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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 17:50:38 GMT 7
Hi All,
I’m 36 year old male, currently on the DSP approved on my first application on 09/02/2021 and applied for U/P paperwork the very next day. I was approved for DSP under mental health I received 20 points or severe impairment rating.
I have lodged all required paperwork for U/P I have lodged required Centrelink paperwork part A&B and a new report from my treating psychiatrist addressing the 5 years CITW for U/P and lodged two independent medico-legal report from 2 separate psychiatrist (both stating permanent work incapacity)
So now I’m just waiting for another JCA for U/P my previous JCA was on 15/01/2021 for the DSP process so I’m curious if it will be at all anything different. Obviously I’m confident of receiving the 20 point impairment rating just a matter of getting the required CITW all supporting evidence states this but up to the JCA assessor.
Good luck to everyone on there journey for the DSP and U/P knowledge is power
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Post by nomadic on Mar 11, 2021 21:11:32 GMT 7
Welcome cert. You have certainly surprised me in getting DSP on first application. We were under the belief that no one gets it first time anymore. Were you on jobseeker prior to that? We have heard of people taking years to get it after appeals and numerous applications. Any advice as we currently have a member on their 2nd application in almost 2 years and still on jobseeker. Others will give info on UP but good luck with both getting it and being allowed to leave when you do. Where are you headed?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 21:30:02 GMT 7
Welcome cert. You have certainly surprised me in getting DSP on first application. We were under the belief that no one gets it first time anymore. Were you on jobseeker prior to that? We have heard of people taking years to get it after appeals and numerous applications. Any advice as we currently have a member on their 2nd application in almost 2 years and still on jobseeker. Others will give info on UP but good luck with both getting it and being allowed to leave when you do. Where are you headed? The total time for lodging to approval was 49 days. I believe where people fall short or get confused with the DSP process is it’s not so much about what disability you have as long as it’s diagnosed, treated and stabilised. It’s decided on how the condition impacts your functioning in regards to the relevant impairment table. So for mental health I addressed all the requirements listed in table 5, and my treating specialist use the same wording as Centrelink use in there examples. Most important things is to address each question in the impairment tables and use the language Centrelink use. I wasn’t on jobseeker, I wasn’t on any Centrelink payment, I had just served my preclusion period because of my workers compensation payout. I applied once my 6 year wait was up! But for me my treating psychiatrist is very good and always writes total and permanent incapacity no future work capacity, the aim of treatment is not cure, but management of symptoms to prevent worsening.
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Post by nomadic on Mar 11, 2021 21:36:52 GMT 7
Cheers cert, I'm sure others need to heed your experience with it all.
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Post by goga33 on May 6, 2022 17:01:30 GMT 7
Hi everyone, My husband and I are on DSP from 2006/2010. We want to back to our home country. We got the IP forms and send back with doctor"s reports on 28.02. We are still waiting for JCA. Do anyone know how long we have to wait? We want to go to live in our home country. Do you know can we go after JCA. We can give them phone number where they can contact us. We don't have anyone here.Our son and his family left this country a few months ago. he and his wife were our carers.Also does anyone know who is good to give us advice about selling a house and buying overseas. Thanks
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Post by bear on May 6, 2022 17:54:12 GMT 7
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Post by scuzzy on May 7, 2022 0:46:53 GMT 7
Hi everyone, My husband and I are on DSP from 2006/2010. We want to back to our home country. We got the IP forms and send back with doctor"s reports on 28.02. We are still waiting for JCA. Do anyone know how long we have to wait? We want to go to live in our home country. Do you know can we go after JCA. We can give them phone number where they can contact us. We don't have anyone here.Our son and his family left this country a few months ago. he and his wife were our carers.Also does anyone know who is good to give us advice about selling a house and buying overseas. Thanks When I rang Centrelink International Services to request the I.P paperwork several months ago, the Centrelink officer said something like "We are experiencing long wait times these days and what some people are doing which you may also want to do is once you've done the JCA, go overseas and wait for the outcome. Your DSP will suspend after 28 days, but if you get approved for I.P we will reinstate your DSP and backpay it from the time it was suspended". I also seem to remember another member of this forum telling me that someone they knew had done this and it worked out just fine. Personally, I wouldn't do this because it just increases the likelihood of some kind of bureaucratic error that may have a negative impact on my DSP, but then again I am the over-cautious type. From your post, it sounds like you are intending to leave Australia permanently and live back in your home country. Like Bear said, you should check whether your home country is an 'Agreement' country. If it isn't, my feeling is that leaving Australia permanently to go and live in a non-agreement home country could have a negative impact on your DSP. Maybe one of the other members here may be more up to date with Centrelink's handling of residency issues these days, but it sounds to me like something that could cause problems unless your home country is an 'Agreement' country. One more thing, apparently Centrelink are very busy right now dealing with all the flood relief payments as well as auditing all the Jobseeker/ Jobkeeper payments handed out in a hurry in 2020-21. Before the floods, people were waiting 2 months from the time of applying until the JCA but now I imagine that could be double. But I'm a bit surprised that you haven't even been given an appointment date for the JCA if you applied in February. Like Bear said, it could be worth contacting them to see what's going on. In closing, I think you should research what effect leaving Australia permanently to move back to your home country will have on your DSP.
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Post by bear on May 7, 2022 7:54:32 GMT 7
I think UP/IP negates residency issues for the most part scuzzy , though because of bureaucratic bungling there will always be exceptions to that rule; and you will/can, continue to be paid your DSP indefinitely outside of the country. Interestingly; the news now coming to light is that after five years away continuously, it's being alleged by the department your pay must be paid monthly into an overseas account, as indicated in jessemojo4 's 'Dsp reduced' thread. This has been reinforced by another member in a PM. Some legislation to this would be nice to see...... So if anyone has the time; yes please. Cheers 🐻
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Post by hiker on Jul 28, 2022 7:12:26 GMT 7
Hi everyone and thankyou for adding me to the forum . I'm 61 yo and got approved for the dsp approx 9 months ago , I'm mainly here to find out about portability as I have some medical issue's I would like to try and get treatment for OS . I see there's a lot of info in the Portability thread but wondering if this info is still applicable in 2022 ? There's a lot to read through but is it still possible to get 28 days portability then upto 13 weeks unpaid in 2022 ? The reason I ask is the medical procedure's etc will take longer than the 28 days I understand is available . And how do I go about the process ? Do I contact Centrelink and ask for the forms ?
Cheers Hiker
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Post by anthonydsp on Jul 28, 2022 7:35:53 GMT 7
Hi everyone and thankyou for adding me to the forum . I'm 61 yo and got approved for the dsp approx 9 months ago , I'm mainly here to find out about portability as I have some medical issue's I would like to try and get treatment for OS . I see there's a lot of info in the Portability thread but wondering if this info is still applicable in 2022 ? There's a lot to read through but is it still possible to get 28 days portability then upto 13 weeks unpaid in 2022 ? The reason I ask is the medical procedure's etc will take longer than the 28 days I understand is available . And how do I go about the process ? Do I contact Centrelink and ask for the forms ? Cheers Hiker
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Post by anthonydsp on Jul 28, 2022 7:38:39 GMT 7
Call international services and tell them you want to apply for UP of your pension but be aware you could actually lose your pension in the process of applying for UP then you will have a Job capacity assessment to determine if you get 20 points on one single table to be approved for UP
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Post by bear on Jul 28, 2022 8:12:57 GMT 7
G'day hiker and welcome to the forum. So far as we're aware the 13 weeks unpaid is still available. We have a member currently taking advantage of that provision. Talk with Centrelink International Services 131673 to confirm, and when advising of your travel, always ask for a confirmation letter and receipt number of the call. Forms are only required if you wish to apply for UP/IP. Before applying for UP/IP it's recommended to get your file under FOI. It's free to do, takes about one month and allows you to do some self assessment to see whether your likely to qualify. Eg. Whether you have 20 points on a single table, have a CITW (continuing incapacity to work) for more than five years and 0-8 hrs work capacity. Without these criteria you will not be successful with an application. A basic form letter and email address is at the bottom of the first post in the link below...... dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/7005/foi-denials-obfuscationExtra portability for overseas medical procedures are only available if the procedure is not available in Australia, however, if you can self fund and take advantage of the 13 weeks, there'd be no need to mention medical procedures. Keep it simple; just going on a holiday!! Cheers 🐻 "If you’ve already travelled overseas for 28 days in 12 months, you may still get DSP if you travel again. You may get it for up to 28 days per trip. But, you must be travelling for one of these approved reasons: to attend an acute family crisis – for example to visit a family member who is critically ill for specific humanitarian reasons – for example to adopt a child or attend custody proceedings to get eligible medical treatment that is not available in Australiato take part in the Paralympic Games to take part in a qualification or preparation event in the 12 months before the Paralympic Games." www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/what-rules-are-for-disability-support-pension-if-you-travel-overseas?context=22276
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