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Post by Banjo on Aug 14, 2012 13:48:02 GMT 7
If you were living overseas you would get the OAP if you returned to Australia when you were 65 but you would then be grounded for 2 years before you could leave again.
My take on losing the DSP for non-residency is that you can apply for it again when you return to Australia but have to go onto NewStart and jump through the new impairment hoops etc,
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Post by hypoman on Aug 15, 2012 16:37:04 GMT 7
what if: if your cut off DSP you just stayed on newstart then when no one would employ you due to your disablility and being unable to work they would give up and just stick you back on DSP? I dont see how many of us (being disabled now) will be able to work anyway. and what sort of work would they give us? what if were injured on the job or hurt someone else? who would be responsible? Its obvious theres too many grey areas here in this whole work thing, let alone the residency rubbish...
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Post by Banjo on Aug 15, 2012 17:31:38 GMT 7
I would imagine it would be a nightmare to fall just short of the points required on the impairment tables. A job would be out of the question but you'd be stuck on NewStart with Centrelink threatening to cut you off all the time for not doing more to find work.
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Post by aussieinusa on Mar 27, 2013 8:44:24 GMT 7
"Any pensioners who have a need to travel overseas for short periods will still have access to the 13-week temporary absence rule."
It's an interesting example of how quickly they shift the goalposts... standing up in parliament to say, 'we're just closing a loophole, DSPers can still go overseas for 13 whole weeks to attend to family business if they need to, aren't we reasonable and even nice to the poor no-hoper unemployables... generous, even...'
How many weeks or months after this was tabled, did they announce they were cutting it back to 6 weeks??
How high are the chances that when this speech was made and the 13 week promise was made, they were already planning to cut it back to 6 weeks?? Which to anyone who's not a politician, is commonly called lying.
The series of changes they've made really amount to a sneaky overhaul of the system, and quotes like that when they said one thing while almost certainly already planning the next round of changes basically prove it.
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Post by fedup on May 4, 2013 18:40:21 GMT 7
Immigrations stance on residency
Resident enquiry Time allowed outside country. Resident return for NZ citizens with permanent residency. time out of country before being deemed a non resident?indefinite
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Post by Banjo on May 5, 2013 5:07:27 GMT 7
Immigration?
Centrelink don't give a rat's toss how Immigration, Medicare, the ATO et al define residency, all that matters is THEIR rules.
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Post by Banker on May 5, 2013 6:04:14 GMT 7
Immigration? Centrelink don't give a rat's toss how Immigration, Medicare, the ATO et al define residency, all that matters is THEIR rules. Residency my hated topic. I phoned Immigration in 2011, about this topic & they told me that there is different legislation for each department, ATO, C/L, etc etc. They were not interested in discussing it any further. There have been cases of people paying tax in Australia on investments but according to C/L they are not residents, you see they make up the rules as they go. Its called having Complete Control over your population.
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Post by fedup on May 5, 2013 12:32:18 GMT 7
Because no one arks up and confronts the bastards head on, .
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Post by Banjo on May 5, 2013 12:57:31 GMT 7
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Post by fedup on May 5, 2013 13:37:58 GMT 7
Hmmm
So we should all lay down and die,well not me
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Post by fedup on Jun 20, 2013 8:14:12 GMT 7
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Post by wild1 on Feb 21, 2014 11:47:53 GMT 7
Hi. Last week I made a call to C/l to ask i can temporarily leave Australia for how long I was first told 26 weeks I told this woman ummm no she transferred me, so seems i can travel and be payable for 6 weeks plus have a period of 13 weeks unpaid additionally, so its all about money and if I decide to be temporarily away Australia for say 12 weeks six weeks paid six not, what is the forums option of this, would it bite me in the arse. I try to inform C/l about me leaving the country but after multiple calls and disconnects I just leave,, i was under the impression informing c/l about leaving temporarily is advised not mandatory as I have done it often with no backlash.
let me know what you think is residency based on say 6 weeks trips paid,, and frequency but stay longer and not be paid,, you return new concession card and continue. are they happy for us to over stay cause we are not being subsidized by the government just be back before the unpaid 13 week period ends.
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Post by Banjo on Feb 21, 2014 12:35:08 GMT 7
I can see no problem with a 12 week absence from Australia under the current portability laws. If you plan on doing it regularly you could have residency issues.
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