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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 27, 2012 8:35:26 GMT 7
Deaf Interpreter....
because they will make sure that you understand what the JCA officer is saying to you....
and I don't know about you but just processing what someone is trying to tell me can be very exhausting....
whatever means you have of understanding people now they are another aid to understanding...
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Post by aussierick on Nov 27, 2012 8:41:28 GMT 7
nofixedaddress: I would love too run thru it with you. How can we privately chat???
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Post by Banjo on Nov 27, 2012 9:36:02 GMT 7
aussierick, When I first attended an ENT in 2005 (a real Collins Street specialist) he told me that I must be a good lip reader and I denied that. But what he pointed out was that I must unconsciously read lips. And I guess he was correct from the point of view that it does help me to understand someone when I can see the movement of their lips plus whatever sound I pick up they make. A visual clue. I have tinnitus in both ears and you are correct....it can drive you f**ken crazy. But one of the most interesting aspects of the new beaut Impairment table is that it is not possible to medically diagnose tinnitus yet if you can prove you have it you are automatically allocated 20 points! Meniere's disease and its effect on balance is more able to be medically diagnosed. If you wish me to run through my initial JCA/assessment for DSP interview then let me know. But given the medical evidence you have I would not be too worried if I was you. And even if they knock you back immediately appeal and go and get the medical reports that confirm your condition. I once lived next door to a very elderly man with serious hearing problems caused by exposure to industrial noise. Finally he began to hear music and used to knock on my door at all hours demanding I turned the "record player" down. Eventually I threw my circuit breakers to demonstrate the problems were his to no avail. What really hurt was the fact he was hearing old time dance music.
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Post by aussierick on Nov 27, 2012 10:41:44 GMT 7
There is a severe functional impact on activities involving hearing (communication) function or other functions of the ear even when using a hearing aid, cochlear implant or other assistive listening device or technology or sign language interpreting. (1) The person: (a) has severe difficulty hearing any conversation even at raised volume in a room with no background noise (that is, is unable to hear someone speaking to them in a loud voice, or is not able to hear someone shouting a warning (e.g. ‘Look out!’)); and (b) is unable to hear sounds needed for personal or workplace safety (e.g. a smoke alarm, fire evacuation siren, or car or truck horn); and (c) is reliant on captions to follow a television program or movie; and (d) needs to use a captioned telephone; and (e) is completely reliant in all situations on a recognised sign language (e.g. Auslan), lip reading, other non verbal communication method (e.g. note taking) to converse with others; or (2) The person has continual difficulty with balance (e.g. the person has continual dizziness or has to sit down or hold on to a solid object) or continual ringing in the ears that interferes with hearing, due to a medically diagnosed disorder of the inner ear (e.g. Meniere’s disease or tinnitus).
How closely does the assessor follow the above guidelines? for example if I match a majority of the points listed about but not all of them, would I still get the 20 points needed?
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 27, 2012 10:51:05 GMT 7
Banjo....old time dance music....hahaahahaha....
Best way of dancing with a woman ever invented.
But your right. I have to be so aware of my surroundings. And watch everything and everyone around me.
Mainly because if I don't watch I could step out in front of a car....or get backed over by a reversing vehicle.....
And I have had to develop other communication and empathy skills.....so i can work out if i am in a safe environment, or not......
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2012 10:51:53 GMT 7
Hi AussieRick... After the bullshit that i just learned and last posted a thread on; they wont even probably judge you on your deafness? Just go into the JCA and sit there; dont say anything, dont do anything, dont respond to anything and let the bastards work out whats really wrong with you! They have some high school equivalent dillberry super cede all relevant expert advice and make their on decisions anyway, and all depending as to how the interpret you at the JCA? So thats my advice to you AussieRick and I got my Indefinite Portability after being on DSP for 5 years, but not for any of my real afflictions; read JCA FILE REQUEST/Cheetal.. And by the way, as your leaving the interview room, spit in their face and tell them thats for their answer and for future hardships! Good Luck AussieRick... Your in the right place and you should find the impairment tables and get prepared mate.. Be safe... Cheetal:))
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Post by aussierick on Nov 27, 2012 11:00:52 GMT 7
Cheetal, well done in getting your freedom mate !!
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 27, 2012 11:09:39 GMT 7
aussierick
as banjo said...we are not experts in anything...just folk trying to sort out our individual problems and come to this board to get support and maybe someone comes up with a suggestion but mostly i think its reading what other people have gone through...or are going through...
It is my personal understanding for me that if i was to be assessed under the current Impairment Table 11 then I would be judged as gaining DSP as follows....
Everything at 1 The Person as in 1(a) and 1(b) and 1(c) and 1(d) and 1(e).
OR
either one at 2 which is about meniere's disease (balance) or tinnitus (ringing in the ear)
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Post by aussierick on Nov 27, 2012 11:27:21 GMT 7
nofixedaddress Let me address this on each point.
1.a yes I can't hear everything in a conversation at a raised voice even in a quiet room. 1.b yes I can't hearing anyone who shouts at me from a distance for personal or work safety 1.c yes I am reliant on closed captioning on TV program and movies, where it is available. 1.d yes, if I had a mobile phone which had the capability of captions I would be reliant on it. 1.e yes, if I had the skills I would be reliant on lipreading.
2 yes I suffer from tinnitus, and have since I was 18 and since my hearing loss it is worse.
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Post by aussierick on Nov 27, 2012 11:28:55 GMT 7
I also suffer from bad balance and do walk in a zig zag like pattern, I forgot to mention that
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Post by latindancer on Nov 27, 2012 11:44:15 GMT 7
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 27, 2012 12:04:54 GMT 7
latindancer...
I totally agree.....
haven't watched them yet....and I did debate whether I should include 'the dance'.
and I danced 'with a woman' in a ballroom in Canberra one night....
bloody magic.
I have bookmarked all the links you have provided....
my point was...dancing is best when the bodies can touch....thats all....
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Post by aussierick on Nov 27, 2012 12:21:14 GMT 7
I have my JCA tomorrow at Centrelink in Penrith. I will let you all know how it goes, my guess is that I should get the DSP going by Table 11. However I don't know whether the assessor can be trusted to do the assessment just as honestly as I am required to do. And that is what concerns me.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 27, 2012 12:28:14 GMT 7
aussierick
nah....go and read either my post that i bolded the and's and or's or down load a copy of the impairment tables and read it or take it to someone to explain.
your 1(a) and 1(b) is in the official 1(a) seperated by OR.
you have then completely not correctly numbered the rest of 1 and have completely missed out on 1(b) which says..... is unable to hear sounds needed for personal or workplace safety (e.g. a smoke alarm, fire evacuation siren, or car or truck horn);
And number 2, there are 2 parts to that....separated by OR.
meniere's OR tinnitus.
I personally have no idea what it mean to have 80% hearing loss...or 70%...or whatever...
i figure i can do, or not do what they say.
And under the hearing loss Impairment table I was judged on I have more than 20 points.
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Post by aussierick on Nov 27, 2012 12:37:20 GMT 7
nofixedaddress. I can't hear anything when it comes to sirens, fire evac's etc. or even if someone shouted "watch out" I wouldn't hear it or understand, if I heard it, it would sound like jibberish.
I think I would have both 1 and 2, yes I have a balance problem and yes I have tinnitus. and I would have all the points in 1 especially since I don't have a mobile with captioning or that I have the skills for lipreading so 1.d and 1.e probably wouldn't even be asked.
but 1.a, 1.b and 1.c yes I do have answer for.
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