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Post by krez on Apr 16, 2018 12:05:21 GMT 7
Hi...I just got cut off the dsp after 20 years...only because i applied for "Unlimitted portability"....Ive lodged an appleal but maybe i should just re apply?...anyway...does anyone know if its possible to apply during an appeal????thanks, Krez
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 12:23:50 GMT 7
Welcome to the forum krez I can't answer whether or not you can reapply while undergoing an appeal, but I'm sure another member may be able to. As to reapplying in itself, I suggest the slowly slowly approach, as if you have been cut off you obviously have not met minimum points criteria. As for your appeal, the same suggestion applies. There is a lot to have in order for any chance of a successful outcome. Up to date medical reports firstly. Hang in there and see where the thread goes. Cheers bear.
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Post by mspurple on Apr 16, 2018 12:53:15 GMT 7
Welcome to the forum krez, I am not able to answer your questions either, but I am sure one of the other members will be able to. Good advice from bear as usual. I think bear is right with what he says about you not meeting the current minimum criteria for DSP, this would be the only reason they would be able to cut you off I would suspect. I think it may be a good idea to get hold of your doctors records and also familiarize yourself with the impairment tables that they use now to assess DSP. mspurple
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 14:32:54 GMT 7
Hi...I just got cut off the dsp after 20 years...only because i applied for "Unlimitted portability"....Ive lodged an appleal but maybe i should just re apply?...anyway...does anyone know if its possible to apply during an appeal????thanks, Krez Did you know there was a risk you could lose your DSP if you apply for unlimited port. that's why l wont apply for it, l would like u/p but don't want to take the risk as l got my DSP before 2012 and don't know how l would go under the new medical tables. Good luck with your appeal, if your appeal fails l guess you could apply for the DSP again
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Post by latindancer on Apr 16, 2018 15:14:59 GMT 7
Crikey... are you guys saying that they re-assess people completely when they apply for U.P. ?? And that people can be deemed OK and kicked off completely ??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 15:25:13 GMT 7
Crikey... are you guys saying that they re-assess people completely when they apply for U.P. ?? And that people can be deemed OK and kicked off completely ?? Not deemed OK but deemed not disabled enough to still qualify under the new 2012 medical tables. yes if you apply for u.p theres a risk you can lose your DSP, a pity terrifying prospect of ending up on Nostart of $250 a week and having to look for work if you have been on the DSP 10 or 20 years, maybe they want to make people too afraid to apply for UP to keep us in Australia
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Post by latindancer on Apr 16, 2018 15:31:46 GMT 7
That's crazy ! Something has to give somewhere, and hopefully it is not disabled people.
If someone cannot work and has a medical certificate, I thought Centrelink were obliged to put them on Sickness Benefits. (Though I seem to recall someone here saying that there is a time limit on that these days).
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Post by nomadic on Apr 16, 2018 16:10:53 GMT 7
I can only advise to get in touch with welfare rights and/or legal aid. it absolutely stinks and best wishes to you. How on earth can filling in a form decide if you are disabled or not? They are just stinking creeps. GGGGRRRROOOOWWWLLLLING again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 17:45:45 GMT 7
Crikey... are you guys saying that they re-assess people completely when they apply for U.P. ?? And that people can be deemed OK and kicked off completely ?? That's the deal latindancer When you call to have the forms sent to you they inform you that your DSP may be cancelled in no uncertain terms. At least they did up to four years ago. For someone with mental illness, unsure of my determination and more than a little paranoid of creating waves by applying for my file I didn't have the fortitude to see my application through. In fact the stress waiting for my first ever JCA saw a major episode occur. In effect, applying for UP made me seriously unwell, and I suspect many others as well! Cheers bear
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Post by ghostbuster on Apr 16, 2018 19:02:28 GMT 7
I can only advise to get in touch with welfare rights and/or legal aid. it absolutely stinks and best wishes to you. How on earth can filling in a form decide if you are disabled or not? They are just stinking creeps. GGGGRRRROOOOWWWLLLLING again. I not only dislike c/l but my hatred is so much if i start to explain i will be banned.
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Post by tasjo on Apr 16, 2018 21:21:44 GMT 7
Krez... my understanding is that you can apply and appeal a decision at the same time.
With the DSP cancellation I woukd strongly suggest requesting a copy of your information via freedom of information to see why your DSP was cancelled.
When I enquired about UP I was told about the risk of losing DSP due to a reassessment. For me it isnt quite as bug a risk because my DSP was granted under the 2012 tables.
If you dont already please familiarise yourself with the 2012 tables. A lot of people fall down with mental health impairmemts because of the need to be diagnosed by either a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist.
There are things you could check before requesting a review or appeal to guve yourself a better chance of reinstatement.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 3:06:10 GMT 7
That's crazy ! Something has to give somewhere, and hopefully it is not disabled people. If someone cannot work and has a medical certificate, I thought Centrelink were obliged to put them on Sickness Benefits. (Though I seem to recall someone here saying that there is a time limit on that these days). l think l read theres a time limit maybe 13 weeks where they accept medical certificates
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Post by nomadic on Apr 17, 2018 6:02:50 GMT 7
Yes ghosty i also detest them like nothing else. The human rights abuse and just a lack moral decency defies belief in a first world country. Australia is now no better tan Hitlers Germany or Pol Pots Cambodia in regards to the poor and disabled. But don't get me started either. I'm sure a good lawyer could solve all these individual problems but alas not enough to go around. It is all based on legal loop holes that are aimed at getting people off welfare, so as i saw last night we can spend more on the military. Kill off the disabled so we have more money to kill off everyone. POLITICIANS!. Sorry i got a bit started.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 6:58:24 GMT 7
THe liberals love to go on about welfare sending the country broke and so on but the liberals hand out $68 billion in tax concession per year to wealthy peoples supperannution , not to mention other welfare for the rich like negative gearing. While in comparison Newstart is $11 billion and the DSP $18 billion. The wealthy get far more taxpayers handouts then the unemployed and disabled, the wealthy don't even need the money while the unemolyed and disabled need it just to survive. The liberals , probably labor also want to cut welfare so they can give more money to the wealthy. Abbott once said people on only $200,000 a year are battlers and he felt sorry for them , l'm sure the liberals think such people deserve more taxpayer handouts and tax concessions and being cruel to people on welfare is one way to fund it
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Post by tasjo on Apr 17, 2018 8:34:53 GMT 7
That's crazy ! Something has to give somewhere, and hopefully it is not disabled people. If someone cannot work and has a medical certificate, I thought Centrelink were obliged to put them on Sickness Benefits. (Though I seem to recall someone here saying that there is a time limit on that these days). l think l read theres a time limit maybe 13 weeks where they accept medical certificates The max length of a centrelink medical certificate is 13 weeks, it is also 13 weeks to request a review or appeal...
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