The Say No Seven:- Fighting the CDC Feb 18, 2020 10:30:34 GMT 7
Post by bear on Feb 18, 2020 10:30:34 GMT 7
bunyip your belief appears to be incorrect, Irrespective of what's being pedalled in the media. Here is a breakdown of the legislation currently before parliament. It's been posted here previously.
Old age pension is exempt ,rpbably because the liberals would lose too many votes if it wasn't, anyway it raises the question how could disabled and carer pensioners travel overseas when the card don't work overseas, what if a family member is seriously ill overseas and you need to visit them
If this legislation passes, aged pensioners in the new trial sites will be put on the card. Cheers bear
P.S. Apologies...... I'll try to get the proposed areas correct in future posts.......N.T. (Arnhem Land) and Cape York (The Gulf)
We have fact and cross checked the following post to the absolute best of our abilities. Rather than a post that details our arguments and empowers those who would use them as counter argument study tools, here is the 'bare bones' run down on what the current bill before parliament, Social Security (Administration) Amendment (Income Management to Cashless Debit Card Transition) Bill 2019, will mean if it is passed:
👉 THE AGED PENSION WILL BECOME A "RESTRICTABLE" PAYMENT SUBJECT TO INCOME MANAGEMENT UNDER THE SOCIAL SECURITY ACT - Subsection124PD(1) ( See attached image. If this bill passes, age pensioners in Cape York and NT *will* be forced onto Indue cards.)
👉 IN 124PJ(1A)(b) (i) and 24PJ(1B)(a) (b) sections of the bill, and these say that in Cape York and the NT, this payment will be a 70/30 split.
Age pension will be the ONLY 'restrictable payment' to not be 100% 'on the card'. Trigger payments are split 80/20.
👉 In subsection: 124PJ(1) (b), the government also wants to grant itself the right to place 100% of any payment on forced income management in the NT (location ref 124PGE).
👉 A ONE YEAR TRIAL EXTENSION ALL CURRENT TRIAL SITES, NEW/LATEST END DATE 2021 - 124PF(1)(b)
👉 IF YOU ARE A PAYMENT NOMINEE AND PLACED ON AN INDUE CARD, THE PERSON YOU ARE CARING FOR LOOSES THEIR AUTOMATIC EXEMPTION FROM THE TRIAL. 24PG(1)(d)
👉 NO MORE POST TRIAL TIME LIMIT ON EVALUATIONS ( currently 6mths) AND NO NEW REQUIREMENTS ARE SPECIFIED FOR ANY EVALUATION REPORTING ONGOING.
👉NO MORE REQUIREMENT FOR INDEPENDENT EXPERTS TO INTERVIEW TRIAL PARTICIPANTS OR EVALUATE THE TRIALS- 124PS(2) and (3)
👉NO MORE CAPS ON TRIAL NUMBERS - 24PF(1)(b)
👉 THE LEGISLATION ACT 2003 WILL BE CHANGED TO PERMIT CARTE BLANCH MODIFICATION OF THE LEGISLATIVE INSTRUMENT IN FORCE AT ANY TIME - 124PD
👉 PARTNERS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE RECIPIENTS OF A CATEGORY P* CENTRLINK PAYMENT WILL BE PUT ON THE TRIAL ( CAPE YORK AND NORTHERN TERRITORY) - 124PGD (1)(b) and 124PGE(2)(b)
👉 PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT STUDYING FULL TIME WILL BE PUT ON THE TRIAL - 124PGE (2)(f)( NORTHERN TERRITORY)
👉REQUIREMENT FOR ALL PERSONS RECEIVING TRIGGER PAYMENTS IN DESIGNATED TRIAL ZONES TO BE SUBJECT TO INCOME MANAGEMENT - Sub item 47(2) ( CAPE YORK AREA/NORTHERN TERRITORY)
👉 _ANY_ PART OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE INDUE TRIAL- Subsection124PD(1)
👉 COMMUNITY BODIES ARE REMOVED FROM AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE PARTICIPANT INCOME SPLITS. - Section124PB
Unlike the case in other trial zones where removing community panels and control is a GOOD thing as it limits the amount of corruption and non elected groups taking up power over peoples live and limits the bureaucracy accessing personal information etc, if applied in Cape York, that same clause, (Section124PB in the bill) is a DEVASTATING possibility .
If this bill passes as is, it will ends the Cape York Region community run community led income management program for good. It is the ONLY third party income management program in Australia to have shown ANY promise as a model. LNP have lied to this community. What they have promised is NOT what the bill says.
By including the Cape York income management area in this 'transitions' bill, the LNP are deliberately manipulating the legislative process as the two models are very different programs . See our 2019 Bill submission to senate for more understanding on this issue.
👉 THE INCOME SPLIT CAPE YORK AND NORTHERN TERRITORY (WITH CAVEAT*) WILL BE 50/50 - After subsection124PJ(1A)(b) (i) and 24PJ(1B)(a) (b) AND INSTALLMENT PAYMENTS OF RESTRICTABLE PAYMENTS WILL BE 70/30
👉 * A VARIATION FOR NORTHERN TERRITORY PARTICIPANTS MEANS THAT BY NOTIFIABLE INSTRUMENT A TRIAL PARTICIPANT INCOME SPLIT CAN BE ALTERED UP TO 100% BY THE MINISTER. 124PJ(2A)(a)
👉 THE QUEENSLAND COMMISSION, CHILD PROTECTION AND EMPLOYEES OF THE NT GOVERNMENT WILL BE INCLUDED IN AUTHORISED INFORMATION SHARING BODIES - Application and transitional provisions.
These are the key points in the bill as we see them.
If this bill passes, it will turn tragedy into atrocity.
This bill is cruel, it is irrational, it is devious and it is racist.
This bill has been tabled despite government having ABSOLUTELY NO EVALUATION DATA OR EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER to justify either expansion or extension.
This bill completely corrupts the trial objective process and as a program deployment, cements this policy as a weapon. This bill removes key protections from everyone and amounts to a seizure of control over Aboriginal communities specifically.
IN A BLATANT AND VILE ACT OF RACISM, THE EXPANSION OF PAYMENT CAPTURE TO INCLUDE THE AGE PENSION IS BEING "TEST CASED" ONLY IN CAPE YORK (124PGD) AND THE NORTHERN TERRITORY ( 124PGE)
They think you wont care because its only happening 'to them'. They are counting on wider 'relief', cultural bias and existing prejudices to help them create a false sense of security among the wider population.
They are trying to use racism as their pathway in - AGAIN.
The think you have forgotten this is how they got the entire policy stated - by targeting Aboriginal communities and then rolling it out wider and wider.
They are counting on public ignorance!
Yet we ALL know, that today the aged pension will be 'just' for the NT and Cape York, tomorrow or the next bill, it will be the nation just like the rest of the roll outs have been designed. And if you haven't figured that much out by now given what this government has already done over the last four years, then we can't help you.
For four years and right up until last week the LNP have stood there before the entire nation saying it would never happen - that aged pensions would never be 'on the card'. Time and time again they have lied in parliament, in media and to the Australian people, right to our very faces. Yet here it is.
NOW YOU KNOW.
It is also exceedingly clear by the content of this bill that all power, authority and self determination will be stripped from Aboriginal communities in the Territory and in Cape York - AGAIN. Intervention take 2 is a reality if this bill passes!
We hate to say it, we do....but it's time to burn the barn down folks.
👉 Bill has been sent to the Community Affairs Legislation Committee.
CALL EVERYONE. This bill must NOT pass.
👉The Bill: Social Security (Administration) Amendment (Income Management to Cashless Debit Card Transition) Bill 2019 parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;page=0;query=BillId:r6399%20Recstruct:billhome
👉 TEXT of the Bill :https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r6399_first-reps/toc_pdf/19171b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf
👉 The explanatory memorandum' : parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/ems/r6399_ems_0db91448-bcc6-4d81-b59b-003d85d2997a/upload_pdf/19171EM.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf
👉 The legislative/disallowable instrument is also paired with a notifiable instrument in this legislation and both apply to all sections of the income management regime.
These devices are 'power tools', granting government the right to alter wording in the Act at any time, empower or disqualify any limit or restriction 'from time to time' and except where specifically demanded to do so, they are not required to notify anyone that they have done it.
Notifiable instruments are not subject to parliamentary scrutiny or sunsetting and do not require an explanatory statement. This change, when combined with the change they are seeking to make to the Legislation Act 2003 are 'big deals'. This is the LNP changing the laws again, to suit their agenda.
This is HOW they do it and reflects exactly how they did it in 2015 - how they 'got around' existing laws and protections to make this crime against the people 'legal'. The ultimate impacts of these changes may not be felt for years but they will be felt by everyone