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Post by Banjo on Nov 15, 2017 7:42:31 GMT 7
www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/AATA/2017/1994.htmlAt hearing, the applicant explained that Dr Giles was always concentrating on physical symptoms because they were the most pressing over the years. She said that this did not mean that she was not suffering from a mental health condition. The applicant said that she has discussed medication with Dr Giles; that they had agreed to try everything else first and that they were going through a list of alternatives. She said that she has tried meditation, massage and acupuncture because she needs to find some treatment that would fit; besides medication. The applicant was adamant that antidepressants were a last resort and that they were still looking at other options. In regards to the ARO decision dated 19 August 2016, which states that the applicant had commenced anti-anxiety medication, the applicant advised that this is incorrect and that at the time she was only on vitamins.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 8:43:37 GMT 7
You have to be a Special Person to be a JCA! Cheers bear The Job Capacity Assessment report dated 28 March 2017 (“JCA”), notes that the applicant had a capacity to work within 2 years with intervention of 15 to 22 hours per week. Light less skilled work is recorded as suitable work for the applicant. The rationale for this finding is as follows:“Mr Lloyd (20.1 .17) notes that client “currently works staggered hours of no more than half hour continuously as she loses focus but in a 24-hour period can do 4 x half hour = 2 hours per day”. With further intervention and support, particularly to stabilise other medical conditions and modifications made to the work environment, work capacity may increase to 15-22 hours per week.”www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/AATA/2017/1994.html
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Post by mspurple on Nov 15, 2017 10:07:11 GMT 7
I can't help but wonder if one of the requirements to be a JCA is that you must rate everyone as more capable than the medical professionals who know them and are familiar with their medical issues rate them. It just seems like every person who has doctors saying they are only capable of a certain amount of study or work due to their conditions, also has a JCA disregarding what the Drs have said. It makes me wonder why they even bother insisting that you provide medical reports from professionals when they blatantly disregard what the specialists say, and try to prove every doctor, specialist or health professional as wrong. It really does not make sense that a JCA can over ride Drs advice and recommendations.
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Post by tasjo on Nov 15, 2017 11:11:01 GMT 7
I had centrelinks solicitor try to tell me that the JCA was 'more qualified' to assess impairment than any of my doctors... even though she didn't even know the difference between osteo and rheumatoid arthritis
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Post by mspurple on Nov 15, 2017 12:09:08 GMT 7
I had centrelinks solicitor try to tell me that the JCA was 'more qualified' to assess impairment than any of my doctors... even though she didn't even know the difference between osteo and rheumatoid arthritis Oh wow. I guess the doctors are stupid then. They go to school for years and years and pay out many thousands of dollars to get their qualifications, JCA's just get employed by centrelink. How can a JCA be more qualified when they don't know the difference between RA and OA, I would have just thought most people would know the difference..... especially those in the medical profession like the JCA- lmao. I suppose the scary thing about all this is that our society has just evolved to accept the ridiculous displays of power that these people show. They get away with bullying, bluffing, straight out lying and many other wrong and damaging behaviours, things that are illegal for any work place, individual or organisation to display, and the people just accept it as the way things are as there is not a lot that we as individuals can do about it. It is just shameful what they get away with.
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Post by krystal on Nov 30, 2017 8:07:17 GMT 7
You have to be a Special Person to be a JCA! Cheers bear The Job Capacity Assessment report dated 28 March 2017 (“JCA”), notes that the applicant had a capacity to work within 2 years with intervention of 15 to 22 hours per week. Light less skilled work is recorded as suitable work for the applicant. The rationale for this finding is as follows:“Mr Lloyd (20.1 .17) notes that client “currently works staggered hours of no more than half hour continuously as she loses focus but in a 24-hour period can do 4 x half hour = 2 hours per day”. With further intervention and support, particularly to stabilise other medical conditions and modifications made to the work environment, work capacity may increase to 15-22 hours per week.”www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/AATA/2017/1994.htmlA very special person with no math skills. 2 hours a day for a week (7 days) = 14 hours Even if the person does do a job that allowed her to work 1/2 hour around breakfast, 1/2 hour around lunch, 1/2 hour around dinner and 1/2 hour around before she went to bed every day of the week Monday through Sunday, just what kind of "modification made to the work environment" is going to help her stay focused longer than 1/2 hour? I'm glad the Tribunal Member used some common sense.
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Post by tasjo on Nov 30, 2017 15:44:36 GMT 7
Maybe they could employ someone to poke her when she falls asleep?
It's ridiculous... how is an employer supposed to make those sorts of 'adjustments' in the real world?
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Post by tasjo on Nov 30, 2017 15:46:02 GMT 7
It reminds me of a family friend 30 odd years ago who was denied disability on the basis that he could have found work as a 'bed tester' because he had to lie down frequently throughout the day.
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Post by nomadic on Nov 30, 2017 19:28:12 GMT 7
I'm qualified for that also but SSSHHHHH please.
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Post by nomadic on Dec 1, 2017 6:56:55 GMT 7
I just read the appeal finding, well i scanned it as to bloody long for my concentration. Is this person still alive? Impossible to believe they have so many problems. But even more impossible to believe their DSP was cancelled. Looks like the worst case we have ever seen. Makes the guy who lost his leg recently look like a total wimp. How long will this outragous behavior by Satan continue? Another waste of tax payers money at best. More torture at worst.
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Post by anonmouse on May 29, 2018 0:50:49 GMT 7
You have to be a Special Person to be a JCA! Cheers bear The Job Capacity Assessment report dated 28 March 2017 (“JCA”), notes that the applicant had a capacity to work within 2 years with intervention of 15 to 22 hours per week. Light less skilled work is recorded as suitable work for the applicant. The rationale for this finding is as follows:“Mr Lloyd (20.1 .17) notes that client “currently works staggered hours of no more than half hour continuously as she loses focus but in a 24-hour period can do 4 x half hour = 2 hours per day”. With further intervention and support, particularly to stabilise other medical conditions and modifications made to the work environment, work capacity may increase to 15-22 hours per week.”www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/AATA/2017/1994.htmlSo this is the new requirements while on DSP, So what happens if you where to leave the country to get something medical done would the JCA what's that like a Centrelink case worker cut a travelling Australian travelling for not working everyday. How does that work just let them know you're travelling.
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Post by nomadic on May 29, 2018 6:40:28 GMT 7
anomouse, you can only leave Australia to get medical treatment if that treatment is not available in Australia, Otherwise you would get cut off. If not available in Australia it is possible to apply to go overseas and get it.
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Post by Banjo on May 29, 2018 7:25:46 GMT 7
DSP portability for medical treatment overseas is very difficult to get, in fact I'm having trouble thinking of a successful case.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 15:27:21 GMT 7
You have to be a Special Person to be a JCA! Cheers bear The Job Capacity Assessment report dated 28 March 2017 (“JCA”), notes that the applicant had a capacity to work within 2 years with intervention of 15 to 22 hours per week. Light less skilled work is recorded as suitable work for the applicant. The rationale for this finding is as follows:“Mr Lloyd (20.1 .17) notes that client “currently works staggered hours of no more than half hour continuously as she loses focus but in a 24-hour period can do 4 x half hour = 2 hours per day”. With further intervention and support, particularly to stabilise other medical conditions and modifications made to the work environment, work capacity may increase to 15-22 hours per week.”www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/AATA/2017/1994.htmlSo this is the new requirements while on DSP, So what happens if you where to leave the country to get something medical done would the JCA what's that like a Centrelink case worker cut a travelling Australian travelling for not working everyday. How does that work just let them know you're travelling. anonmouse having been granted on mental health and musculoskeletal issues myself, I found myself lost in a quagmire and lost track of DHS & Centrelink processess and procedures for a number of years so, I understand where you are at, a little at least! A JCA is now part of the process for being granted DSP. It stands for job capacity assessment and is meant to be done by an allied health professional employed by Centrelink who is meant to be familiar with the applicant's conditions. This is not always the case, as it was in the AAT case you see hear. The JCA assessor stuffed up and the person won at the tribunal. Hopes this clears that up for you. Cheers bear.
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Post by anonmouse on May 30, 2018 21:46:04 GMT 7
I've never heard of a allied health professional employee, Has anyone got one here are they legit and professional?
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