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Post by bear on May 27, 2023 8:46:20 GMT 7
I'de say it's because the Gov. is now ALP. More compasion if you like. Cheers J It was Labor brought in those horrendous rules under Gillard JJJ88
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Post by bear on May 27, 2023 8:57:42 GMT 7
A GP assessment would suffice but; why not fully update your history and give them your specialist's most current diagnoses as well. In our experience, the more you put into it, the better your chances of a successful application first time around. Eg. As there's no limit on the number of times you can apply; would it make sense to only go with your GP, only to be denied. Personally I'd consider that outcome frustrating, knowing that I'd definitely be reapplying and knowing I'd be going back to my GP as well as to my specialists. When your file arrives you'll be able to prepare with confidence. You'll be able to peruse the tables, make notes to help your doctors use Centrelink's own descriptors to strengthen your case, by having your doctors use their own words to describe your situation; verbatim from the tables. The points and associated tables on my file were written in the LH margin and required several readings to find, and ascertain exactly where I stood in the scheme of things and although I had points spread over several tables, the highest majority were only in one. Note:- The lower points 5 & 10 from memory were discontinued from 2012 onwards. Never having been reviewed is great, for the reason previously outlined. The possibility of having been declared as NFWC. Fully upgrading you medical will bring it up to the latest modern medical standard, which is what they need to do your JCA to the best of their ability. "hoping centrelink will be kind towards me *fingers crossed*"; me too. Knowing you've got freedom to come and go at will is better than winning lotto imo. Cheers 🐻 Well I must have got jackpot because that's what the kind man at international services said, "You can come and go as you please". Dan, I found that having some sort of support worker with you helps with the JCA interview. In my case it was a mental health nurse who knew me well and helped me answer the questions in the interview. That was before I even knew about the FOI file that you can get. Mind you to qualify you need 20 points and apparently I'm closer to 30 points. Anyway good luck. Cheers J The the kind man at international services said, "You can come and go as you please" because he knew his stuff JJJ88 . Those with DSP/UP don't need to advise travel movements; whereas OAPers, automatically granted UP/IP are requested to do so.The inconsistencies are staggering. Though according to recent posts the requirement to do so, is no longer strictly enforced. A member with UP/IP was asked to explain their lack of advising one time. Paraphrasing their response; "I've got unlimited portability and don't need to." "Umm err, you are correct." Cheers 🐻
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Post by tasjo on May 27, 2023 14:50:37 GMT 7
Note that under the 2012 Impairment Tables a Mental Health Incapacity must be diagnosed by either a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist... without it your disability is not classed as diagnosed (and this could put your DSP in serious jeopardy if your disability falls into this category).
Also, one major difference between the pre-2012 and 2012 Tables is the removal of the 15 points category.
Not so relevant for UP/IP but very relevant when undergoing any kind of reassessment of your DSP. For example, if you previously had 15 points on 1 table pre 2012, and 5 points on 2 (or even 3 other) Tables... you would be unlikely to see the 15 increased to 20. Much more likely it would be decreased to 10, and while 5 still exists they may be removed. This is how the DSP becomes under threat for those not assessed under the 2012 Tables who are unaware of their status before applying for UP/IP and hence triggering a reassessment.
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Post by JJJ88 on May 27, 2023 21:05:14 GMT 7
I'de say it's because the Gov. is now ALP. More compasion if you like. Cheers J It was Labor brought in those horrendous rules under Gillard Julia Gillard was good though, the first Aussie female PM established the NDIS and A$1.00 was buying US$1.10 during her time. Cheers J
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Post by anthonydsp on Jun 4, 2023 17:26:47 GMT 7
Hi Dan did you end up applying for unlimited portability keep us updated on your progress if you applied for it
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Post by dan42 on Jun 5, 2023 20:19:40 GMT 7
Hello all, I'm still waiting for the files from my FOI request. I'll definitely keep you all posted!
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Post by scuzzy on Jun 27, 2023 0:00:14 GMT 7
I'de say it's because the Gov. is now ALP. More compasion if you like. Cheers J Don't forget, the post 2012 toughening of the rules and crackdown on portability happened under Labor. Also (counter-intuitively) it was a Liberal government that originally made DSP and portability easier to get (1990's Howard Gov). From my observations over the years, Services Australia (and the previous iterations of the Gov Dept that runs Centrelink) march to the beat of their own drum, transcending whoever happens to be in Government. It's probably the most 'Deep State' Gov Depts in Australia, as the Royal Commission into Robodebt revealed.
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Post by JJJ88 on Jun 27, 2023 1:17:11 GMT 7
According to what I've read, the Government of the day which is/was the ALP, commenced the Invalidity Pension way back in 1908 after Federation. The Invalidity Pension was then re-named in the 90's as you said into what we now call the DSP. Services Australia are paying the bills as far as i'm concerned. A non partisan view is probably the best way to look at things perhaps.
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