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Post by Banjo on Dec 21, 2015 14:24:11 GMT 7
The problem with the far right is while they may not have the numbers in a party like the Libs, they have a controlling interest if the other factions want to do anything. We mentioned the DLP earlier and how they were forced to break from the ALP, their social beliefs was far closer to the Libs than Labor.
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Post by dave3478 on Dec 22, 2015 7:12:37 GMT 7
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Post by dave3478 on Dec 24, 2015 7:42:29 GMT 7
Hi all,This is a copy of the letter from Rachel Siewert Greens member. It really just quotes the same centrelink story about portability but have a read. Hi David, Thank you for your email to Senator Siewert in regards to the portability of the aged pension. I have been in touch with Centrelink to clarify the rules in regards to this issues. In summary, if you have returned to live in Australia within the last 2 years and you have started receiving Age Pension during this period then you cannot be paid outside Australia until the 2 year waiting period has passed. You can generally be paid Age Pension for the whole time you are outside Australia, regardless of whether you leave temporarily or to live in another country. However, the amount you receive may change at certain points based on how long you have been away and your personal circumstances. If you are paid Age Pension under an international social security agreement[1], the amount that you receive while you are outside Australia is determined according to that agreement. If you have returned to live in Australia within the last 2 years and you have started receiving Age Pension during this period then you cannot be paid outside Australia until the 2 year waiting period has passed. This rule also applies if you were previously paid under an international social security agreement[1] while you were living outside Australia and your Age Pension continues to be paid now you have returned to live in Australia again. If you are affected by this rule and you travel outside Australia while remaining an Australian resident[2], your absence is generally considered to be temporary and is counted as part of the 2 year period. If you are affected by this rule and you travel to a country with which Australia has an international social security agreement[1] with, the agreement may allow you to continue to get Age Pension. More information can be found at: www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/centrelink/age-pension/age-pension-while-travelling-outside-australia David, I hope that this information proves some help in clarifying your situation. If you need specific information, and are happy to provide personal details including first name, last name, address and CRN number, then I am able to see what rules will apply to your personal situation. Wishing all the best for the holiday period. Kind regards, Georgia Blackburn Office Manager and Constituent Liaison Office of Rachel Siewert | Australian Greens Senator for Western Australia
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Post by Banjo on Dec 24, 2015 7:50:53 GMT 7
So why wont they give us the guide lines they use to determine residency? If you travel overseas for a year? Two years? Five? When does your qualification for Old Age portability become effected?
Because there are none, they make it up as they go along.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Dec 24, 2015 8:13:48 GMT 7
they make it up as they go along. Merry Christmas.
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Post by dave3478 on Dec 24, 2015 9:23:48 GMT 7
Yes , Its so vaige you can drive a bus thru it. if your away 10 or 15 years they may have a case. but 3 or 4 years its no case to answer. There must be thousands who have turned 60+ cant get full time work who want to live in a cheaper country. I think a class action is in order on centrelink for gross incompetence. Failing to protect Australian citizens from mismanagement of Australian laws that directly cause them distress and loss of money. Also causing unnecessary Disputes and benefits paid for unemployment costing millions.
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Post by Banjo on Dec 24, 2015 9:26:11 GMT 7
they make it up as they go along. Merry Christmas. And to you and yours
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Post by dave3478 on Dec 24, 2015 10:20:05 GMT 7
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you all
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2015 15:59:48 GMT 7
Hi all,This is a copy of the letter from Rachel Siewert Greens member. It really just quotes the same centrelink story about portability but have a read. Hi David, Thank you for your email to Senator Siewert in regards to the portability of the aged pension. I have been in touch with Centrelink to clarify the rules in regards to this issues. In summary, if you have returned to live in Australia within the last 2 years and you have started receiving Age Pension during this period then you cannot be paid outside Australia until the 2 year waiting period has passed. You can generally be paid Age Pension for the whole time you are outside Australia, regardless of whether you leave temporarily or to live in another country. However, the amount you receive may change at certain points based on how long you have been away and your personal circumstances. If you are paid Age Pension under an international social security agreement[1], the amount that you receive while you are outside Australia is determined according to that agreement. If you have returned to live in Australia within the last 2 years and you have started receiving Age Pension during this period then you cannot be paid outside Australia until the 2 year waiting period has passed. This rule also applies if you were previously paid under an international social security agreement[1] while you were living outside Australia and your Age Pension continues to be paid now you have returned to live in Australia again. If you are affected by this rule and you travel outside Australia while remaining an Australian resident[2], your absence is generally considered to be temporary and is counted as part of the 2 year period. If you are affected by this rule and you travel to a country with which Australia has an international social security agreement[1] with, the agreement may allow you to continue to get Age Pension. More information can be found at: www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/centrelink/age-pension/age-pension-while-travelling-outside-australia David, I hope that this information proves some help in clarifying your situation. If you need specific information, and are happy to provide personal details including first name, last name, address and CRN number, then I am able to see what rules will apply to your personal situation. Wishing all the best for the holiday period. Kind regards, Georgia Blackburn Office Manager and Constituent Liaison Office of Rachel Siewert | Australian Greens Senator for Western Australia Dave Regarding the letter from Senator Seiwert. I note they ask you to provide specific information about yourself which, from their words, they will take up with CL. There is also a reference to temp absence during the 2 year qualifying period. Lets see if they can assist your specific case. All the best with it. Mike
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Post by Denis-NFA on Dec 25, 2015 4:44:17 GMT 7
G'day Dave.
I agree with what Mike said.
I wish you well.
And I would encourage you to write to every single politician.
I hope 2016 is a good year for you.
Kind Regards Denis
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Post by nomadic on Dec 25, 2015 16:24:42 GMT 7
Yes Dave i would also encourage you to write to all of them as i did in 2008. Alas do not expect any replies as I got not one.
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Post by dave3478 on Dec 28, 2015 13:27:51 GMT 7
I have sent an email to Rachel Siewert | Australian Greens Senator for Western Australia regarding my actual circumstances. Lets see what the findings are.
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Post by chris on Dec 28, 2015 18:22:57 GMT 7
In short Dave, you would know more about it than she would. Ref the content of this topic up to now.
You are in a position of strength. You need to be physically present in Australia when making your application. Since no one actually knows the rules, if there are any, a period of about 6 months prior to your reaching pension age is a reasonable target. Any exit during this period would be at a risk.
Six months residency with an ongoing portability is better than 2 years struggling to make end meet.
For me, that's the cut and thrust of it, any opinion issued by a politician is a quote or reprint of Centrelink's rules.
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Post by dave3478 on Dec 29, 2015 6:55:27 GMT 7
Thanks Chris, I guess i just have to work it out after .I have 3.5 years till retirement .Thats a long time and any think can happen by then. From what I have seen in politics who ever is in government at the time changes the rules to suit there next election chances. The NBN scrapped for a dearer second rate system, OAP changes in medicine and my friends tell me they have to pay now for there test strips for Diabetes. The list goes on. So who can foresee 3.5 years ahead.. Good luck to every one .Just remeber they only think about the ballot box ,not people
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