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Post by leijona on May 4, 2015 20:58:37 GMT 7
I was reassessed two weeks ago because I'm one of the evil people on DSP under 35. I was told that I got a score of 20 in one table under the new legislation and that my DSP will continue. Haven't heard anything else from then so I'm assuming all is fine The woman conducting the JCA was actually very professional and empathetic - finally a positive to say about centrelink.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 5:11:25 GMT 7
l read somewhere almost all the under 35's ended up passing the reassessments , the government was probably hoping a lot would fail so they could shift them onto the lower newstart, so it turned out it was all a waste of taxpayers money putting DSP under the stress of reassessment all for nothing.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 8:19:50 GMT 7
It is back firing on them They thought they would save money it is now costing them more with all the assessments
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Post by mikey on May 5, 2015 8:22:20 GMT 7
I'll quote the Guardian newspaper Frugle, because I have read this in quite a few places. "Of the 16,000 under-35s who receive the payment, half were deemed able either to work for more than eight hours a week, or to engage in work-for-the-dole programs or work experience." People weren't being kicked onto Newstart, but new obligations were forced on to DSPers' who fit this profile, like the same obligations for those on Newstart. What's important with what Morrison said the other day is that for these 8000 people, once they are obligated to participate, it costs the government a lot more money helping them, and the government is not a fan of spending money.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 8:50:39 GMT 7
I was reassessed two weeks ago because I'm one of the evil people on DSP under 35. I was told that I got a score of 20 in one table under the new legislation and that my DSP will continue. The woman conducting the JCA was actually very professional and empathetic - finally a positive to say about centrelink. Feels good doesn't it? My partner was also reassessed but hers took months to reach a decision. We found the assessor here very sympathetic also, it's almost like they've been given an impossible task which they don't want to do.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 9:33:45 GMT 7
I'll quote the Guardian newspaper Frugle, because I have read this in quite a few places. "Of the 16,000 under-35s who receive the payment, half were deemed able either to work for more than eight hours a week, or to engage in work-for-the-dole programs or work experience." People weren't being kicked onto Newstart, but new obligations were forced on to DSPers' who fit this profile, like the same obligations for those on Newstart. What's important with what Morrison said the other day is that for these 8000 people, once they are obligated to participate, it costs the government a lot more money helping them, and the government is not a fan of spending money. Anyone know how many of the 8,000 under 35 DSP's made to do programs and look for work actually ended up getting a job? If most cant find work then l guess it will end up costing the government heaps of money paying the cost of doing programs.
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Post by Denis-NFA on May 5, 2015 12:24:29 GMT 7
Anyone know how many of the 8,000 under 35 DSP's made to do programs and look for work actually ended up getting a job? If most cant find work then l guess it will end up costing the government heaps of money paying the cost of doing programs. Lol...
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Post by confusedbeing on May 10, 2015 18:33:45 GMT 7
Yay you! I lost mine on a technicality. I needed a report from a clinical psychologist and mine is only a general one so my mental issues didn't get points. Managed to get 15 otherwise so I have no doubt that I will get it back once I have the correct report.
I too dealt with someone who was very professional and emphatic. The ARO I spoke to was also very good and strongly encouraged me to appeal after I saw the correct specialist. Despite losing my pension I can't complain about the staff.
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Post by muggins on May 11, 2015 5:20:58 GMT 7
Yay you! I lost mine on a technicality. I needed a report from a clinical psychologist and mine is only a general one so my mental issues didn't get points. Managed to get 15 otherwise so I have no doubt that I will get it back once I have the correct report. I too dealt with someone who was very professional and emphatic. The ARO I spoke to was also very good and strongly encouraged me to appeal after I saw the correct specialist. Despite losing my pension I can't complain about the staff. Was it a review? How long were you in receipt of dsp? C/L are obliged to find any little technical matter to deny a payment atm. A few years ago you probably would have passed. I survived my review a few years ago with only a general psychologist.
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Post by confusedbeing on May 11, 2015 9:58:37 GMT 7
Was it a review? How long were you in receipt of dsp? C/L are obliged to find any little technical matter to deny a payment atm. A few years ago you probably would have passed. I survived my review a few years ago with only a general psychologist. Yes it was a review. I got the DSP in 2010 with only a doctors report about my mental health. This time round I had the Doctors report and a psychologist one but that wasn't enough. Stupid thing is I reckon most technicalities are fixable so all they're doing is wasting time and money, not to mention the unnecessary distress of it all.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 10:42:34 GMT 7
Was it a review? How long were you in receipt of dsp? C/L are obliged to find any little technical matter to deny a payment atm. A few years ago you probably would have passed. I survived my review a few years ago with only a general psychologist. Yes it was a review. I got the DSP in 2010 with only a doctors report about my mental health. This time round I had the Doctors report and a psychologist one but that wasn't enough. Stupid thing is I reckon most technicalities are fixable so all they're doing is wasting time and money, not to mention the unnecessary distress of it all. When they told you your DSP was being reviewed did centrelink tell you you now need a clinical psychologist report? Did they move you on newstart now or are they letting you keep your DSP until you get a clinical psychologist report
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Post by confusedbeing on May 11, 2015 13:01:11 GMT 7
Yes it was a review. I got the DSP in 2010 with only a doctors report about my mental health. This time round I had the Doctors report and a psychologist one but that wasn't enough. Stupid thing is I reckon most technicalities are fixable so all they're doing is wasting time and money, not to mention the unnecessary distress of it all. When they told you your DSP was being reviewed did centrelink tell you you now need a clinical psychologist report? Did they move you on newstart now or are they letting you keep your DSP until you get a clinical psychologist report They did not, which I will be bringing up when I appeal. I was moved onto Newstart last week.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 13:23:08 GMT 7
When they told you your DSP was being reviewed did centrelink tell you you now need a clinical psychologist report? Did they move you on newstart now or are they letting you keep your DSP until you get a clinical psychologist report They did not, which I will be bringing up when I appeal. I was moved onto Newstart last week. Bad luck they moved you to Nostart, l hope they back pay your DSP when you are successful. Yes they should have told you that you needed a clinical psychologist report when you were reviewed, how were you supposed to know, they keep changing the rules every year to make our lives harder, how are we supposed to keep up with it all? Hopefully the fact they didn't tell you will help with the appeal.
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Post by mikey on May 11, 2015 14:34:50 GMT 7
Sadly, for the DSP (excluding residency) they have only changed the rules twice. 1st was when the new impairment tables were introduced, and 2nd when all under 35's were reviewed/committed to participation plans. BUT they have relied on their "customers" not being able to either know or care. Anyone reading this and not a member. Find out what your original assessment was, and make sure you have at least the minimum medical evidence. The government has budgeted $50 million for reassessments out to 2019, and the maths say that the under 35's aren't the only targets.
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Post by muggins on May 11, 2015 16:58:01 GMT 7
Sadly, for the DSP (excluding residency) they have only changed the rules twice. 1st was when the new impairment tables were introduced, and 2nd when all under 35's were reviewed/committed to participation plans. BUT they have relied on their "customers" not being able to either know or care. Anyone reading this and not a member. Find out what your original assessment was, and make sure you have at least the minimum medical evidence. The government has budgeted $50 million for reassessments out to 2019, and the maths say that the under 35's aren't the only targets. I didn't know about the 50 million dsp budget out to 2019. They would have spent millions already with the under 35's.
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