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Post by aussieinusa on Nov 1, 2013 11:00:00 GMT 7
Like the subject says, I finally got paid for some work that I did in 2008-9. Do I have to report it to CL?
It's under $50, so shouldn't effect my payments in any case, but I do try to do things 'by the book' when it comes to CL.
The complicating factor is that I don't have a home phone atm (my mobile doesn't get signal in my new place) so I'd have to go down to the nearest office (which is 20 minutes drive each way) and tell them there. Or rather, wait for an hour to tell them. Ugh.
I'm sooo tempted to just not tell them, but I don't wanna get in trouble if they're monitoring my bank account, either.
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Post by Banjo on Nov 1, 2013 11:08:52 GMT 7
I love the idea of you stuffing them around for 50 bucks you made 5 years ago.
Send them a letter with copies of the paperwork, they will have to reply then.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 11:31:53 GMT 7
You should have advises Centrelink that you worked and were going to be paid the $50
Only trouble is if you call them.
Who knows what they will say.
Maybe
You should have advises us in 2008-09
But that would not have affected your pension.
Being under the $65.
Have fun
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Post by aussieinusa on Nov 2, 2013 3:26:32 GMT 7
I love the idea of you stuffing them around for 50 bucks you made 5 years ago. Send them a letter with copies of the paperwork, they will have to reply then. I honestly don't know if I even still have the paperwork. Like I said, I never expected the company in question to turn around and pay people they decided they didn't have to pay five years ago. Guess they've got a new accountant in who wants to clean up all the 'unpaid liabilities' on their books... I'm glad to see the money at last, but at the same time, ANYTHING out of the ordinary seems to cause huge hassles w CL. Ugh. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 7:24:18 GMT 7
I love the idea of you stuffing them around for 50 bucks you made 5 years ago. Send them a letter with copies of the paperwork, they will have to reply then. I honestly don't know if I even still have the paperwork. Like I said, I never expected the company in question to turn around and pay people they decided they didn't have to pay five years ago. Guess they've got a new accountant in who wants to clean up all the 'unpaid liabilities' on their books... I'm glad to see the money at last, but at the same time, ANYTHING out of the ordinary seems to cause huge hassles w CL. Ugh. Just saw this through Twitter Thaivisa. Human rights developments High Court rules “social security fraud” laws cannot apply retrospectively 10 May 2013 In 2011, the Federal Government introduced a criminal offence of failing to inform Centrelink within 14 days about a change in personal circumstances that could affect an entitlement to welfare payments. The law was said to apply retrospectively back to 20 March 2000. This week, the High Court ruled this criminal offence did not apply retrospectively. Accordingly, the applicant, a single mother who had received overpayments between 2007–2009 because her income had changed, could not be prosecuted for “social security fraud” under the 2011 law. Article 15 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, to which Australia is a party, prohibits retrospective criminal laws because it offends the principle that a criminal law should be sufficiently clear and precise so that when a person acts they know whether their conduct could lead to criminal prosecution. The High Court remitted the case back to the Magistrates’ Court in Victoria to determine whether the applicant’s failure to respond to notices from Centrelink in 2007–2009 requesting details of her change of circumstances could amount to “engaging in conduct” to obtain a financial advantage under existing laws in the Commonwealth Criminal Code, even if the 2011 law does not apply retrospectively. In its media release Victoria Legal Aid, solicitors for the applicant, emphasised that many people mistakenly failed to respond to notices or did not understand what they were required to do because English was not their first language and this should not expose them to criminal liability. www.hrlc.org.au/high-court-rules-social-security-fraud-laws-cannot-apply-retrospectively |
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Post by reddingo on Nov 3, 2013 16:40:57 GMT 7
I was under the impression that you could earn $150 a f/n without even having to inform centrelink
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Post by mick on Nov 4, 2013 11:22:28 GMT 7
Are you serious? Just put the cash in your pocket!
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Post by aussieinusa on Nov 5, 2013 6:48:35 GMT 7
Are you serious? Just put the cash in your pocket! It was paid into my bank account, so there's a paper trail. If they're monitoring my bank account, they'll see it. I did go down to a CL office and ask about it (I was right nextdoor anyway, so didn't take me long) and the lady there said there's no need to report it. She said that since it's so little, it wouldn't effect my payments anyway. I do find it a little annoying that they tell you over and over, "You MUST report ANY change to your circumstances! Or we'll send you to jail for fraud! Tell us EVERYTHING, bludgers!!" All those ads, all the crap they make you sign, all the stern talk when you put in forms... but really, their actual policy is, "You gotta tell us if it'd effect your payment; otherwise, it costs money for us to deal with your unimportant changes in circumstances, so frankly, we don't wanna know. Though if we ever do bring you up on fraud charges, we'll probably use the fact that you didn't tell us all this little stuff as evidence that you're generally dishonest. Suckers!" So they actually kinda expect you to know which changes in circumstances effect your payments and which don't, so you only ever report the former. But g-d help you if you ever get it wrong and get overpaid... |
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Post by Banjo on Nov 5, 2013 6:54:49 GMT 7
I'm a fan of online surveys, one or two of which pay accumulated reward cash into my bank account, I doubt it would be more than a $100 a year.
It's never occurred to me to declare it though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 8:02:10 GMT 7
I was under the impression that you could earn $150 a f/n without even having to inform centrelink If you have supplied you tax file no. Centrelink will know about it. Better to tell them about this If cash in hand Thats another story. |
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