Portability want to live O/S 12mths in Asia, but how? thanks

[thistime]

I was granted DSP 2003 and on my enquiry with DSP call centre today was advised I was last reviewed in 2009, that must have been when I sought to access a disability job network.

But regardless centrelink operator said can apply for unlimited portability but will be subject to current assesments for DSP. When I applied back in 2003 depressive disorder, sleep apnea and lower back degeneration meet DSP requirements. At 2009 the depressive disorder and other initial things as above maintained the DSP.


I have looked at the impairment tables, juts in the mental health box and quite likely with current supporting docs meet the 20 points, I have not looked at the other areas, yet.

So unsure how to proceed ie if I don't meet current tables am I booted off DSP?

What's the best way to plan to apply for unlimited portability and what's been others experience?

I read in this forum to apply under FOI for my file re assigned points, but Im thinking that back in 2009, the point system as is now did not exist?

Also in 2004 I suspended my DSP than and recommenced some employment, but at that time I could for up to 2 years, but I was unable to continue in employment in 2005 so simply ceased that and upon notice to Centrelink the DSP was restored. But I'm thinking even if I suspended DSP sold up etc and self supported O/S upon restore would be on current impairment tables, so I guess than still back at same criteria for unlimited portability.

[nomadic]

Yes, the rules got tougher in 2012 so you could be pushed off although with the news only this week of scrapping the reviews that may help. You will need to do your homework first i suggest strongly. Others will give more essential advice on that i suspect. good luck.

[Deleted]

thistime if you get your file under freedom of information (FOI) it will tell you exactly your points, and for what. It takes about a month and will come as an email attachment.

FOI:- www.humanservices.gov.au/organisations/about-us/access-information/freedom-information#a4

It can be done online, is free. Write them an email asking for your file from the time you applied to the current day.

Email:- [e-mail]

To have any chance of real success with UP you will need to provide up to date medical reports from your GP & Specialists. You need 20 points on one table, 0-2 hrs work capacity, with no improvement for five years. You will also need to do a job capacity assessment (JCA) with an allied health professional Centrelink contractor. These can go awry when the assessor has no connection to your disabilities. 

P.S. If you don't meet 20 points overall, i.e. 10+5+5  you'll lose DSP and be put on Newstart. I cancelled my UP application in 2014 due  to becoming seriously unwell. I received my file earlier this year and even on the old points system it would have been a shoe-in unless like a member puts it, "I had a miraculous cure or recovery, due to an incompetent or mismatched assessor."

Also be advised; if you sell up and can afford to stay OS until Aged Pension, when you go back to apply, unless you've been in and out on about a 60/40 basis for Oz, in the two years prior;  you won't get your Aged Pension full portability until two years after, and it will be stopped on leaving the country.

Depending on your age you may get through. Cheers bear

[tasjo]

For mental health impairment also check who diagnosed you before you apply for anything different... If you weren't diagnosed by either a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist you would be taking a big risk by being reassessed.

Like bear said, if you meet 20 points overall then you would be unlikely to meet the UP criteria but you would retain the DSP.

Welfare rights can provide some good templates for your medical team to use in supporting evidence. One thing to remember is that the JCA is looking for supporting evidence of your impairments and their impact on your ability to work, they are not specialists and sending in x-rays/specialist reports is quite likely to confuse things rather than help. Try to avoid them needing to interpret whether your specialist/doctor's wording is the same as their own (a good example is centrelinks definition of 'stabilised'). Having not worked for more than 5 yrs it may well make the process of UP slightly easier for you.
Also remember that if they do reject your claim you have the right to request a review and appeal to the AAT. Level 1 appeals are quite straightforward and often change the decision.

[latindancer]

Nov 5, 2018 11:56:26 GMT 7 tasjo said:

they are not specialists and sending in x-rays/specialist reports is quite likely to confuse things rather than help. Try to avoid them needing to interpret whether your specialist/doctor's wording is the same as their own (a good example is centrelinks definition of 'stabilised').

This is very good advice, Tasjo. Unfortunately it is something I am still learning in my private life. "Less is better".

As a general rule, any more detailed information you give them which is more than necessary is simply giving them ammunition to use against you. Some bureaucratic idiot will decide to argue the point about some detail or other.

Hopefully the specialist's report does not have to go into too much detail.
The specialists are simply giving their professional opinion based on all the private details you have given them.

You could even request that they not give too much, and explain your fears about argumentative bureaucratic idiots who presume to act as judges.

[tasjo]

I think with Centrelink giving them heaps of medical information when their criteria is to assess your capacity to work is making things more complicated than needed.

I had information misinterpreted and genuinely believe that the letters that addressed the impairment tables were what got me over the line with the appeals.