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Post by Banjo on Apr 4, 2010 15:32:41 GMT 7
Portability of Australian payments, International Agreements and foreign pensionsNew portability rules have applied from 1 July 2004. Payments which were previously payable for up to 26 weeks of a temporary or indefinite absence from Australia, are now payable for only 13 weeks. There are different rules which apply for Age Pension, Wife Pension and Widow B Pension. Disability Support Pension can be paid indefinitely where the person is terminally ill. General savings provisions introduced on 1 July 2004 mean that a person who was overseas immediately before 1 July 2004 is subject to the rules under which they departed until they return to Australia. There are complex rules relating to people who were receiving Disability Support Pension, Widow B Pension or Wife Pension and were overseas immediately before 1 July 2004. Claiming under an International Social Security AgreementAustralia has International Social Security Agreements with New Zealand, Italy, Cyprus, Canada, Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands, Austria, Ireland, Malta, Denmark, the United States of America, Germany, Slovenia, Chile, Belgium and Croatia. (The Agreement with Belgium is expected to begin operating from 1 July 2005.) The International Social Security Agreements allow people living in those countries to claim an Australian payment overseas. The coverage of these Agreements varies, but typically they cover Age Pension and Disability Support Pension for severely disabled claimants. Some Agreements also cover Parenting Payment (single) for widowed people and/or Carer Payment for partners of pensioners. Some of the International Social Security Agreements that Australia has entered into with other countries impose restrictions on continuing to receive Australian Social Security payments overseas in third countries. www.welfarerights.org.au/isshsep07/default.htm
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Post by Banjo on Apr 4, 2010 15:42:19 GMT 7
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Post by spinaldamage on Jul 21, 2011 19:37:13 GMT 7
I'm new to all of this and absolutely confused. Mind you only some of the confusion results from my age. Medication takes care of the rest. I care for a friend who had a stroke. They receive the DSP> I receive the DSP and carer's allowance. I have lost everything I own to a 2 legged shark. I want to return to Canada after a very long absence with the person I care for. We have heard so many conflicting stories about whether or not we can still receive our payments from Australia if we shift. I am at my wits end. Can anyone help???
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Post by Banker on Jul 21, 2011 19:47:43 GMT 7
Welcome to the forum spinaldamage.
Have you asked C/L yet or have you contacted Welfare Rights Group?
Perhaps someone more qualified than me will come on and answer your Question. Most will be asleep now.
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Post by Banjo on Jul 22, 2011 6:49:27 GMT 7
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Post by spinaldamage on Jul 31, 2011 17:25:52 GMT 7
hey banjo
I'm a new member and absolutely confused. I always have been, but it's worse now because of effects of pain medication. I am an Australian citizen who wants to return to Canada to live. I am originally from Canada. The climate is so much better for my condition. I receive the DSP. I have read that we have agreements with places like Canada for DSP recipients, but I still don't understand. If I return to Canada can I still receive the DSP permanently? I would appreciate any help and feedback you can give me. I wrote something last week but did not get a reply.
Thanx
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Post by Banjo on Jul 31, 2011 19:56:02 GMT 7
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Post by freerange on Nov 2, 2011 16:22:31 GMT 7
Hi, I am new to the site.
Have a question and really hope someone will be able to help with an answer.
I would like to relocate to a country in Europe with an International S.S. Agreement where I have close family and also a residency. I called C/L and said that I would like to apply under the agreement.
I was told I needed to be assessed as "severely disabled" and it could take quite a while to get this done.
Does anyone know what the International Services assessment of "severely disabled" is based on and how it works?
I was under the impression that it's based on the original JCA and the medical reports . I have 0-7 hours of work capacity and no benefit of any training or rehabilitation in the next 2 years. My JCA was done two weeks ago.
Is there a time frame for C/L to complete this or it's up to them to take as long as they want? I was told it could take really long time, without specifying how long.
The problem is I urgently have to go to Europe to attend to some family matters and will be waiting for the decision there.
Can the decision be appealed while overseas if at all?
I'll appreciate it if someone can share their experience ...
Cheers
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Post by Banjo on Nov 3, 2011 12:52:42 GMT 7
Welcome freerange. Centrelink are quite capable of taking their time as many here can attest. It also comes at a time when they will have an enormous number of cases to reassess under the new plans to return disabled people to the workforce. The answer will also depend upon your age as well as the amount of time you have been on the pension. As you appear to be under 35 they may look a little harder at whether you can go back to work. The JCA 0-7% assessment is a plus in your favour though. One of the best organisations I have found for hurrying Centrelink along is the Welfare Rights Group and I suggest you give them a phone call in your state capital. You will get a fair hearing and good advice. www.welfarerights.org.au/pages/centre.aspx
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Post by david on Nov 5, 2011 12:39:50 GMT 7
I have a question, as a DSP receiver, 1. how many times in a year can one go overseas 2. each time you go, how long can u be away
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Post by Banjo on Nov 5, 2011 13:38:16 GMT 7
Asked and answered in the New Members forum.
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Post by brad61 on Nov 13, 2011 16:40:02 GMT 7
Hi I would just like to ask a question, with the new portabilty laws coming in in july 2012..is it only countries that australia has a international agreement with that dsp receipients can relocate to ?.if i passed the new assessment i would like to relocate to the philippines where i have family..but im guessing this is not possible if aus has no agreement with the philippines.?
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Post by Banjo on Nov 13, 2011 18:06:58 GMT 7
Welcome to the forum Brad. What we are waiting for is a ministerial promise to change the portability rules for those of us on the DSP deemed unemployable by June 30th next year.
New rules for overseas travel for people with severe disability
The Government also recognises that the DSP is an essential safety net for those who cannot work.
New, more generous rules from 1 July 2012, will allow people receiving DSP who have a permanent disability and no future work capacity, to travel overseas for more than 13 weeks while retaining access to their pension.
In addition, DSP recipients who are severely disabled and are required to accompany a family member who has been posted overseas by their Australian employer will be entitled to continue to receive their pension for the period of the family member’s posting. These pensioners will not be eligible for add-on payments such as the Pension Supplement or Rent Assistance while they are overseas. These changes deliver a net saving of $19.0 million over four years.
Existing portability rules will continue to apply to DSP recipients who may have some ability to work. Other working age payments will not be affected by these changes to portability arrangements.
Date: 10/05/2011
Joint Media Release with:
Senator Chris Evans, Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Jobs and Workplace Relations Senator Jan McLucas, Parliamentary Secretary for Disabilities and Carers Kate Ellis MP, Minister for Employment Participation
As you can see, this hardly constitutes legislation, but seems to be different from the current grandfathering laws.
Under the current situation you would have to observe the Centrelink rules governing residency which have been well discussed here.
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Post by wbmania72 on Nov 13, 2011 18:14:45 GMT 7
welcome.you can relocate anywhere you like,but does C/L still pays you DSP in anywhere? i think answer at the moment is no.unless the country you choose to live is has agreement with Australia. that means your DSP paid by both country's.they sharing the cost basically.this is whats my knowledge is,we all waiting for next year to see what will happen.regards
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Post by brad61 on Nov 13, 2011 18:31:27 GMT 7
thanks guys, well hopefully they will bring in that we can relocate "anywhere" but id hardly see the philippines or any country in asia sharing the costs of a dsp..could i ask what sort of ministerial promise was made to change the rules..?
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