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Post by osays on Dec 23, 2012 15:07:23 GMT 7
Hello This is the second time refuse my applications for the system of(Job Capacity Assessment)!! all medical reports from a specialists doctors , I provided and reports" I say example some of my pains: - Complete blindness in my left eye, and the weakness of my right eye continuous , joints and pain in all my bones,I can not sleep and no rest until I taking ten tablets(Prodeine Forte) a day,This drug caused my ulcer" After all the evidence collected and reports, surprised by a call from Department of centrelink Refused my request under the pretext of non-completion of the necessary points! After a second rejecting I contacted the Department of Victorian Tribunals to veto a third time" My question is: - What is possible to do a Victorian Tribunals to the success of the issue and what are the possible increase offered provided more than I have in the past? I hope to answer a clear and strong Thanks to all
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Post by Banjo on Dec 23, 2012 16:34:58 GMT 7
Have you had an Administrative Review and a Social Security Appeals Tribunal appeal? If so and they have both been unsuccessful you need to consider an Administrative Appeals Tribunal appeal. I have no assessment qualifications but your disabilities sound severe to me especially if the vision in your remaining eye is deteriorating. Who is handling your forms? Is English your second language? My suggestion is that you give Welfare Rights a ring in your home state, I suspect they may be closed for the holidays but I'll look up the numbers and find out the earliest date you can call them. I see you are in Victoria so your office is Contact Phone: Melbourne callers: (03) 9481 0355 Geelong callers: (03) 5221 4744 Rural callers: 1800 094 164 Website: ssrv.org.au/Fax: (03) 9419 3552 Hours of Operation: Monday to Friday 9.30 to 12.30 I doubt you can contact them next week at all, try on or after the 3rd January.
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Post by osays on Dec 23, 2012 17:26:28 GMT 7
Thanks Banjo Yes, my second language English and I mostly use instant Google translation After the first rejection of objection I made the Appeals by myself, they asked me if I have other medical papers to support and strengthen my applications " Already gone to specialize in the eyes and the mobilization request another show redness and inflammation from time to time to my right eye, because my left eye earned 15 points for Social Security estimates! This system required to provide twenty points each single sickness,although that law talked about vision, not one eye or two! In the second rejection I contacted to Social Security Appeals Tribunal appeal ,and promised the employee access my file, and then tell me the next steps" But as u told me these days the end year holiday and must wait for the beginning of the coming New Year' In this case what is the steps that must begin with? thanks
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Post by Banjo on Dec 23, 2012 17:51:14 GMT 7
Welfare rights should discuss that with you, there's really not much you can do now anyway.
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Post by Banjo on Dec 24, 2012 14:45:22 GMT 7
Oh for a properly designed and constructed discussion board.
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Post by free on Dec 24, 2012 14:56:25 GMT 7
Post disparaging women and comparing them to prostitutes removed.
The OP has been assisted as far as this board is capable of and within the parameters of our founding philosophy.
Any continued off topic posts will result in closure of the thread.
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Post by Banker on Dec 24, 2012 17:10:49 GMT 7
Oh for a properly designed and constructed discussion board. Sorry mate, did I miss something.
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Post by osays on Jan 24, 2013 11:08:50 GMT 7
Hello again Today I received a call from(social security appeals tribunal) give me a date for a hearing on 13/02/2013.
My question to the experts and people who can provide advice or guidance, as long as they have sam reports and no new reports I have,what is the point of this hearing? Or Is it possible to rely on previous reports and sentencing be for me? This is the first experience for me so I do not know how to deal with it " Note other Asked me if I want to follow up with them by phone or Attend the meeting! Is there a difference between attending or listening through the phone, whichever is stronger Thanks a lot
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jan 24, 2013 11:24:00 GMT 7
osaysthere are no experts here. We are just like you. Banjo suggests you contact Welfare Rights in Victoria, if that's where you live. Would you prefer talking to someone on the telephone or face-to-face? You are entitled, and they will do this, get a person who speaks your language... interpreter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 8:44:37 GMT 7
I think its apparent that you have not been in this country too long Osays; I also believe that is why C/L is hindering your JCA. If they view you as a short term immigrant, then unforunately they will do all in their powers to stop you from leaving and returning to your country, where you can live at the Australian Goverments expense! NFA is so correct in his statement; "face to face" is the best form of approach mate. Good Luck, but I think they are viewing you as a foreign national still; but thats only my opinion. Many here have worked 30-40 yrs, and still have trouble getting past their rigid tests. Just keep harrassing them mate and never give up, Ok! Cheetal:))
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Post by fedup on Mar 25, 2013 5:14:19 GMT 7
TO GET DSP ONE NEEDS TO MEET CITW CONTINUATION OF INALBITY TO WORK RIGHT PLUS 20pts SO IF THAT'S THE CASE,CITW, WOULD EXEMPT ANYONE FROM ,BEEN FORCED TO WORK ANY HRS HOW CAN THEY SAY TO QUALIFY YOU MUST HAVE A CITW AND IN THE NEXT BREATH DENY U/P BECAUSE SOME FRAUDSTER ASSESSOR DEEMS YOU ABLE TO WORK.AND YOU STILL STAY ON THE DSP,AND TO FURTHER INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE MAKE NO ATTEMPT TO PUT YOU IN WORK,OR REVOKE YOUR PENSION FOR NOT SEEKING WORK I AM GETTING F$ )-n SUICIDAL ,DEALING WITH THESE PRICKS AND THEIR BULLSHIT I WANT THEM TO NOW FORCE INTO A WORK SITUATION AGAINST THE EVIDENCE PROVIDED,SO WHEN I INJURE MYSELF I WILL SUE THEIR STUPID ASSES.AND THEY WOULD BE DIRECTLY RESPONIBLE BECAUSE OF THEIR PERVERSE LEGISLATION AND UNQUALIFIED ASSESSORS. THEY DEFINATELY HAVE NOT HEARD OF DUTY OF CARE, SO,IF YOU ARE DEEMED ABLE TO WORK THEN YOU NO LONGER HAVE CLAIM TO CITW ,OR AM I LOSING THE PLOT,HERE.
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Post by fedup on Mar 25, 2013 5:16:51 GMT 7
Impairment rating & CITW To qualify for DSP a person must have an impairment rating of at least 20 points and have a CITW. Both aspects are of equal importance. Explanation: People who have an impairment rating of 20 points or more, including those with severe impairments, are not necessarily incapable of working. Their medical impairment(s) may cause difficulties in many work situations, but depending on their individual circumstances, coping mechanisms, training, and reasonable adjustments, they may be able to undertake work of 15 hours or more per week, within the next 2 years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 11:07:30 GMT 7
Hi Fedup: The continuing incapacity to work is 5 years or more mate, and they said in my JCA file that I could possibly do 2 hours work per week and apart from courses; but does anybody know of any employers who are willing to employ anyone for only 2 hours a week? You are right in your analogical interpretations there mate, and so I must ask you a very important point of topic here now? Have you even tried for "IP" and the JCA yet mate or requested the forms even? I think that unless you have, then you need to settle down and take a breath, stop talking about suicide because of the many manic depressive sufferers here and including myself; then approach the situation with a better and more open minded view! Negativity attracts itself and Positivity is what you need in this situation Fedup; if you ask me why I know this, well that's easy brother! I buried all my anger and negative thoughts, I followed B&B's advice to the letter and formed my own strategy; therefore, I was one of the first to win "IP" in the country. I did not even know of the relevant demerit points scales, but I knew my own disabilities and incapacities enough to know that even if I lost my appeal, then I could not be put on newstart again! That's all bluff and bravado by them as the figures are starting to show, or so I believe. But what you have to do old mate, is get off your arse and front them first; because it wont be just handed to you because you think you deserve it. Remember that anything in life worth having, wanting or owning; is worth fighting for Fedup. Temper your words as we all must do on occassion and especially in a public forum, and go and fight for your rights and dignity; its worth it, don't you think mate? Good Luck with it, but its all up to you brother, so fight for it and fight hard; never give up fighting like some of those here that continue to appeal. But you have to take up the fight sooner rather than later, I think.. The 20 point bullshit is exactly that, but there are ways around it if you follow the guidelines laid out by the Wise Ones and those that first broke the ground, like me! Good Luck again Fedup... Take No Prisoners:)) Cheetal...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 11:14:48 GMT 7
well said cheetal,that is very good advice about any thing,you sound like a wise man,glad your here .
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Post by fedup on Mar 25, 2013 13:27:49 GMT 7
I applied , waited in oct last year,had jca in jan, rang them in early feb, said on the phone denied, went to local office ,said was not the case still under review,made complaint, just verbal sorries and usual fob off, nothing in writing,got letter today stating deemed to be able to do light part time work,can hardly walk or sit ,for any time over an hour, can only drive short distances ,have had my super paid out ,and two TPD payouts due to invalidity,under the any clause in superfund law, and will,be seeing a Psychologist next week.
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