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Post by muso on Jan 8, 2012 11:41:14 GMT 7
I have read the press release which tells of a change to DSP payments overseas. After July of 2012, people with a permanent condition will be able to live permanently overseas. This to me seems a significant improvement. The criteria for evaluating 'no work capacity' are not yet defined, but here is hoping. It would be a good idea to contact one's local member and the minister to support this change. Does anyone have any additional info on this? Budget 2011-12: Indefinite portability for permanently disabled Disability Support Pension recipients who have no work capacity www.humanservices.gov.au/corporate/publications-and-resources/budget/measures/disability-and-illness/9888
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Post by Banjo on Jan 9, 2012 12:02:45 GMT 7
I have spoken to three Centrelink officers this week, one personally and two at International Services on the phone. All three said they had not received any information regarding the portability changes.
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Post by rowdy on Jan 9, 2012 12:17:10 GMT 7
I have spoken to three Centrelink officers this week, one personally and two at International Services on the phone. All three said they had not received any information regarding the portability changes. Hi Banjo Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the SSAct need to be amended to allow for unlimited portability.
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Post by immiadvice on Jan 9, 2012 13:31:52 GMT 7
I have spoken to three Centrelink officers this week, one personally and two at International Services on the phone. All three said they had not received any information regarding the portability changes. Hi Banjo Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the SSAct need to be amended to allow for unlimited portability. Yes it does. Changes not yet before parliament. I wouldn't expect to see any changes to the act by 2013 knowing how long it takes to get anything through parliament.
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Post by rodcourt49 on Jan 9, 2012 14:46:06 GMT 7
..the amendment will be known as 'indefinite portability' and as stated before here you must apply for it and meet the yet to be established criteria on a case by case assessment. Two of the main points will be- (a) unemployable, (b) have a permanent injury.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 9, 2012 16:15:54 GMT 7
I have spoken to three Centrelink officers this week, one personally and two at International Services on the phone. All three said they had not received any information regarding the portability changes. Hi Banjo Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the SSAct need to be amended to allow for unlimited portability. This is what it says in the above link. From 1 July 2012, people with a permanent disability who receive Disability Support Pension (DSP) and have no future work capacity and who wish to leave Australia to be with friends and family will remain payable outside Australia indefinitely.Now I make no pretence of being able to foresee the future or claims to infallibility, but that does not mention anything about an amendment going before parliament to be voted on. It's certainly not wishful thinking on my behalf either, I'll almost certainly be too old to reap much benefit from it. Edit: I have letters on the issue to Minister Macklin and Senator Fifield in the pipe line which hopefully will be answered when they have digested their Christmas pudding. (Provided no one has choked on a threepenny bit).
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Post by rodcourt49 on Jan 9, 2012 16:40:32 GMT 7
..when i had my telephone interview last month International Services clearly stated that this easing of the rule would be as a result of legislation change..so buggered if i know?
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Post by muso on Jan 10, 2012 11:56:39 GMT 7
I sense a small amount of doubt here, fair enough, but this looks like the best news I have heard for a while. I decided to sell my house in oz and move to Thailand to live of my savings rather than struggle on the dsp. If this works out I will return and reapply for the dsp and then come back to Thailand, I hope. How about we each write a supporting letter to the minister and to our mps asking for support for these changes?
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Post by zorro1 on Jan 10, 2012 12:14:17 GMT 7
Im not much good at it so can some one supply a template? sounds like a good idea
Muso
You will have to be careful what you do with the money from the house sale, C/L will expect you to buy another house i suspect to get the DSP
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Post by muso on Jan 10, 2012 14:14:03 GMT 7
'buy another house'! It just does not get easy. I hope something good comes out of this. I simply outlined my situation, and stating that this was a fair change to the Act. Hopefully something good will come out of this.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 10, 2012 14:24:45 GMT 7
I wouldn't sell up until I was on the DSP, and then I would keep it as long as I could. A house in Australia is pretty good proof of residency even if you rent it out. .
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Post by zorro1 on Jan 10, 2012 22:48:56 GMT 7
According to C/L if you sell your home they will give you 12 months grace to find another. However after that they will reduce your DSP back as far back as zero depending on the Cash at hand.
You need to be on the DSP before you sell your home.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 11, 2012 3:10:09 GMT 7
Im not much good at it so can some one supply a template? sounds like a good idea Give me a few days, I'll get back to you on this.
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Post by muso on Jan 11, 2012 10:42:24 GMT 7
Thanks for the info about the house, never knew. There is just no end to the rules and regs, I never felt safer. I look at folk from other western countries, such as Norway or even France, who live in the 3rd world on a pension of some sort. Their home countries, so they tell me, encourage their retired citizens to live elsewhere as it is cheaper all around. Norway, for example, pays for medical treatment in 3rd world countries as it is considerably cheaper to have these services provided locally rather than in Norway--everyone saves.
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Post by latindancer on Jan 11, 2012 12:06:19 GMT 7
Now that is interesting ! Perhaps someone could explain this to our government ?
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