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Post by immiadvice on Feb 3, 2012 16:37:18 GMT 7
Where are the savings by dragging my family and I a quarter of the way around the globe Ms Macklin? I reckon when I lived in (according to my file) Malaysia, Singapore and Cambodia I was paid around $1000 - $1400 a month depending on what year. I didn't use Medicare or any other service. Silly laws  ed my (and my families) life around. I can't work. According to my doctors and agreed to by Centrelink I am severely and permanently disabled and only likely to get worse over time. Things are different as my travel has stopped. I am in Australia permanently. With partner and 2 children. Whilst my DSP has dropped a little as I get the couple rate my partner gets parenting payment (partnered) which more then makes up for it. Not to mention FTB A and B for the children as well as rent assistance. I am enrolled in Tafe part time and receive the education supplement as well as the mobility allowance. So the welfare income for the household is just shy of $1000 a week. Nearly 4 times previously. Not to mention the $250 or so a month my psychiatrist gets from Medicare every month for seeing me. Just noting that this is not why I am on the DSP. Or the $40 the GP gets for seeing anyone in my family from Medicare each visit. There is $100+ a month from PBS to subsidize my medication. The english school that they pay for my partner and nearly $400 a week the government pays to put my children in childcare while we study. Ridiculous to think there was savings by bringing us back. |
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Post by rowdy on Feb 3, 2012 18:47:49 GMT 7
Where are the savings by dragging my family and I a quarter of the way around the globe Ms Macklin? I reckon when I lived in (according to my file) Malaysia, Singapore and Cambodia I was paid around $1000 - $1400 a month depending on what year. I didn't use Medicare or any other service. Silly laws ed my (and my families) life around. Now, I can't work. According to my doctors and agreed to by Centrelink I am severely and permanently disabled and only likely to get worse over time. Now things are different. I am in Australia permanently. With partner and 2 children. Whilst my DSP has dropped a little as I get the couple rate my partner gets parenting payment which ore then maskes up for it. Not to mention FTB A and B for the children as well as rent assistance. I am enrolled in Tafe part time and receive the education supplement as well as the mobility allowance. So the welfare income for the household is just shy of $1000 a week. Nearly 4 times previously. Not to mention the $250 or so a month my psychiatrist gets from Medicare every month for seeing me. Just noting that this is not why I am on the DSP. Or the $40 the GP gets for seeing anyone in my family from Medicare each visit. There is $100+ a month from PBS to subsidize my medication. The english school that they pay for my partner and nearly $400 a week the government pays to put my children in childcare while we study. Ridiculous to think there was savings by bringing us back. Thanks Immiadvice, One of the best posts on this forum yet that describes the ridiculousness and impact of Macklin's amendments. Whilst I am at it, I wonder how Hugh Borrowman is doing (given that he had the special amendment - just for him). |
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Post by Banjo on Feb 3, 2012 19:39:32 GMT 7
I've given up trying to read any method into their madness at all.
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Post by howdo on Feb 4, 2012 8:33:27 GMT 7
It really doesn't make any logical sense at all.  |
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Post by zorro1 on Feb 4, 2012 9:24:56 GMT 7
great post Immiadvice. its a shame we cant get a full page in the daily telegraph in an open letter to ms maklin using your post .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 7:50:38 GMT 7
they dont give a about the money, its all about the tax paying voters that see the government cracking down on us low life scum that dont pay tax and cost them money, saving money does not come into it,it never does about any thing government do, just look at how they wast it, it makes my blood boil, |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 15:20:41 GMT 7
they dont give a f*** about the money, its all about the tax paying voters that see the government cracking down on us low life scum that dont pay tax and cost them money, saving money does not come into it,it never does about any thing government do, just look at how they wast it, it makes my blood boil, Yes l guess that's why they want to extend the basics card and make it compulsory it costs $6,000 per person to put them on income management so it makes no economic sense ,so they don't care about the money its only to punish and humiliate people on welfare, l guess work for the dole is another example |
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Post by aussieinusa on Nov 23, 2013 8:04:08 GMT 7
Yes, they do seem to have designed the system to make it much harder to get welfare than it is to just go out and get a job... if you are actually able to work, have some kind of job skills someone would pay for, companies are actually hiring right then, and you're not a member of a group that gets discriminated against in this country, like oldies, darkies, westies, girlies (who go into blokey fields or for exec positions), crazies, cripples, etc. etc. (Excuse the language; a lot of those are words that've been used to describe me!) The system is designed so people who could get a job look at all the work they'll have to do to get CL and how little they'll get paid in return and say, "screw this, I'll just get a job." The flip side being, the actual "deserving" poor have to jump through all the same hoops to get any $$ out of CL, and some of us just aren't able to. So for people with very limited capacity, dealing w CL crap takes up all our energy, so there's nothing left over for actually improving our lot in life. This article about what it's like to deal with CL is 10 years old: www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/08/03/1059849264548.html...and if anything, the system has gotten worse since then, not better! |
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Post by Banjo on Nov 23, 2013 8:21:28 GMT 7
The system is designed so people who could get a job look at all the work they'll have to do to get CL and how little they'll get paid in return and say, "screw this, I'll just get a job."
Or steal, or sell drugs, or bludge on family or partners when there are no jobs available.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 11:14:43 GMT 7
now its been suggested that the retirement age be lifted to 70, and it will come in the end ,sooner or later, but of cores if your a rich pollie you can retire early,
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Post by ding on Feb 4, 2014 10:15:42 GMT 7
That article in The Age is hilarious - and so true!
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Post by Denis-NFA on Feb 4, 2014 23:02:31 GMT 7
That article in The Age is hilarious - and so true! It's the funniest thing I've read in a long time. |
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Post by Denis-NFA on Feb 5, 2014 7:12:14 GMT 7
With all due respect to the employees in jobnetwork providers but I am not sure that they understand that they have been employed to reduce the unemployment numbers. In an era when you can do all your business with a bank over the internet it is quite amazing that you cannot do business with Centrelink by computer. JobNetwork providers are only there to teach people how to sharpen a pencil and have no idea about either establishing a business nor operating one. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 7:36:32 GMT 7
With all due respect to the employees in jobnetwork providers but I am not sure that they understand that they have been employed to reduce the unemployment numbers. In an era when you can do all your business with a bank over the internet it is quite amazing that you cannot do business with Centrelink by computer. JobNetwork providers are only there to teach people how to sharpen a pencil and have no idea about either establishing a business nor operating one. But they sure know how to line their pockets with taxpayers money, look at all the operators of the networks that have become multi millionaers |
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