. Cheers bear This is the exact quote stated in of of my medico-legal in regards to the question my capacity in the open labour market “ The patient has no current work capacity, he is totally unfit for any employment given the history provided at interview. Patient presents with a stateof seemingly permanent work incapacity as a consequence of his chronic PTSD.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 9:09:00 GMT 7
Just received my phone call to book in for my JCA, Wednesday 30 March @ 1500hrs. Just being conducted via telephone no face to face yet still with Covid restrictions in place.
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Post by genx on Mar 19, 2021 12:35:13 GMT 7
Just received my phone call to book in for my JCA, Wednesday 30 March @ 1500hrs. Just being conducted via telephone no face to face yet still with Covid restrictions in place. Good luck! Probably better that way. From reading the AAT decisions, if you 'present well' at an in-person JCA, it is held against you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 12:41:34 GMT 7
Just received my phone call to book in for my JCA, Wednesday 30 March @ 1500hrs. Just being conducted via telephone no face to face yet still with Covid restrictions in place. Good luck! Probably better that way. From reading the AAT decisions, if you 'present well' at an in-person JCA, it is held against you. I just went through my supplied evidence and I counted the following 17 times stated by 4 different psychiatrist. Permanent disability with no future work capacity.
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Post by genx on Mar 19, 2021 13:21:08 GMT 7
I just went through my supplied evidence and I counted the following 17 times stated by 4 different psychiatrist. Permanent disability with no future work capacity. You will get IP for sure. Do you know if they tell you right away after your IP JCA?
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Post by tasjo on Mar 19, 2021 13:39:10 GMT 7
Just received my phone call to book in for my JCA, Wednesday 30 March @ 1500hrs. Just being conducted via telephone no face to face yet still with Covid restrictions in place. Good luck! Probably better that way. From reading the AAT decisions, if you 'present well' at an in-person JCA, it is held against you. Particularly with an 'invisible' illness, or if you present better in certain situations. I know for me this was difficult because I was so used to needing to not show my disability at work.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 13:41:22 GMT 7
I just went through my supplied evidence and I counted the following 17 times stated by 4 different psychiatrist. Permanent disability with no future work capacity. You will get IP for sure. Do you know if they tell you right away after your IP JCA? I doubt they would tell me straight away unless that person is feeling kind and makes some comment like they will be supporting my application for I/P. But someone else still had to make the final decision. My fingers are🤞🏻 I’m just hoping the JCA for I/P is more focus based on the medical evidence supplied addressing the 5 year requirement not so much focused on eligibility for DSP as that was only granted last month. I’m hoping much focus is on the paperwork Centrelink international send out for treating specialist to complete.
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Post by bear on Mar 19, 2021 13:43:41 GMT 7
I just went through my supplied evidence and I counted the following 17 times stated by 4 different psychiatrist. Permanent disability with no future work capacity. You will get IP for sure. Do you know if they tell you right away after your IP JCA? They never tell you straight away because the assessor is only that; the assessor. The paperwork needs to be shuffled off to the decision maker who will decide and advise at their leisure; possibly a matter of weeks, sometimes a couple of months. Making a query in 2-3 weeks though, won't hurt your case. Cheers bear
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 13:53:31 GMT 7
You will get IP for sure. Do you know if they tell you right away after your IP JCA? The never tell you straight away because the assessor is only that; the assessor. The paperwork needs to be shuffled off to the decision maker who will decide and advise at their leisure; possibly a matter of weeks, sometimes a couple of months. Making a query in 2-3 weeks though, won't hurt your case. Cheers bear That’s it Bear has to shuffle along the conveyer belt until it reaches the final destination. Yeah I’ll be following up 2 weeks after the JCA, I feel more nervous waiting for this to happen than I did for the whole DSP process. As stated before I literally could not provide any more information than I have and all stating permanent work incapacity including two separate IME, but with Centrelink it all comes down to one person disregarding the 5 treating specialist reports.
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Post by genx on Mar 19, 2021 14:30:18 GMT 7
Particularly with an 'invisible' illness, or if you present better in certain situations. I know for me this was difficult because I was so used to needing to not show my disability at work. Tell me about it. I'm used to hiding my PTSD from people also. Years ago my doctor advised me to inform my girlfriend about my PTSD, claiming that people are more understanding than I might believe. The day after I told her about the PTSD and the symptoms, she broke up with me. I've confided in other people and it never works out. Keeping it low-key seems to work best.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 19:31:27 GMT 7
Particularly with an 'invisible' illness, or if you present better in certain situations. I know for me this was difficult because I was so used to needing to not show my disability at work. Tell me about it. I'm used to hiding my PTSD from people also. Years ago my doctor advised me to inform my girlfriend about my PTSD, claiming that people are more understanding than I might believe. The day after I told her about the PTSD and the symptoms, she broke up with me. I've confided in other people and it never works out. Keeping it low-key seems to work best. It places a big responsibility on a mentally unwell person, to justify the invisible injury for something as important as a JCA and I/P I feel It’s so important that a treating specialist report should hold the majority of weight for this. Especially when a 20 point severe impairment basically means you have significant disturbed thoughts but you have to present for something so important as a JCA.
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Post by nomadic on Mar 19, 2021 21:35:57 GMT 7
As I have said many times. The more disabled you are the luckier you are. To be deemed manifestly disabled is a great thing. DSP & UP guaranteed. When I told my lawyer "I don't feel disabled". he told me never to ever say that again. Coping with disabilities is a breeze compared to dealing with Centrelink. nothing has been harder for me in 26 years now. Losing half your bodily functions is far easier to accept than the torture of the Centrelink/politicians Gestapo.
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