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Post by Banker on Jun 1, 2012 8:47:01 GMT 7
Hi i have beeeen on dsp for 4 years now. On feb next year i turn 65. I have been living in Philippines for just on 2 years now and go back every 13 weeks. When i apply for old age pension in february will there be any problem. I have worked and lived in Australia all my life and never got a passport until 2007. Any help would be appreciated. Crackers. About two months before you turn 65 they C/L will send you a letter/form and ask you if you want to stay on DSP or change over to OAP, once you change to OAP you can not change back to DSP, thats what they told me.
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Post by adrian on Jun 19, 2012 18:13:10 GMT 7
i wouldnt mind betting julia will give a few billion to the europeans at this forum france has just reduced its pension age down to 60 years
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Post by Banjo on Jun 19, 2012 18:54:32 GMT 7
The French, and most of northern Europe don't normally elect governments on promises of minimal taxation and huge spending cuts.
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Post by howdo on Oct 16, 2012 12:59:23 GMT 7
Has anyone challenged the 2yr policy re the old age pension? For those not familiar with it, you are expected to spend the 2yrs before your retirement in Australia. Seems a very draconian ruling to me.
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Post by Banjo on Oct 16, 2012 13:41:12 GMT 7
We had a guy here a while back who claimed he had, I think that he said he lost the SSAT but Centrelink still backed down before the AAT. I'm convinced it would never stand up in court because there's nothing about it in the legislation.
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Post by howdo on Oct 17, 2012 9:53:27 GMT 7
We had a guy here a while back who claimed he had, I think that he said he lost the SSAT but Centrelink still backed down before the AAT. I'm convinced it would never stand up in court because there's nothing about it in the legislation. I agree Banjo.
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Post by gregorian43 on Jan 16, 2013 17:45:34 GMT 7
Not sure if this board aplies to me I'm receiving OAP I wish to move to the philipines to marry my GF of 8 years I'm told I will loose my pension the day I marry her .I feel this is grosly unfair as I worked from the time I was 15 till I retired at 66 most of my life I worked 2 and 3 jobs paying to tax the whole time I feel I have a right to my pension wherever I chose to liveand with Whoever I chose to marry .My spouse has a good job and family there and doesnt want to live in Australia . One C/link officer told me I would loose my australian citezenship If I married and lived in the Philippines . To All Aussie Pensioners.This board started when a small group of Aussie Disability Support Pensioners decided that being told by Centrelink where they could and couldn’t live and how long and how frequently they could travel wasn’t good enough. As free Australians we wanted the rights of every other citizen. Since that time we’ve attracted other pensioners struggling with bad bureaucratic decisions, others have applied for pensions and consider they have been unfairly refused. Our aim now is to lend a sympathetic ear, to put everyone’s stories together, to advise where we can and to try to point people in the right direction. We are not political, if you have a problem with the ALP or the Liberal Party, take it to them, not us. We are not here to take on the Australian Government and their minions like Centrelink in a full frontal attack; we are not at the moment qualified to do so and may never be. We are here to tell them, “you are wrong, pensioners have the same rights as anyone else and if you want to deny them to us you’d better have a pretty good reason”. We have three Facebook pages, DSPoverseas, The Australian Pensioners Union and Australian Pensioners. At the moment they are mainly used to direct people to our forum. Banjo
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Post by Banker on Jan 16, 2013 18:19:57 GMT 7
We have a glitch in the forum system
First of all no one can take away your citizenship.
If you are on OAP you can marry anyone, any where and you can live anywhere. Once you have been out of Australia for 6 months ? they (C/L) will see fit to take away your residency, you will loose some of your benifits like Medicare, pensioner concession card etc but you will keep your basic pension. If you marry or live in a defacto relationship you will also loose some of your pension. Other members can fill you in on how much......Hope that helps.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 16, 2013 18:20:52 GMT 7
You've been on the receiving end of some fairly spectacular stories there Greg. I'll start at the end and say that Australian citizenship is not losable. The Old Age Pension is fully portable which means you can live anywhere in the world. If you marry this lady in the Philippines and I personally feel that you are too young, no one under 80 should take that step, I could imagine that Centrelink, and I'm assuming that they knew about it, may reduce your pension to half the married rate. They will then consider your wife's income, which, once again they would expect you to tell them about, and reduce your pension accordingly because they would consider you a couple. I think you need some professional advice, ring Welfare Rights in your home state... Queensland? on 1800 358 511. Here's some friendly advice, put the marriage on hold and go and take a nice long holiday in the Philippines.
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Post by seajae on Oct 19, 2013 12:48:43 GMT 7
Hi i have beeeen on dsp for 4 years now. On feb next year i turn 65. I have been living in Philippines for just on 2 years now and go back every 13 weeks. When i apply for old age pension in february will there be any problem. I have worked and lived in Australia all my life and never got a passport until 2007. Any help would be appreciated. Crackers. About two months before you turn 65 they C/L will send you a letter/form and ask you if you want to stay on DSP or change over to OAP, once you change to OAP you can not change back to DSP, thats what they told me. If thats the case, are we better off to stay on DSP or change over?, which one is the best for us.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 20, 2013 4:25:00 GMT 7
Now that I have UP of my DSP, and for what its worth, at this point in time I have no intention of spending 2 years in Australia just to get the OAP!
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Post by Banjo on Oct 20, 2013 7:12:02 GMT 7
It will be interesting to see if Centrelink classes people on the indefinite portability as non-residents, another thing that will have to be monitored further down the track.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 20, 2013 7:27:43 GMT 7
It will be interesting to see if Centrelink classes people on the indefinite portability as non-residents, another thing that will have to be monitored further down the track. I agree BanjoThat's why I was interested to see that since gaining UP they have listed my son's address as my 'Home' address and where I am living in the Philippines as 'Temporary'!
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Post by Banjo on Oct 20, 2013 7:41:47 GMT 7
My take is that the indefinite portability of 2012 works differently to that that people grandfathered under the Act in previous years. They were declared to be non-residents entitled to the DSP.
I watched the UP provisions very carefully but as far as I can see there was never any indication that non-residency would apply in this case.
This will be little consolation if one of you guys goes back to Australia, loses the UP, and spends the next 12 months in the appeals system because Centrelink has made up a new rule about it.
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Post by Banjo on Oct 20, 2013 10:09:09 GMT 7
Are you being paid every 4 weeks yet? When I told them I wanted indefinite portability for my age pension they said that my payments would change to every 4 weeks but it's been nearly 3 months now and still hasn't happened.
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