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Post by Banjo on Nov 13, 2011 18:40:39 GMT 7
Exactly what you read in the media release I posted. (The bit underlined). If they come through with it it seems we would have unlimited portability to travel where ever and for as long as we like. Providing we meet the assessment requirements of a permanent disability and no future work capacity. Which, of course, will be determined by Centrelink.
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Post by brad61 on Nov 13, 2011 18:52:13 GMT 7
thanks banjo...so i guess if this is so then they would have to fit the bill for a full dsp without the other country fitting for half of it...actually ive been out of aus for 9 months now..first time ive ever travelled returning after 13 weeks and then back here to the philippines. i did ask someone about this from C/L in july and all she said was as from july 2012 you can leave indefinitely if you pass the new assessments. knowing quite well i was about to go back to the philippines it would have been nice of her to say..but.....we dont have an agreement with the philippines so you've got buckleys chance of a dsp there mate...
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Post by Banjo on Nov 13, 2011 19:00:41 GMT 7
i did ask someone about this from C/L in july and all she said was as from july 2012 you can leave indefinitely if you pass the new assessments.
That's a very interesting comment from a Centrelink employee Brad, I'll certainly be watching out for similar statements.
My take on the rules change is that we will remain residents of Australia, in that our pensions will be paid into our Australian bank accounts, unless otherwise organised, the only difference to the current situation being that we won't have to return every 13 weeks.
I intend to write to the minister soon and ask for a clarification of this, who knows, it may only be wishful thinking... a politician's promise can be a fairly fragile vessel in which to place one's hopes.
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Post by brad61 on Nov 13, 2011 19:44:41 GMT 7
just another quick question banjo.....assuming i pass the assessment in july..and if im deemed that i can go live elsewhere..would it be possible to still go for the 13 weeks then come back as usual and not get cut of dsp for continually going to the philippines, if i deemed unable to work in aus by C/L
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Post by Banjo on Nov 13, 2011 19:50:44 GMT 7
Presumably.
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Post by wbmania72 on Nov 14, 2011 15:00:55 GMT 7
how some one can move overseas to live there PERMANENTLY,but remain as a Australian resident? its like saying,'you sure can live in overseas forever and receive your pension from us as long as you residing on Australian soils or be a resident? what da?isn't it more strange paradox than chicken and egg? hellooooo...we dont want to RESIDE here any more,thats the main reason we want to RESIDE else where.how can youse expect us to go for this crap.if i have a ability to do that i could've be more famous than David Copperfield dont you think? thats it!!!!! euvreke!euvreka! i going to clone myself. its the only solution. regards
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Post by Banjo on Nov 15, 2011 7:40:49 GMT 7
Good, we could use an extra member....
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Post by largeone on Dec 19, 2011 6:24:14 GMT 7
I am a TPI War Veteran and also DSP Pensioner and my wife is my full time Carer with a C/L Carers Pension. With the new rules as of July 2012 on Portability, I hope she can still recieve the Carers Pension and not have to return within the 13 weeks as I wont have to. ??!!!!!!!
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Post by Banjo on Dec 19, 2011 8:25:02 GMT 7
There will be specific rules allowing DSP recipients to travel with their carer if the carer moves overseas with their employment. I'm not sure about carers moving with pensioners with unlimited portability though. I'll check it out.
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Post by sandycreekg on Jun 13, 2012 15:15:01 GMT 7
Hello to all here, I have recently joined this site and have been on DSP for nearly 3 years now and am 52 years old and have severe ostio arthritis and some sqashed disjks in my back and neck and classified with degenerative bone disease and aslo classified as not completely incapcitated. I have been going to Thailand 2 times a year for 3 months each time for remedila massage therapy that really helps me a lot. My question is if any one can help me is...what are the proceedures for applying for unlimited portability.....??.........or applying for extended stay for medical therapy...??.....as I have been watching the changes ans cutting of portablility overseas....?? Thanks for a great forum
sandycreekg
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Post by Banjo on Jun 13, 2012 15:34:52 GMT 7
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Post by baranghope on Dec 13, 2012 3:13:16 GMT 7
I may have been wrong in my post where I stated a non-resident can return and access Medicare. This site informs otherwise: australia.angloinfo.com/moving/leaving/To quote: Once an individual is no longer resident in Australia they cease to be eligible for public health care.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 7:25:50 GMT 7
I may have been wrong in my post where I stated a non-resident can return and access Medicare. This site informs otherwise: australia.angloinfo.com/moving/leaving/To quote: Once an individual is no longer resident in Australia they cease to be eligible for public health care. This is a very unusual message. Since when do DSP And AOP actually leave Australia permanently. Maybe you need to think about what you post before posting. There maybe the occasional people who have heaps of Superannuation that will be afford to leave Australia and live overseas. Just my opinion.
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Post by baranghope on Dec 13, 2012 13:15:55 GMT 7
I have posted nothing that is not already posted on a major expat website. I was surprised by what it says, that's all. If you can deny what they say, fine . . . that's what I was hoping for. What has it got to do with me, personally, Bedwin???
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Post by Banjo on Dec 13, 2012 13:56:17 GMT 7
Medicare told me that they considered a 5 year absence causes loss of residency. I can't see that residency... in Medicare's assessment... wouldn't be automatically restored on return by a citizen, BUT, it would be neccessary to go down and see them and convince them you intend to stay.
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