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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 16, 2019 10:19:14 GMT 7
I'd say that this shows proof positive it is a criminal enterprise set up by someone in Government (not looking at National Party types like Rushton or that other thing from Moree) to help another National Party royalty, Larry Anthony former Minister for Community Services 1999–2001 and Minister for Children and Youth Affairs from 2001 to 2004, who now runs a major Government lobbying firm.
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Post by rainyday on Oct 19, 2019 13:33:28 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 6:46:55 GMT 7
Andrew Forrest is all over Sky News, saying that every person who is a Centrelink client needs to be on an Indue card. Leaving aside the fact that it’s absolutely none of his business, as he’s neither an elected official nor an expert on human rights or sociology, there’s the worrisome business of his family history & how they acquired wealth. Click on the pic for all the goss; the apple doesn't fall far from the tree! Cheers bear trove.nla.gov.au/list?id=97172 ly history. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2490895627847123&id=1415019052101458
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 8:31:41 GMT 7
'War on the Poor': Cashless welfare card slammed for limiting opportunities for families
Children from families on the cashless welfare card have fewer opportunities to participate in school activities, says peak organisation for social workers. A peak organisation for social workers has warned that the controversial cashless debit card “punishes” people based on their location and is disproportionately affecting families within small communities.The Australian Association of Social Workers (AASW) has said the program won’t help address issues of alcohol, gambling and drug misuse within communities and instead efforts should be shifted to addressing underlying issues of inter-generational trauma. The cards were first introduced in Ceduna in South Australia and then in the East Kimberley region of Western Australia in 2016. Further trials of the program were then rolled out in the Goldfields region in Western Australia and the low employment Bundaberg and Hervey Bay region in Queensland in 2018. The program "quarantines" 80 per cent of social security benefits onto an eftpos bank card so only essential items from approved vendors may be purchased rather than alcohol, drugs or gambling products. The Department of Social Services states on their website that the cards were introduced in an attempt to reduce "the overall harm caused by welfare fuelled alcohol, gambling and drug misuse". National president of the Australian Association of Social Workers (AASW), Christine Craik, told NITV News that the official line for initiating the program was misguided. “I think if you are talking about wanting to intervene and assist in communities that could be participating in behaviours that aren’t particularly the best behaviours that there could be, I think you need to look at why people behave in certain ways,” she said. “So you need to look at inter-generational trauma… you need to look at peoples mental health issues, you need to look at a whole range of reasons that are causing issues in communities if there are some.” Ms Craik said that instead of focusing on data and statistics, governments must listen to the experiences of people who are currently using the card and re-evaluate if they are necessary. “Unless you are talking to people who are living it, you are not getting the true information that you need in order to be able to make decisions,” she said. “I think [the card] increases stigma and shame," she said. "We see it as a war on the poor... it is restricting people on welfare to about $200 dollars a month." Ms Craik also said the cards are impacting school participation as children from families on the cashless welfare card are often not able to access to the same opportunities as other kids, said Ms Craik. “If you’re trying to get your kids to school, every year there are different textbooks, there's different uniforms, there’s different excursions, there’s different camps, there's different things that come up where you have to have cash,” she said. “It is very much disadvantaging children.” The Cashless Welfare Card has been in operation in Ceduna and Western Australia's East Kimberley region since 2016. A Ceduna resident, who requested to remain anonymous, told NITV News she feels “extremely embarrassed” about being on the cashless debit card. “When I go away from home here, people know exactly where we come from due to the card,” she said. “I am being painted with the same brush as those that ARE in need of support etcetera ... I can't just assist my family that I used to with a loan etcetera ... cause of the 20 per cent that I get in cash.” The resident also said that alcohol abuse within the community has not been reduced. “You only have to look around Ceduna and you can see it, plus crime rates have shot through the roof. “It’s becoming worse because people are trying to get cash any way they can.” As a mother of a child with severe autism, she said that the annual Oysterfest in Ceduna was an opportunity to be together as a family, but because she was limited to only withdrawing 20 per cent cash from her benefit, they couldn’t enjoy the festival in its entirety. “We only had $200 to give to our child. She has high needs autism [and] she didn't understand that I only have 20 per cent of my pay that I could give to her. So, once that was spent - which was very quick - we had to leave," said the resident. The federal government currently has draft laws before the lower house in an attempt to extend these trials and introduce the cashless welfare program into Cape York and the Northern Territory. If the bill is passed the cards will be rolled out to an additional 22,000 people, with around 82 per cent said to be Indigenous. www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2019/10/23/war-poor-cashless-welfare-card-slammed-limiting-opportunities-families?fbclid=IwAR2-4KrKpy6rpmDrrWM9kRFjPHzQtuIQUib5RHKRcZ86xGQms75WFj66VUg
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 8:34:15 GMT 7
Selective reporting for selective demographics.....the independent media needs to smarten up because; "I am, you are, we are all AUSTRALIANS!" Bear
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 9:29:10 GMT 7
Dr Rob Bray gives evidence to Cashless Debit Card Committee Hearing
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 7:41:19 GMT 7
IT glitch halts cashless welfare card payAn IT glitch has delayed welfare payments to thousands of Queenslanders on the cashless debit card. People are normally paid on Wednesday evenings for Thursday morning, senior official from the Department of Social Services Liz Hefren-Webb told a Senate estimates committee in Canberra on Thursday night."Unfortunately people weren't able to shop if they didn't have any funds left, until the funds came in at 10am this morning," she said. The error occurred because the Reserve Bank file with social security payment information wasn't properly loaded by Indue, the operator of the cashless cards. "Indue was the only financial institution affected," Ms Hefren-Webb said. About 6000 welfare recipients in the Queensland cities of Bundaberg and Hervey Bay are on the card, which has been rolled out in the area since January. The cards quarantine 80 per cent of Centrelink payments so the money can only be spent on essential items, rather than alcohol or gambling. They are also being trialled in Kununurra and the Goldfields in Western Australia and Ceduna in South Australia. Department officials were also asked about the government's proposal to drug test welfare recipients. Five thousand people on either Newstart or Youth Allowance would have their saliva, urine or hair tested for drugs. "Will the hair be plucked from their head? What if the person's bald?" Labor senator Malarndirri McCarthy asked. The details would be clarified if the legislation passed, she was told. The department is using figures from the 2013 national drug strategy household survey report for the basis of the government's policy. The six-year-old data of more than 23,000 Australians found about five per cent of the nation had used an illicit substance in the week before taking the survey. About 24.5 per cent of unemployed Australians said they had used drugs, compared to 15 per cent of those employed. From that data, the department expects about two per cent of people tested to fail the initial and follow-up tests. The two-year trials would occur in Sydney's Canterbury-Bankstown area, Logan in Queensland and Mandurah in Western Australia. Those who refuse would have welfare payments immediately cancelled. Department of Social Services deputy secretary Nathan Williamson couldn't say how many medical groups or addiction experts supported the trial. He also could not outline how the department would determine its success, which the government argues is to help people shake addiction and find work. Social Services Minister Anne Ruston argued the drug tests would make welfare recipients job ready. www.9news.com.au/national/it-glitch-halts-cashless-welfare-card-pay/4177e1ca-5ad0-4987-b980-49893d750a4f
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 7:47:26 GMT 7
Cashless Card fail..... attempt to obfuscate by using Drug Testing argument. Is it only me, or does anyone else see a pattern here? Noooooooo.......bear; don't start seeing patterns again. Cheers bear
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 28, 2019 14:53:09 GMT 7
Cashless Card fail..... attempt to obfuscate by using Drug Testing argument. Is it only me, or does anyone else see a pattern here? Noooooooo.......bear; don't start seeing patterns again. Cheers bear It's the swirling lights.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 28, 2019 19:37:24 GMT 7
Wouldn't it have been fantastic if all 6,000 recipients had rolled up to every Police Station in the area and lodged a complaint that there money was stolen by 'indue'!
6,000 recipients at bare minimum of $600 is $3.6 million.
An IT glitch occurred after 'indue' has been doing this since January!
2 things, either 'indue' are going broke and/or they sacked the only person that knew how to do the upload and good ol Leisure Suit Larry Anderson stuffed it up himself.
And the high and mighty senior official from the Department of Social Services Liz Hefren-Webb who put the blame back on the Convicts because "Unfortunately people weren't able to shop if they didn't have any funds" should be kicked to the curb.
What a load of steaming Conberra dung.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 28, 2019 20:16:58 GMT 7
bearThat IT 'glitch' thingy is really, really serious. I don't know who reads these posts, Senator Siewert ?, but IT'S TIME that this whole 'indue' boondogle was brought into the light. Specifically the contract, whether there is a Trust involved and whether 'indue' are compliant, www.asic.gov.au/regulatory-resources/credit/credit-general-conduct-obligations/complying-with-your-trust-account-obligations-as-a-credit-licensee/Personally I'd like to know what representations and inducements 'indue' may have offered to politicians who are all gung ho for trialing the 'indue' card in their electorate. And personally. several lifetimes ago, I did make electronic distributions of millions on behalf of a private corporate organization. I was the one who pressed the button and I knew I was under microscopic inspection and had to maintain ultra compliance with all the laws, rules and regulations or I was in deep dudu. Didn't worry me because I knew the system.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 20:29:54 GMT 7
bear That IT 'glitch' thingy is really, really serious. I don't know who reads these posts, Senator Siewert ?, but IT'S TIME that this whole 'indue' boondogle was brought into the light. Specifically the contract, whether there is a Trust involved and whether 'indue' are compliant, www.asic.gov.au/regulatory-resources/credit/credit-general-conduct-obligations/complying-with-your-trust-account-obligations-as-a-credit-licensee/Personally I'd like to know what representations and inducements 'indue' may have offered to politicians who are all gung ho for trialing the 'indue' card in their electorate. And personally. several lifetimes ago, I did make electronic distributions of millions on behalf of a private corporate organization. I was the one who pressed the button and I knew I was under microscopic inspection and had to maintain ultra compliance with all the laws, rules and regulations or I was in deep dudu. Didn't worry me because I knew the system. Denis-NFATwiggy Forrest's Minderoo Foundation had a big part in the card as well. theaimn.com/social-security-privatisation-and-income-management-profiteering/Andrew Forrest's Minderoo Foundation recommended the Government allow banks to issue the cards to tackle stigma. Indue though is not a bank. mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-27/the-mental-toll-of-the-cashless-welfare-card/10026614In 2013, Andrew Forrest was chosen to lead a review into Indigenous employment and training programs, which was to report to the Australian government.[7] Alan Tudge was to work with Forrest on the review,[8] and Marcia Langton was also on the review committee.[9] The review was delivered on 1 August 2014, with 27 recommendations.[10] Forrest recommended that the healthy welfare card be mandatory for unemployed people, carers, people with disabilities and single parents.[11] According to Langton, the review recommended that the card only be used in areas where most households were receiving welfare, with the goal of ending intergenerational poverty.[12] The Forrest Review did not review the impact of the BasicsCard or other income management schemes when recommending the healthy welfare card.[13] While Forrest initially envisaged a fully cashless card, Tudge altered it to be mostly cashless.[14] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cashless_Welfare_Card
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 28, 2019 21:03:13 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 7:39:02 GMT 7
There’s mounting evidence against cashless debit cards, but the government is ploughing on regardless
It would be nice if the “facts” being thrown around in the debate over the Cashless Debit Card were peer-reviewed, or even just evidence-based. Instead, there are anecdotes. And it’s these that are being used to justify the government’s decision to spend A$128.8 million over four years continuing the existing trial of the cashless debit card in five sites in Western Australia, Queensland and South Australia and extending it to Cape York and all of the Northern Territory.The extension will lift the number of people on the card from 11,000 to 33,000. Most will be Indigenous people - its disproportionate targeting has already attracted the attention of the National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples and the Human Rights Commission. The cashless card was recommended to Prime Minister Tony Abbott in a reportfrom mining billionaire Andrew Forrest in 2014. He initially called it the “Healthy Welfare Card”. It wasn’t a new idea. Some A$1 billion dollars had already been spent on income management programs in the past, many of which had failed to meet their stated objectives. It’s been tried before The biggest was the Basics Card introduced as part of the 2007 Northern Territory Emergency Response (the “Intervention”) which was only made possible through the suspension of the Racial Discrimination Act. Research published by the Australian Research Council funded Life CourseCentre of Excellence found its introduction was correlated with negative impacts on children, including reductions in birth weight and school attendance. It points to several possible explanations, including increased stress on mothers, disrupted financial arrangements within households, and confusion about how to access funds. The government has not addressed these serious issues. Instead, it now seeks to place those who have been left on the basics card for over ten years now, on to the cashless debit card. What was ‘Basics’ has become ‘Indue’The 2016 Indue Cashless Debit Card. indue.com.au The “Indue” Cashless Debit Card trials underway since 2016 direct 80% of each payment to the card (Forrest asked for 100%) where it can only be spent on things such as food, clothes, health items and hygiene products. Purchases of alcohol and withdrawals of cash are not permitted. The trials are compulsorily for everyone living in the trial sites receiving a disability, parenting, carer, unemployment or youth allowance payment. My own research in the East Kimberley found it makes those people’s lives harder. Those targeted are a broad group needing support for a broad range of reasons, yet all are treated as if they have issues with alcohol or drugs or gambling. Most of the people on it do indeed have a common problem: that is trying to survive on meagre payments in remote environments with a chronically low supply of jobs. Of all the claims made for the card, the least believable is that it gets its users into jobs. What it does do is limit access to cash needed for day to day-to-day living. It makes it hard to buy second-hand goods, transport and (at some outlets) food, and can make living more expensive. For anyone actually struggling with addiction, it can’t substitute for treatment, a concern raised by medical specialists. While the government says the trials have been community-led, in reality consultation has been limited to a small group of people not subject to the card. When leaders in the East Kimberley who had agreed to the card withdrew their support, the government continued with the trial. Its success has not been established In addition to relaying on anecdotes, the government continues to cite a widely condemned report by Orima Research. Among others, the Australian National Audit Office found this report was inadequate to draw any conclusions from. Profiting from the Cashless Debit Card has been Indue, a private company whose deputy chairman up until 2013 is now the present President of the National Party, Larry Anthony. Indue’s involvement is helping to create a two tiered banking system in which most people have a choice of financial providers, but those subject to the card are restricted to one, which provides a very different product to the others. Indue is also not a member of the Australian Banking Association, and so is not bound by the consumer protection provisions of its Banking Code of Practice. The inquiry is due to report next week. Given the expensive and harmful consequences of the trial, it ought to find the extension is not justified. There are better ways to spend $128.8 million that would actually help vulnerable people. theconversation.com/theres-mounting-evidence-against-cashless-debit-cards-but-the-government-is-ploughing-on-regardless-123763
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