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Post by spaceyone on Mar 10, 2012 9:14:03 GMT 7
I am sitting here stunned, and almost speechless. I have just phoned my GP to make an appointment for next week, and once she took my name, stated that the GP has made a note not to accept bookings from me.
I have not done anything to him to bring this on. When I had to cancel an appointment recently, I had phoned to let them know.
I had been to see him just over a week ago, to resume where we had left off when I went bush. Shortly after I relocated, he had given me a referral for blood tests, to be able to make his own diagnosis of me. He pointed out that that was a year ago.
I had attended a pathology lab twice here in my new area, and they refused to do the test. On one occassion because I had had a cup of tea before hand. I was supposed to fast. The next time, they refused to do it because it was 10.30 am, and they refused to believe that I had only just got out of bed and driven the 20 minutes to get there, without eating or drinking.
I threw the referral on the fire in disgust, and gave up. I sat out in the bush in our tin shed, and monitored my symptoms myself, without the burdeon of having to work as a cleaner. My symptoms continued, deteriorated, and since moving back to the suburbs, have flared up again worse than before.
I advised the GP when I saw him recently, that I was back to get a new referral for the blood tests and that I wanted new scans on my body, since my old ones were now 18 months old. I was hoping that I would get honest ones, after suspecting that Centrelink had managed to tamper with the results of the ones I had while in the process of trying to prove my claim for DSP. He didn't give me the referrals, yet.
My Osteopath and I could see quite clearly that the written reports didn''t match the images in the last series I had done. Each time I went to have more scans, I could feel the staff there knew something that I did not. I suspected that I had been flagged as a rorter or faker.
I was granted under my last care package, a few thousand dollars worth of work on my teeth. I didn't have any major problems so hadn't used it. Then a filling broke, along with part of the tooth, as so I have recently tried to get it fixed.
When I contacted the dentist I had been referred to, she did state that they were very busy and that I should go elsewhere. I replied that I was unable to, as my paperwork referred me to them specifically. When I gave her my name, she paused for a few moments, then gave me a booking a month away.
I had been in pain from the tooth for a month by then, as it started to hurt just as we were moving house, and then Christmas was upon us. When I stated that it would be very uncomfortable for me to wait that long, she replied that the appointment would only be for a check up anyway, but since I knew what I wanted, he might pull it out.
All he did on the day, was to clean my teeth, and then sit at his computer working out how to spend all the funds I had been allocated. He advised me to make another booking on way out, for the extraction. Seven weeks! Made longer by the fact that he was going on holidays during that time.
I have a week and a half to wait for the extraction appointment. The pain on that side of my face has been increasing greatly over the past few weeks, mainly I guess when I forget to dose it with antiseptic. It is in my ear canal, and has begun to feel like I have a bone spur growing on my jaw pivot.
The pain I have been putting down to the tooth, is probably from my joint arthritis instead. The dental plan for dsp'ers is so that those in pain, don't have to bear the pain of any dental problems on top of their others.
Now my GP suddenly doesn't want to see me. I couldn't sleep last night, and was crying from the amount of pain I am in. I already have a referal for a jaw x-ray from the dentist, so will use that to see what is going on in there.
I applied for a two-year DSP eighteen months ago. I will come up for review in July this year. I want new scans, hopefully with honest reports this time, to prove that I have deteriorated in that time. I also need blood tests to check my rheumatoid factors, among other things.
Has Centrelink influenced Medicare and organised to deny me the ability to not only prove my case, but just like last time, deny me proper diagnosis and therefore treatment?
This will now have to be the main focus of my next JCA. That if I am not able to prove my current condition, they will just have to pass me based on the fact that I did qualify last time.
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Post by Banjo on Mar 10, 2012 11:56:57 GMT 7
Can you go to the nearest dental hospital? I thought they all did emergency extractions straight away, part of their code of ethics or something. I'm stunned your regular GP would refuse to see you, maybe you could ask the AMA in your state for a reason if he refuses to give you one. I don't think Medicare can influence doctors. Just refuse to pay and if that happened the doctor would bill you personally.
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Post by Banker on Mar 10, 2012 12:17:39 GMT 7
This is from Yahoo answers, I have noticed that many questions on yahoo answers about Centrelink are deleted with in a couple hours? Yes and Marion is no longer replying Q...Does centrelink cover dental work such as braces? A....Centerlink dose not cover any dental work at all. Medicare dose to a certain extent eg; If you have diabetes or certain other illnesses medicare will cover costs up to $4250. Your local GP has the proper paperwork to submit for funding. au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120309055535AATLQhU
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 10, 2012 14:06:20 GMT 7
I forgot to ad that I didn't take the GP's crap. I asked why he had banned me. The receptionist suggested that maybe I had not been there for a while. I informed her that I had been recently, and that he had given me a referral for blood tests.
Not wanting to get into an argument with me, she booked the appointment. It is at 5.15 on Monday, so hopefully I will be his last one for the day, and I will have a chance to fill him in on who the fakers are in the case of Centrelink vs Spacey.
I also plan to ask him to put his request in writing, but doubt that he will go that far. A friend has just suggested I take a tape recorder, so I will do that as well.
I still need to get a copy of the last Specialist's report that was sent to that GP, and possibly some antibiotics for if this pain is just an ulcer.
Those government dentists had stuffed me around for years with a similar situation. Half a broken metal filling, which they would fill the other half of the hole with a white filling. Within weeks, the two would pull apart and the white one fall out.
The last time I let them do that to me, the government dentist at Tweed Heads Hospital didn't even clean it out first, just filled it and scoffed that I should start saving up for a crown for it.
The numbness in my face began a few months after that, and my health went down hill. I finally paid $220 to have it pulled by a private dentist a few years later, just after getting onto DSP and because I was rent-free since I was homeless. Six months later, I then had the same situation start on the opposite tooth.
Which is why I had chosen from the beginning to have it pulled rather than filled, and by a private dentist.
Thanks to the care-plan the GP had made, I will also be getting my remaining three metal fillings replaced, and a crown, along with the extraction.
I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, so am still patiently waiting for my new dentist to find the time for me. As we were parting, he had suggested I could come back and get a script for antibiotics from him if I got to a situation of needing them. How do I do that, when I have to wait so long to see him?
The system at GP bulk billing clinics these days is that they claim your payment the moment you arrive. They had automated it recently, so that when you came out you pushed an ok button on a device like an eftos machine, and that would trigger your receipt and their proof. Now, you don't even have to push a button when leaving, or get a receipt, so you have no chance to deny the GP payment.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 11, 2012 5:13:53 GMT 7
I was speaking to a male nurse friend last night. He tells me that a GP is not allowed to do this to me, and has offerred to come to the appointment with me.
However, during that conversation I recalled the real reason I didn't bother going back to that doctor, or any doctors during the 10 months I spent living 50kms from civilisation.
When I had seen that GP's nurse, to apply for another care plan which entitles me to see my Osteopath at a discounted rate, she had written on the paper work that I was being treated for alcoholism. Quite strange considering I don't drink at all, not even socially.
At the time I instructed the GP that I wanted the lie removed from my paperwork. My medicare records were audited last year, and so that would have been read by the Centrelink spies who audited them.
Sounds like it is time I lodged a complaint with the medical authorities about the nurse. My friend has said that is a serious thing that she has done to me, and will face consequences.
If the people pulling their strings are untouchable by us when we want justice, it looks like it will be the puppets who loose their livelihood.
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Post by latindancer on Mar 11, 2012 8:07:19 GMT 7
When I had seen that GP's nurse, to apply for another care plan which entitles me to see my Osteopath at a discounted rate, she had written on the paper work that I was being treated for alcoholism. Quite strange considering I don't drink at all, not even socially. I've learned to never attribute to conspiracy what can be satisfactorily explained by human stupidity or carelessness. She may have got confused between you and someone else. Be careful of getting a major infection from that tooth, Spacey ! Infections can spread to the blood (even if you are treating it topically), and then it is really VERY serious. You have my sympathy for what you are going through. Recently I went to see a career guidance counsellor and she picked up that I had a lot of underlying anger in me. I am like yourself, in that I do not suffer fools gladly, and when this counsellor was not focusing on what I was saying I got a little irritable. It is possible that your GP has done the same, and doesn't want to deal with your irritation. I do know that you stand up for yourself a lot, and you may have gone a little too far with him once ....
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 11, 2012 13:11:32 GMT 7
I went up to an after hours GP today, and got some antibotics. He thinks it is just an abcess and the pills are working now.
I haven't had to have a go at that GP about anything, at all. This banning comes out of the blue, and for no reason.
However, my nurse friend also explained that the two reasons given to me for not doing the blood tests the GP requested, were bullshit, and they should have been done.
Spacey doesn't get paranoid. Spacey is just very intuitive and analytical. My nurse friend now agrees that something is going on, after witnessing behaviour which is blatantly corrupt, according to their medical guidelines.
The fact that I needed emergency treatment, and my GP tried to deny it to me, just makes things worse for him when I now lodge a complaint about his practice. Maybe it will force him to reveal who pulled the string in the first place.
I don't like having dramas, and don't look for them. But when even the medical profession can be roped into harassing a sick person, to protect a corrupt organisation, then that gets me fired up.
They poke me a few times, before I retaliate. They poke me a few more times, before I retaliate with another complaint. It is them who is keeping this game going, I have been sick of it for a long time.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 12, 2012 6:59:49 GMT 7
I rang Medicare earlier today. They now answer the phone by saying "Department of Human Services Medicare Program".
You want to tell me again that they are not behind my sudden banning from my GP?
I have instructed the GP's staff to print out the referral for my final 2 Osteopathic treatments, and post it to me. The clinic manager said she was unable to do that, as I had to be reviewed first, and that the final two of the 5 were not automatic.
Medicare have advised that I was entitled to 5 all along with no review required at all during the process. I suggested that rorting must be the reason they tried to force me into another appointment with the nurse.
I have rung the GP's clinic back, and when the office manager took too long to come to the phone this time, left a message informing them of that, and to print the damn form out, and to ring me back once they had.
My GP's clinic has never seen me go off, but they are seeing it today.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 12, 2012 12:56:48 GMT 7
The plot thickens. My GP has gone all shy and secretive. I requested that his clinic print out one Specialist's Report for me, and generate the form I needed to receive my final two Osteopathic treatments.
They have refused to do both. They will only forward information to a new GP, once I have one. Funny thing is, everything they have on file came from scans of my own records. It is just the one document I am chasing. They told me I had no private right to it, that it would only be sent to a GP.
I phoned Medicare, who claimed they did not know what my rights were in that situation. The website of the Office of the Privacy Commissioner states that they don't have to give the file to me, although that would be unprofessional, and that I can request to have access to them on their own site. Go through them with the GP type thing.
My GP's clinic is now denying me this right. These clinics are paid a bonus to put people on a "Care Plan" which can only be renewed and changed yearly. So they have been paid the bonus for my care plan, but now don't want to monitor me in it, and have denied me the entitlements it was to give me.
They have become shy of me at that clinic, since I have bought up a few things about their service, especially after I mentioned how long their dentist mate next door had kept me waiting for my tooth extraction.
I just booked the jaw x-ray he had given me a referal for. I wasn't planning to have it, as I have one that was once taken as part of some neck X-rays. I didn't want to expose myself to extra radiation, just when i am planning to have new scans of my illness affected areas.
I looked at the dentist's plan for me, for the first time since he outlined it verbally while I was in his chair. He told me that I would be getting one crown. His paperwork says I will be getting three. Hmmmmmmm.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 12, 2012 13:03:22 GMT 7
Can I get access to my medical records?If your medical records are held by a private sector organisation, such as a doctor in private practice or by a private hospital, as a general rule, you have a right to gain access to all the information held about you. You may exercise this right in a number of ways, depending on, for example, the sort of information you have asked for, the type of organisation and the way the organisation holds its records. Getting access may include looking over the records, or taking a copy of those records with you, or having them explained to you. In some cases you may need to reach an arrangement about access with the organisation holding the records. Where the information in your records is incorrect, you can ask the organisation to take reasonable steps to correct that information. There are some limitations on your right of access. These may apply, for example, to information held before 21 December 2001. Access to your medical records can be refused in a number of situations, which are set out in National Privacy Principle 6 (NPP 6). These situations include where giving access would pose a serious threat to the life and health of anyone, or where refusing access is required by law. For a full discussion of your right to get access to, and to correct, your medical records and of NPP 6 generally, see the Guidelines on Privacy in the Private Health Sector. If your medical records are held by a Commonwealth agency, generally you can have access to those records. For more information, see Plain English Guidelines to Information Privacy Principles 4 -7. www.privacy.gov.au/faq/health/q5
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Post by zorro1 on Mar 12, 2012 19:09:16 GMT 7
A few years back I would have said that a doctor refusing to see a patient would be kind of illegal but thats not the case now.
Im a member of several forums mostly to do with health and its common practice for a doctor to wipe a patient if they drop away from treatment plans or are perceived to only visit for a pension report
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 12, 2012 19:24:26 GMT 7
Well then, the onus should be on them to prove that you are only after pension reports, and not a genuine case. They shouldn't be allowed to just dump you based on an unproven and personal decision.
Which is where my GP just screwed up. It is very illegal of them to deny someone emergency treatment, and since my jaw was so sore, I was in need of such. My nurse friend wanted to take me to emergency at the local hospital the same night that I had rung the GP.
I also have proof that I went to another surgery to obtain diagnosis the next day, and picked up the pills immediately.
I had mentioned to the quack last time I had seen him, that I had been treating myself with an alternative medicine, and that I could not keep relying on that. Therefore I was once again ready to let them try to work out what was wrong, and treat me appropriately.
That all leaves it open for GP's to dump patients based on Centrelink's say so. All they have to do is inform the GP the person is a faker, and the GP will dump them, rather than get in trouble for supporting them.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 12, 2012 19:29:23 GMT 7
Funny that the total of my dental work is to be 4,240.25, including the two extra crowns that were never mentioned or offered to me. All I asked for was to have one tooth extracted and one filling. Dental in (Tweed Heads). Rorting the government's dental system, while making their patients wait in pain? A Medical Centre in (Tweed Heads) makes corrupt records about their patients, and then fires the patient when they have a review coming up!
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 13, 2012 6:09:36 GMT 7
Well I have been on the phone this morning to the HCCC, and will be putting in an online complaint about the GP and the Dentist, once their website starts working again.
I have contacted another dentist, and could have had an appointment tomorrow. I have scheduled it for the end of this week, to allow the abcess to clear up.
Medicare told me that I just had to get a copy of the original referral back from the dentist, or the GP, and take it to the new place. Seems I could have spread the work around, meaning gone to a different dentist each time, until the funds were used up. Nice of the dentist to advise me of that, when they could not fit me in quickly.
So, I have rung the dentist and they don't want to give their copy back to me, or even a photocopy of it. I have rung the GP, and their staff say they are not allowed to talk to me today, and have hung up the phone on me.
Medicare is still confused as to why the GP only allocated me 3 visits to the Osteopath, and can't see why they are refusing to release the other two. Well they were willing to yesterday, if I came to see their lying bully of a nurse. I declined to do that, and asked that they merely print it out and leave it there for me to collect. They refused.
So again, I can go to another dentist, I still have two visits left with my Osteopath, and yet my GP is now denying me both.
Going off to lodge a complaint with the Privacy Commissioner's Office now.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 15, 2012 12:13:52 GMT 7
Ended up at ER last night. More antibiotics and morphine for the pain. Great medical and dental system we have.
Tooth finally being tended to tomorrow. Checked with the staller dentist's office yesterday, they have printed out my referal, after refusing to the day before, and have it all ready for me to pick up and take to a different dental clinic.
Must have had something to do with the message that I left on their machine after hours, informing them that they I had tried to dob them into Medicare, but Medicare wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
Also informed them that they have lost the job, because of the delays, and therefore should return the forms to me, so I could get the tooth fixed. They finally saw it my way.
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