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Post by Banjo on Jun 23, 2014 10:17:47 GMT 7
If you started work in Australia at around 16 and your disability happened there I don't think it would matter.
Something you would need to ask Centrelink about.
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Post by hypoman on Jun 23, 2014 20:46:43 GMT 7
I just wonder how i woukld go spending most of my childhood with ADHD that turned into other issues later in life. ive been in Oz for 33yrs. they could turn around and say i had the illness prior to coming to australia. although it didnt cause problems until my 20's or so, then got out of hand when i was about 38yrs old. one thing holding me back from applying for UP was the fact that I didnt have 35yrs AWLR and I hate doctors and relly dont like seeing them.I just had to deal with things my own way which doesnt help when they look at my medical history!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 5:10:37 GMT 7
Here's some examples of exactly that hypoman:- Hope it helps, but looks like you would be ok to get over 96% of pension, going by example 1.
Cheers bear.
If you depart Australia on or after 1 July 2014, you will usually need to have lived in Australia as an Australian resident for 35 years in order to continue receiving your full rate of DSP after 26 weeks. If you have less than 35 years you will receive a smaller rate of DSP after 26 weeks outside Australia.
Example 1
Henri arrived in Australia in June 1990 with an existing disability. He travels to France in June 2014 and can be paid for his entire absence. After 26 weeks absence from Australia he will receive a rate of pension based upon his Australian Working Life Residence of 24 years. That is, he will receive 96%, 24/25ths, of the maximum means-tested rate of pension.
Example 2
Maria arrived in Australia in June 2005 with an existing disability. In September 2014, she travels to Malaysia and can be paid for her entire absence. After 26 weeks absence from Australia she will receive a rate of pension based upon her Australian Working Life Residence of 9 years. That is, she will receive 25%, 9/35ths, of the maximum means tested rate of pension.
Example 3
Robert arrived in Australia in June 2005. He became unable to work due to his disability in 2012 while an Australian resident. In September 2014, he travels to Thailand and can be paid for his entire absence. After 26 weeks absence from Australia there will be no change to his pension rate. That is, he will receive the maximum means tested rate of pension.
Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/3203/disability-support-pension-travelling-australia?page=1&scrollTo=28908#ixzz35sVKy2T8
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Post by scallywag on Jun 28, 2014 6:03:21 GMT 7
Here's some examples of exactly that hypoman:- Hope it helps, but looks like you would be ok to get over 96% of pension, going by example 1.
Cheers bear.
If you depart Australia on or after 1 July 2014, you will usually need to have lived in Australia as an Australian resident for 35 years in order to continue receiving your full rate of DSP after 26 weeks. If you have less than 35 years you will receive a smaller rate of DSP after 26 weeks outside Australia.
Example 1
Henri arrived in Australia in June 1990 with an existing disability. He travels to France in June 2014 and can be paid for his entire absence. After 26 weeks absence from Australia he will receive a rate of pension based upon his Australian Working Life Residence of 24 years. That is, he will receive 96%, 24/25ths, of the maximum means-tested rate of pension.
Example 2
Maria arrived in Australia in June 2005 with an existing disability. In September 2014, she travels to Malaysia and can be paid for her entire absence. After 26 weeks absence from Australia she will receive a rate of pension based upon her Australian Working Life Residence of 9 years. That is, she will receive 25%, 9/35ths, of the maximum means tested rate of pension.
Example 3
Robert arrived in Australia in June 2005. He became unable to work due to his disability in 2012 while an Australian resident. In September 2014, he travels to Thailand and can be paid for his entire absence. After 26 weeks absence from Australia there will be no change to his pension rate. That is, he will receive the maximum means tested rate of pension.
Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/3203/disability-support-pension-travelling-australia?page=1&scrollTo=28908#ixzz35sVKy2T8
Example 4 Fred was born in Austrailia and worked as a labourer from the age of 15 , suffered from a chronic illness that makes it difficult to hold down a job . After 40 years he is injured at work,  ed over by his employer and left with a severe disability. Fred applies for portability so he can get care that's not accessible in Australia. Fred has a problem relating the effects of his injuries so the secretary decides he can work as a door stop for 2 hrs a week. Fred is denied portability and told to register with a disability provider so the secretary's friends can make more $$ by giving him false hope. example 5 anyone? |
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Post by immiadvice on Jun 28, 2014 7:58:43 GMT 7
You forgot to add that Fred won't be able to get OAP until he is 70. All his labourer mates are in the same position. Laws decided by pollies that wouldn't know a day's work if it hit them in the face...
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Post by scallywag on Jun 28, 2014 8:29:46 GMT 7
You forgot to add that Fred won't be able to get OAP until he is 70. All his labourer mates are in the same position. Laws decided by pollies that wouldn't know a day's work if it hit them in the face... Fred can't afford $7 a visit to keep seeing his dr for his chronic illness and doesn't expect to live until 70 and being indigenous, most of his mates are dead already, the others read Murdoch's papers and think Fred is a bludger that wants to become a jetsetter. They also think Fred would make a fine doorstop. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 15:02:18 GMT 7
You blokes crack me up!  for days.
Fred has a problem relating the effects of his injuries so the secretary decides he can work as a door stop for 2 hrs a week. Fred is denied portability.
Fred ol' mate you really need to start seeing the doctor & nurse at the clinic. That big fella in town too eh. Them's the blokes can talk to the fella that reads the form then hands it up to who reads the form, and han........ ad infinitum. Then one day that secretary 'e'll sign a bunch of them forms 'n' you might be in that one eh. Ya gotta follow the bouncin' ball Fred. Jump through the hoops bloke. Play their game by their rules. Get yourself fully diagnosed, treated and stabilized. After that things won't seem half as bad. Honest.
Cheers bear 
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 16:28:39 GMT 7
Errant retrieved thoughts from previous post:-
And ya mates Fred, how of'en you see 'em eh! Really! They'll get over it when they've had enuff cement. Maybe even finally come to visit you. Being a doorstop may be better than being a nothing Fred, however it's mostly all the way down from there. You ain't gonna break the ceilin' brother. Next stop Doormat. 'N' ya know what that means eh! Not good....... And I know Fred, being a Born in Aussie Ozzie you know how to play the game. So play Fred, play hard, it'll be good fun, then YOU CAN be a jetsetter too.
It's your choice Fred me ol' cobber, the bouncing ball as far as you need too, if ya want either DSP or UP.
Just had my young autistic neighbour down, poor bugger. "They've certainly started the stock sorting.". He's been on the pension twice and only twenty-four. I'm not quite sure what it says about me, but since his Dad died a while back and left him alone, he comes to see me about all sorts of things. So when I'm on Holiday I really am on Holiday.
Since he went off the payment to try do some work, all attempts went belly up, he's been getting Newstart, surprisingly his nose is still out of the water. He's a tenacious wiry angry for the right sort of reasons young fella. Music is what drives him. I reckon he's got a dozen best sellers. Today he convinced me, through what he has done, he's on track to qualify for DSP with his conditions. And he's onto the ball as well. He also reckons it might be good fun. lol Chit Please:- DHS Psychology Budget. 1hr. @ $275.00. And I've got another thirty year old, lives with his mum and dad & three autistic sisters up the hill on the other side. He comes to see me about all sorts of thing too. The ol' blokes on a good wicket, he's payment nominee, but it's ninety percent about him. They live in a collection of gardensheds and old rundown caravans, everythings hunky dory. 'Cos they're indigineous too, same same Fred. Cheers
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Post by boozer on Oct 25, 2014 10:21:18 GMT 7
Just to get this straight, if I'm 28 and get UP I'll have my pension reduced (severely)? And does it kick in at 6 or 26 weeks out of the country? Because I expect to travel back to Australia twice a year anyway.
This is just a kick in the teeth if it applies to UP!
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Post by Banjo on Oct 25, 2014 10:30:33 GMT 7
I believe that if you have lived all your life in Australia then your AWLR will be considered to be 100% if you go on the DSP before 35 years are up.
Currently people can remain out of Australia for 26 weeks before the AWLR cuts in.
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Post by boozer on Oct 25, 2014 10:39:52 GMT 7
Cool, thanks for that Banjo. Looks like I will be okay either way :-)
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Post by fedup on Oct 25, 2014 15:22:03 GMT 7
It's all a crock,read my posts,
On one hand they say under a mutual agreement with NZ or Greece your payment won't be affected
BULLSHIT
BASE RATE $766 after six months in NZ $652
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Post by hypoman on Oct 26, 2014 8:36:50 GMT 7
my mums been in aus since 1981, worked and paid tax the whole time till retiring. shes now 87 and doesnt qualify for full OAP if out of aus more than 6months. her pension was reduced to $190 last year when she fell and couldnt make it back to aus. no letter, and they wouldnt even discuss the matter via email with me despite it being on my file as her guardian.this is the poor way the govt treat the elderly and disabled... shame.. shame... shame...
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Post by Banjo on Oct 26, 2014 9:20:23 GMT 7
They won't discuss much at all by email mate, they say it's "insecure".
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