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Post by Banjo on May 4, 2012 15:45:59 GMT 7
I'd certainly be asking for my unlimited portability. Regarding your doctor you could always ring your former quack and ask him to recommend one in your local area if need be. I'm sure he would send on your file and I'd be surprised if the new guy over ruled it.
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Post by howdo on May 5, 2012 5:26:24 GMT 7
Okay, thanks Banjo.
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Post by spaceyone on May 9, 2012 9:03:39 GMT 7
I have just had another look through my Job Capacity Assessment Report and I have a few questions guys. My impairment rating is 20 and my baseline work capacity is 8-14hrs. In my future work capacity and rational diagnoses, it states that my work capacity is not expected to increase despite further intervention. I am closer to 60 than 50 and I was wandering if I should apply for unlimited portability in July. Hi Howdo Sorry, I didn't see this question when it was posted. Taking into consideration the new 'no capacity to work' ruling in relation to staying overseas, C/L will become more pedantic about work capacity ratings. You are listed as having a capacity to work, although only 1 or 2 days per fortnight, according to their reckonings. This means you are not exempt from the workforce. One has to have a rating of 0-8 hours to have that. The assessor has written that your work capacity is not expected to increase, but she has not stated that it would decrease. To achieve exemption, one would have to have a GP/Specialist state that their condition not only won't improve over the next two years, but will deteriorate. You would then also need a JCA report which states that you have now dropped to below the 8 hour work capacity threshold. Since the new 6 week rule will not come into affect until the first of next year, I would just carry on as usual this year. Doing the 13 week thing, without questioning the apple cart and drawing attention to myself, for as long as I could. You have a 50/50 chance with a new GP. Having a second opinion to back up your case can't hurt. However, the GP's are afraid of supporting anyone who might be dodgy, so you might get one who won't commit fully to excusing you from work. On the other hand, if the old GP or a new one, will write that your health has already further decreased since your last JCA, that might set you on the path to a better work capacity rating.
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Post by barnsy on May 23, 2012 7:48:36 GMT 7
What if a person as emphysema ? no rateing for breathing problem
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Post by zorro1 on May 23, 2012 14:29:12 GMT 7
Hi Spacey
"Since the new 6 week rule will not come into affect until the first of next year, I would just carry on as usual this year. Doing the 13 week thing, without questioning the apple cart and drawing attention to myself, for as long as I could."
Does the permanent portability still start on the 1st of July or is being pushed back?
Also if a recipient has a re rate of a condition that is significantly worsened then I imagine that C/L would be bound to proceed with a new JCA. If not than a request for a new medical by C/L doctors would be the way to go
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Post by rowdy on May 23, 2012 14:51:24 GMT 7
Hi Spacey "Since the new 6 week rule will not come into affect until the first of next year, I would just carry on as usual this year. Doing the 13 week thing, without questioning the apple cart and drawing attention to myself, for as long as I could." Does the permanent portability still start on the 1st of July or is being pushed back?Also if a recipient has a re rate of a condition that is significantly worsened then I imagine that C/L would be bound to proceed with a new JCA. If not than a request for a new medical by C/L doctors would be the way to go The amendments stipulate that the commencement date if 01/07/2012 for unlimited portability. Still awaiting royal assent.
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Post by barnsy on May 24, 2012 7:09:04 GMT 7
If I go overseas on june 1 I can stay 13 weeks and get my dsp payment ?
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Post by Banjo on May 24, 2012 7:45:25 GMT 7
You need to check Barnsy, if they think your residency is ok you can still take 13 weeks for the rest of this year, the 6 week rule comes in on 1st Jan 2013.
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Post by Banjo on May 24, 2012 7:53:12 GMT 7
If Centrelink approve it you can take 13 weeks right up to 1/1/13.
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Post by spaceyone on May 24, 2012 17:06:26 GMT 7
Hi Zorro. No, I don't know sorry, I haven't been reading up on the residency and portability changes in depth, since it doesn't apply to me. Just reading what the board tells us, and so haven't tried to sus out what they are really up to either.
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Post by barnsy on May 29, 2012 7:44:39 GMT 7
Hello Guys, I had a second heart attack and found out that my right corinary artery is completely blocked and they ould not put a stent or replace it as other arteries are helping to supply a little blood to that side of the heart. I have to walk seriously slow and not excert myself to much. and take 10 tablets now 2 times a day foe the rest of my life. I see on the impairment table this is not covered, so what they do not see this as a disability ?
Barnsy
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Post by Banjo on May 29, 2012 8:30:56 GMT 7
What we have to do is wait and see what's in these assessment forms, I doubt that anyone in your condition will be considered employable. There's a degree of pessimism going around that we're going to get shafted again but there is nothing to be done until we actually know. If the worst occurs then we fight them again.
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Post by spaceyone on May 29, 2012 11:37:48 GMT 7
Went through my son's Centrelink records a bit more thoroughly just now.
I see that 2 of his medical certificates from GP's were rejected by C/L counter staff. Those certificates were not scanned to the records.
None of his other medical certificates that we handed in, were mentioned or scanned to file either. I will have to go through my own records to see just how many there were.
The only one they did accept, was from his Specialist/Surgeon, for the 3 month period surrounding his surgery.
No other medical information was ever scanned to his file, meaning documents tendered to earlier JCA's, until the JCA we had in December 2011.
That JCA, conducted by a social worker, is not listed officially as being about anything medical, just personal issues. However, she attached the medical information we provided at the time, and granted him a Disability Supplement?
Going to be hard to prove your cases, in the face of such deceptions.
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Post by anx1973 on Jun 2, 2012 11:34:07 GMT 7
I have just had another look through my Job Capacity Assessment Report and I have a few questions guys. My impairment rating is 20 and my baseline work capacity is 8-14hrs. In my future work capacity and rational diagnoses, it states that my work capacity is not expected to increase despite further intervention. hi all I have been on DSP on and off for about 11 years , my payment was cancelled about midway through that time period . I have a social disorder and get terrible anxiety when around people . I'm 38 . Recently I have tried to take th first steps to gaining some part time work . However I have come around to thinking about completely forgetting the idea . It was my wife's idea but to be honest , i know I wont be able to hack it . I had a JCA done by a local doctor and then went to a meeting at a job service. My case manager there that I met was really good , in term's of pretecting my DSP . This meeting remember was voluntary , I wanted it . At the meeting he asked me to assess certain thing's. Most of my abilties were put in the ' severe ' term but my confidence was put ' moderate ' . Since I have heard about the unlimited portability , I would like to apply for it . As I am having second thought's about being able to get work and keep it . Do you think my volunteering for the job search will have a detrimental effect on my getting the unlimited portability ? I feel if I could travel back in time a month then I would be a ' shoe in ' except as I have recently taken this step maybe it will hurt my chances ? Also as I said the dude at the job service is really good , do you think I could even get him to change the JCA to one which would be looked more kindly in term's of the portability ? ie : confidence back to severe ? I havent worked for 11 years but the fact I have looked for work the last few weeks , will it hurt my chances ?
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 2, 2012 12:06:57 GMT 7
hi all I have been on DSP on and off for about 11 years , my payment was cancelled about midway through that time period . I have a social disorder and get terrible anxiety when around people . I'm 38 . Recently I have tried to take th first steps to gaining some part time work . However I have come around to thinking about completely forgetting the idea . It was my wife's idea but to be honest , i know I wont be able to hack it . I had a JCA done by a local doctor and then went to a meeting at a job service. My case manager there that I met was really good , in term's of pretecting my DSP . This meeting remember was voluntary , I wanted it . At the meeting he asked me to assess certain thing's. Most of my abilties were put in the ' severe ' term but my confidence was put ' moderate ' . Since I have heard about the unlimited portability , I would like to apply for it . As I am having second thought's about being able to get work and keep it . Do you think my volunteering for the job search will have a detrimental effect on my getting the unlimited portability ? I feel if I could travel back in time a month then I would be a ' shoe in ' except as I have recently taken this step maybe it will hurt my chances ? Also as I said the dude at the job service is really good , do you think I could even get him to change the JCA to one which would be looked more kindly in term's of the portability ? ie : confidence back to severe ? I havent worked for 11 years but the fact I have looked for work the last few weeks , will it hurt my chances ? Hi Anx. I would say that yes, going to see one of those agencies will now be used against you. This is exactly what they want us all to do, so that they can seize control of our career and now even our treatments. The job guy might be being nice to you, but that is because, the harder a case you are to find work for, the more they get paid for having you on their books. Your age will also be a barrier. While just outside the age group they are targeting to get back into the workforce, those under 35, you are not far off that. They would assess you as having another 30 years in the workforce, based on qualification for OAP. I find it sus that they have marked your confidence as moderate. Since your ability to interact with other people, is your biggest barrier to working, they have down played this issue, by bumping up your status. They might not want to change that. I was marked in my JCA as having less than average reading and writing skills, because there were plenty of cleaning jobs around they wanted to put me into, despite years of computer and secretarial experience prior to having kids. JCA's cannot be changed easily, nor by our own choosing. They are carefully crafted documents, designed to say we are fit to work, when we are not. We have no right to steer their contents away from their own goals. JCA's are not usually done by GP's, they only complete the medical details. Was your JCA done at the employment agency, or by a Centrelink worker operating out of a GP's clinic? To change your JCA and your rating, you need to generate a new Job Capacity Assessment interview. You could try just asking C/L for one, explaining that there has been a change in your circumstances. The other way to do it is to lodge a medical certificate with C/L, this will generate one. However, since you are already on DSP and not subject to having to look for work at the moment, they might not want to accept a certificate exempting you from same.
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