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Post by zorro1 on May 5, 2012 15:01:41 GMT 7
Assuming the worst and we dont get permanent portability
will you do the 8 trips?
My situation is do the 8 trips. Assuming we fly with a frequant flers carrier eg Thai air
$750 return 6 hrs to perth standard fare.
That would be an extra $3000 a year of which there will be afree trip on frequant flyers
$3000- 750 ( freet trip)
so an extra $2250/ year
full use of platinum card lounges in BKK and Perth $ 100 a trip
$2250- $ 800 ( $800 is 8 x 100 free food/wine/breakfeast)
New grand totall
$1450 + one night in perth $80 + $400 cabs)
GRAND TOTAL
$1880/year or $36/week
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Post by Banjo on May 5, 2012 17:44:33 GMT 7
Nah, I think think I'll buy an orange robe, shave my head and eyebrows and set myself on fire under Centrelinks veranda.
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Post by Banker on May 5, 2012 17:45:57 GMT 7
Nah, I think think I'll buy an orange robe, shave my head and eyebrows and set myself on fire under Centrelinks veranda. While holding Julia in your arms. ;D
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Post by howdo on May 6, 2012 5:52:51 GMT 7
For the people who travel to Indonesia from the east coast, a relocation to Darwin and much cheaper flights, could make a big difference.
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Post by Banjo on May 6, 2012 6:44:48 GMT 7
I always had my eye on that situation, even traveling to places further north once you were in Bali you could train, bus and ferry from there relatively cheaply. I know a guy who comes down that way from Cebu to Singapore then gets the cheapest Tiger flight to Australia. What annoys me is he doesn't have to do it, he's on a veterans pension, he's just a cheap #***.
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Post by anotherdsp on May 6, 2012 8:02:51 GMT 7
yeah darwin denpassar return,prob easily less then 150$ max return booked in advance!!air asia
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Post by Banker on May 6, 2012 8:37:39 GMT 7
yeah darwin denpassar return,prob easily less then 150$ max return booked in advance!!air asia Air Asia ticket BKK to Bali and return for August about $200. including all taxes. The only down side is the flight leaves BKK at 6:30AM.. for me that means spending several hours at BKK airport before the flight. Flying on a budget is not easy at times.
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Post by bundyrum on May 11, 2012 4:08:46 GMT 7
A/asia finished Bali to Darwin...29th April...I came over the 27th..that day they cancelled my DSP..Jetstar and Skywest is prolly best now.I talked to A/asia on my trip...they said they may start the flights up again later,don't know when.It's hard because they have made benifits..Residency based..C/L.is based on non-contributy..not like the US..In other words it's not based on tax you have paid..so it gives them a lot of scope to change the rules..But they have realised they will save more money if we stay O/S..So just have to wait till new rules pass through Parliment.supposed to be by 30th June...we'll see..lol.
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Post by Banjo on May 11, 2012 5:08:25 GMT 7
When I lived in Cairns back in the day I knew a guy called bundymonster... just wondered if you were related.. . An interesting change mentioned in the budget is that old age pensioners living overseas will only get the full pension if they have worked 35 years in Australia. (Who dreamed up that number?) so someone like me who left school at 17 and went on the DSP at 48 will only get 31/35 of the total. The rules you refer to passed this week, I assume all it requires now is the GG's signature to become law. I posted the copy of the amendment yesterday if you want to have a look.
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Post by Denis-NFA on May 11, 2012 8:11:50 GMT 7
Hey Zorro1
I think I will take a modified version of Banjo's option.
I have already applied, 2011, for portability...directly to the Minister's office. Got a nice telephone call from her secretary, or someone there, explaining that 'the law' didn't allow them to do that just yet but it was going to change.
She asked if I wanted the application recorded on my file and I said yes.
My reason for applying direct is because in the social security 'LAW' there is a provision that gives the b*st*rds the right to make a decision on an individuals circumstances called 'An Act of Grace'. In other words they can do something even if it isn't specifically covered by the 'LAW' and it is lawful for them to make that decision.
Anyway.....like the song says....."I get knocked down but I get up again"
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Post by Banker on May 11, 2012 8:39:50 GMT 7
Hey Zorro1 I think I will take a modified version of Banjo's option. I have already applied, 2011, for portability...directly to the Minister's office. Got a nice telephone call from her secretary, or someone there, explaining that 'the law' didn't allow them to do that just yet but it was going to change. She asked if I wanted the application recorded on my file and I said yes. My reason for applying direct is because in the social security 'LAW' there is a provision that gives the b*st*rds the right to make a decision on an individuals circumstances called 'An Act of Grace'. In other words they can do something even if it isn't specifically covered by the 'LAW' and it is lawful for them to make that decision. Anyway.....like the song says....."I get knocked down but I get up again" Or like I say "You only fail when you stop trying" ;D
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Post by carvets on May 11, 2012 11:51:14 GMT 7
I wont be able to afford it,...even with Air Asias supa cheep , advance bookings . I could do a couple a year , but the 13 weeks just made it so practical with monthly rentals etc. I'll now look at bringing my Thai partner to live n Australia on a pension i can barely live on let alone 2 people,...in a country that has become unbearably expensive to live in.
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Post by carvets on May 11, 2012 12:19:42 GMT 7
An interesting change mentioned in the budget is that old age pensioners living overseas will only get the full pension if they have worked 35 years in Australia. (Who dreamed up that number?) so someone like me who left school at 17 and went on the DSP at 48 will only get 31/35 of the total. Its this point i am concerned about . I read the Jenny Macklin article where she says,.. " This change will apply from 1 January 2014 and will ensure that people who receive an Australian pension have lived in Australia for the majority of their working lives and contributed to the Australian economy and community." Do they count " working lives " as the amount of time you have spent actually working and paying taxes , or in the case of those with disabilities, is it the amount of time residing in the country whilst receiving benefits from the gov for being unable to work ? Being an Australian citizen, even whilst unable to work, one is still contributing to the economy and community. Also with with the GST there is no one in the country that isnt a tax payer anymore.
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Post by lostbaggage on May 11, 2012 16:32:16 GMT 7
The working life changes from 25 to 35 refers to the number of years residence from working age, not years worked. See below. Also note treatment of absences.
7.2.2.40 Australian Working Life ResidenceAccrual during absences from Australia (1.1.A.320) AWLR (1.1.A.340) is the number of months that a recipient has resided in Australia between the ages of 16 years and age pension age. Recipients may continue to accrue AWLR during an absence from Australia, PROVIDED THAT they are considered to be an Australian resident (section 7(2)) during the absence and they have not yet reached age pension age (section 23(5A) to section 23(5D)). This means that their proportional rate of pension must be reviewed annually while they are overseas. The term 'AWLR' represents residence during this period only - the person does not have to be in paid employment. Act reference: SSAct section 7(2) An Australian resident is a person who..., section 23(5A) to section 23(5D) Pension age Calculating Australian working life residence When calculating AWLR: • include the first and last days, for example: • 3 March to 2 April = 1 month exactly, and • 17/7/88 - 16/7/89 = 1 year exactly. • Add all periods of Australian residence (which may include periods of temporary absence). • When adding, divide excess days by 30 to make up months. • After final addition, round up zero - 29 days to one month. Examples: • 5/7/66 - 17/8/76 = 10 years 1 month 13 days • 19/9/85 - 16/3/90 = 4 years 5 months 29 days • a total of 14 years 6 months 42 days = 14 years 7 months 12 days • round up to 14 years 8 months = 176 months Recipients with partners A recipient's proportional rate of pension is calculated using his or her OWN AWLR. Note: People who were overseas immediately before 20 September 2000 and have not since returned for more than 26 weeks will continue to be assessed under the previous rules. See 7.1.1.10. Policy reference: SS Guide 7.1.1.10 Overview of Portability Legislation _______________________________________________________
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Post by Banjo on May 11, 2012 16:52:15 GMT 7
Oh. OK... that will be good news for a few people.
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