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Post by rhonda on Nov 27, 2012 7:49:07 GMT 7
I think that Kayak could be one of the better airfare booking sites: www.kayak.com/agree with you there. Im always hearing got a $200 fair to oz and this is a fair call but I never see the full return fare. Im of to oz in a few weeks and have trawled for weeks and weeks searching the illusive sub $500 air fare I ended up booking thai air return for $750 like I always end up doing. this 6 week rubbish is going to be a killer! there is absolutely no way to get constant cheap airfares so Im thinking going the loyalty route and gold card/free fights/ air new zealand lounge, OMG! the NZ wines /beers/ showers/beds/interent its almost worth going to oz just for that  I just checked an example on Air Asia, $287 AUD return from Bali to Perth on 25/26 February, after 5 minutes of searching. A five hour flight between Perth and Bali. Bali and the surrounding islands, Java, Lombok, Nusa Tengara islands, would be cheaper than Thailand. You could live on $10 AUD per day. It's just a matter of budgeting, living in the cheaper rural areas away from the tourist areas, and living cheaply like the locals...... Better for your soul as well. Just ask Banjo. The six week limit is a blessing from God. ( more on that later) There is no reason why a DSPer cannot have a budget of $10 or $20 a day for living expenses, and then budget for all the flights she needs, 6 weeks X 5 or 6 trips a year = 30 to 36 weeks a year, which would probably not endanger residency status as long as there were other ties. Aussie25 said he is going to push for 40 to 42 weeks per year, and good luck to him. But Zorro, I have read your lengthy DSP application process on this site. As you said, you were once "the sharpest tool in the shed" but now it is obvious from your typing, and many things you have said, that you are struggling with great pain and/or painkillers. I think you would be one of the DSPers most likely to be approved for Unlimited Portability, why don't you apply. There is zero chance of you being tossed off the DSP, and this 2 hours nonsense is yet to be tested in the courts. Pushing the residency envelope: you mustn't forget that your Australian "residence" is their most important consideration in attacking you as a non-resident. You are right about Bali and surrounds being the only affordable multiple trip shuffle. But if you keep a lease, and pay rent in the most expensive country on earth, you cannot afford 6 week holidays. You have to do a sly sublet . . . which you cannot do. As in you cannot rent out any place for 6 weeks. They know all this. What this means is that only DSPers who have an Australian residence which they do not pay for while away can afford any holiday. Otherwise, is it worth the head f---- and rigmarole? I would say only DSPers living with their parents or in a partner's unrented house or in their paid off house can now afford this. This thread in the Flying on a Budget section has inspired a new Civil Disobedience Movement. |
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Post by rhonda on Nov 27, 2012 8:01:02 GMT 7
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Post by Banjo on Nov 27, 2012 8:11:26 GMT 7
Our salt marches are on budget airlines these days.
You may have noted the demise of the Pensioner ChinWag forum in the interests of keeping our forum on track with genuine DSP issues.
I'm quite happy to trim the board even further if I consider it necessary.
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Post by rhonda on Nov 27, 2012 8:29:48 GMT 7
Baranghope has a point there, about the need to maintain a residence in Australia. However, Banjo has provided an inspiring example of how to live cheaply. Apparently he paid just $100 per month to rent a house in Vientiane, Laos. About 5 km from the Talaat Sao (The Morning Market, which has now been engulfed by a shopping mall). Is that so, Banjo? Banjo has also offered some wise advice about living very cheaply in developing countries, by living in rural areas, well away from the expensive tourist areas, and living cheaply like the local people. This may also have benefits for physical health, and also mental and spiritual health. This is the basis for the DSP Overseas Satyagraha: REVENUE/INCOME:356.00 per week DSP 30.30 per week Pension Supplement 60.50 Rent Assistance for a house/apartment @ $140 per week. 446.80 per week Total Revenue/IncomeEXPENDITURE:140.00 Rent per week for house/apartment in Australia. 140.00 All other expenses per week @ $20 per day. ** 140.00 AIRFARES FUND = $840 over 6 weeks. *** 26.80 Emergency Fund 446.80 per week Total Expenditure** $20 per day includes overseas accommodation, which could be as cheap as 5 AUD per day in a guesthouse, or as cheap as 2 AUD per day with a month to month rental in a remote rural area of South East Asia.*** Airfares Fund could include other expenses, such as launching expenses. Dip into the Emergency Fund only when desperate.THIS IS THE DSPOVERSEAS SATYAGRAHA:
$20 a day to secure Australian residence (effectively $11.36 because of Rent Assistance)
$20 a day for food and accommodation in South East Asia
$20 a day for the return air trip every 6 weeks
5 or 6 return trips every year = 30 to 36 weeks per year in South East Asia !
PARADISE !!
PUSH IT UP TO 42 WEEKS IF YOU ARE A STRONG, VIGOROUS AND BRAVE SATYAGRAHI !!! Perhaps some new threads need to be started about careful budgeting, using a spreadsheet to tally up expenses, and living a simple and frugal life. I think that it is very possible to live on $20 per day, especially if you are mostly living in a developing country. In fact, I would say that it is even possible to live on $10 a day, living a very ascetic and frugal lifestyle. Baranghope suggested that Overseas DSPers may be limited to Indonesia, The Cheapest Country in the World. However, I think this cheap lifestyle may be possible in most of the South East Asian countries, including The Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, and Myanmar, and given that the "Airfares Fund" is $840 per 6 week period. As for getting a house or apartment for $140 per week in Australia, this has been discussed before, and it has been pointed out that there are many towns and areas in rural Australia that have cheap rental accomodation, and the place to start is realestate.com.au, just set the search parameters to "less than $150". www.realestate.com.au/rentWe believe, that if our dream of the Satyagraha is fully realised, at least 100,000 Disability Support Pensioners could become Satyagrahi, and join us in the struggle against the tyrannical Fahcsia-ist dictatorship. As we have already described, such a Satyagrahi lifestyle could also be beneficial in many ways, to the physical, mental and spiritual health of the individual DSPer. But an army of 100,000 Satyagrahi will be a force to be reckoned with.... .....10 Divisions of Satyagrahi, ready to march on Canberra... ....If we had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly.... |
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Post by rhonda on Nov 27, 2012 8:31:54 GMT 7
Our salt marches are on budget airlines these days. I'm quite happy to trim the board even further if I consider it necessary. Yes, thanks Banjo, and I am very happy for you to trim the board in any way you please  |
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Post by Banjo on Nov 27, 2012 9:21:51 GMT 7
If you're going to continue to repeat personal information that you have found in your exhaustive internet searches on me could you at least do me the the courtesy of getting it right.
The rent was $40 a month and only for the 13 week period of portability allowed by Centrelink.
The year was also considerably before my last three residency investigations so this was obviously approved by their investigators.
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Post by rhonda on Nov 27, 2012 9:59:45 GMT 7
If you're going to continue to repeat personal information that you have found in your exhaustive internet searches on me could you at least do me the the courtesy of getting it right. The rent was $40 a month and only for the 13 week period of portability allowed by Centrelink. The year was also considerably before my last three residency investigations so this was obviously approved by their investigators. Sorry, Banjo. I tend to read all of the posts that are posted on this board, and you have mentioned your Laos experience many times on this board, and I am certain that you have specifically mentioned about renting the house in Vientiane, several times. Banjo's own posts on this discussion board are the only source of information I have about his stay in Laos. I have a very good memory, and tend to remember such things, although I may have got the details slightly wrong. Thankyou for correcting me. |
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Post by Banjo on Nov 27, 2012 10:06:45 GMT 7
Always a pleasure, Siddhartha.
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Post by rhonda on Nov 27, 2012 15:00:39 GMT 7
"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away."
--Henry David Thoreau, Walden (1854)
"Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison. "
--Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience (1849)
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Post by rhonda on Nov 27, 2012 15:11:29 GMT 7
La liberté seule au contraire, peut combattre efficacement dans ces sortes de sociétés les vices qui leur sont naturels et les retenir sur la pente où elles glissent. Il n’y a qu’elle en effet qui puisse retirer les citoyens de l’isolement dans lequel l’indépendance même de leur condition les fait vivre, pour les contraindre à s’rapprocher les uns des autres, qui les réchauffe et les réunisse chaque jour par la nécessité de s’entendre, de se persuader et de se complaire mutuellement dans la pratique des affaires communes. Seule elle est capable de les arracher au culte de l’argent et aux petits tracas journaliers de leurs affaires particulières pour leur faire apercevoir et sentir à tout moment la patrie au-dessus et à côté d’eux ; seule elle substitue de temps à autre à l’amour du bien-être des passions plus énergétiques et plus hautes, fournit à l’ambition des objets plus grands que l’acquisition des richesses, et crée la lumière qui permet de voir et de juger les vices et les vertus des hommes.
--Alexis de Tocqueville, L'Ancien regime (1856)
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Post by Banjo on Nov 27, 2012 15:53:59 GMT 7
“Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it.”
― Henry David Thoreau
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Post by Banjo on Nov 27, 2012 16:33:13 GMT 7
Maybe a little Hesse would be more appropriate?
“What could I say to you that would be of value, except that perhaps you seek too much, that as a result of your seeking you cannot find.”
― Hermann Hesse, Siddhartha
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 27, 2012 17:47:41 GMT 7
gahndi was a selfish demagogue.
after the destruction of india it is no wonder he was shot.
he reminds me of mao,
che,
lenin,
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