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Post by itsmylife08 on Aug 14, 2023 16:35:56 GMT 7
I'm just putting this topic out there, as I renewed my visa last Friday at Immigration in Cebu, where I've been for the past 8 years or so, and have got to know some Immigration officers quite well in the meantime. During a conversation, the Immigration officer asked me did I ever get permanent residency, of course, the answer was no, he said why not and that I should look into it if I intended to stay here, as I wouldn't have to pay for visa's anymore. Obviously, It got me thinking, but my question is would it affect my Australian pension in any way if I did? and how could they find out anyway, My apologies if I have posted a similar post before. Cheers Itsa  |
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Post by bear on Aug 14, 2023 19:24:05 GMT 7
Off the top of my head Itsa, and knowing nothing of the legalities, it's not something I'd ever entertain doing, even if becoming a permanent resident was easy to do here; which it's not.
IIRC a member's argument at one time, when asked if they were resident here was, that due to their type of visa requiring leaving the country every three months, they saw themselves as being a tourist and they didn't see how the department could possibly see them as being a resident. Not to mention not having a permanent place of abode.
I view my yearly extension in much the same way, and, even though our government has different definitions of what makes you a resident of another country I consider it a farce that the Australian government can even consider us resident of another country just because of someone's living situation i.e. a long term rental agreement. It's all just a play on words IMHO but, irrespective of whether they do or don't, I think having to renew a visa on a regular basis makes you more of a tourist and less of a local resident.
It could be a slippery slope to nowhere good.....Eg. First residency without a hitch....okay no worries. Second citizenship......whoa! Remember the residency battles people here went through??
Cheers 🐻
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Post by itsmylife08 on Aug 14, 2023 19:59:58 GMT 7
Just as a matter of interest I also picked up my ACR Card on Friday, Alien Certificate of Registration, and it has the word Tourist on it, so they are in no doubt what my status is here in the Pines, which might not be such a bad thing either if our government review their definitions on what makes you a resident of another country. Thanks bear for putting a different perspective on the matter... Cheers Itsa |
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Post by nomadic on Aug 14, 2023 20:14:21 GMT 7
just my uncertain opinion is that if Clink did find out you would have problems as they asked me a few times if I was a Thai resident. because I believe if I had of said yes I would have lost my dsp as you must be an Aussie resident to get clink and you can't be a resident in 2 countries. I felt like they were trying to trap me. no idea if they could find out unless you told them. but I agree with Bear. don't fix it if not broken or at least do a lot of research first.
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Post by tasjo on Aug 15, 2023 5:30:48 GMT 7
I believe something like this is where a lot of research would be needed and each example would be different...
As an example, as a born UK Citizen, someone can hold dual citizenship with no issues. I don't believe it is the same for someone Australian born.
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Post by nomadic on Aug 15, 2023 19:58:59 GMT 7
I believe something like this is where a lot of research would be needed and each example would be different... As an example, as a born UK Citizen, someone can hold dual citizenship with no issues. I don't believe it is the same for someone Australian born. yes, it is. I was born in Australia and like many others, I also have a U.K. passport. Even if your parents were born in oz but your grandparents were British you can get a U.K. passport. No idea on other countries though. |
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Post by JJJ88 on Aug 16, 2023 12:36:38 GMT 7
Gday!
Having permanent residency or citizenship of another country or dual citizenship does not affect Australian Pensions. It would be only if you chose to renounce your Australian Citizenship heaven forbid (which would be a terrible idea) then you would not get an Aussie Pension.
Cheers
J
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Post by JJJ88 on Aug 16, 2023 18:01:34 GMT 7
Itsa it's not a bad idea to get PR if the kind BI officer is offering. Chance of a lifetime sorta thing. I would have said yes. Beats renewing every few months , works out to be cheaper and you don't have to depart every 36 months. I wish I got offered PR.
Cheers
J
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Post by itsmylife08 on Aug 16, 2023 20:02:27 GMT 7
Hi J Give up my Australian Pension and renounce my Citizenship you're joking right mate, not even in a month of Sundays Never Never do I say, Slim Dusty and Waltzing Matilda are old mates of mine don't ya know!!!  Yeah, I could get PR if I wanted to, as Im married to a Filipina Lady and have a child who was born here but is also an Australian by descent. I shall tread very carefully on that one ( see a previous post) It leaves you liable also for Philippine taxes, plus departure tax of around 5000 pesos I think+++ Cheers Itsa  |
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Post by nomadic on Aug 16, 2023 20:30:53 GMT 7
Gday! Having permanent residency or citizenship of another country or dual citizenship does not affect Australian Pensions. It would be only if you chose to renounce your Australian Citizenship heaven forbid (which would be a terrible idea) then you would not get an Aussie Pension. Cheers J I always stand to be corrected but I thought you must be an oz resident to get a pension and you could not be a resident in 2 countries. |
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Post by ann on Aug 16, 2023 21:02:40 GMT 7
Re the Age pension, this is available definitely for any Australian citizen. Thousands of our old migrants are Australian citizens and have returned to their original homelands to see out their days. They get the Age pension till death, no questions asked. In fact, more recently they have created a new report for ‘proof of life’ because some had died but the pension just kept getting paid into the bank account.
My friend lived in Bali for about 12 years on the disability then age pensions. She told Centrelink she would never come back to Oz, she did because of health issues and they gave her medibank the same day.
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Post by bear on Aug 16, 2023 21:09:21 GMT 7
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Post by JJJ88 on Aug 17, 2023 8:42:49 GMT 7
Hi J Give up my Australian Pension and renounce my Citizenship you're joking right mate, not even in a month of Sundays Never Never do I say, Slim Dusty and Waltzing Matilda are old mates of mine don't ya know!!! Yeah, I could get PR if I wanted to, as Im married to a Filipina Lady and have a child who was born here but is also an Australian by descent. I shall tread very carefully on that one ( see a previous post) It leaves you liable also for Philippine taxes, plus departure tax of around 5000 pesos I think+++ Cheers Itsa Gday It'sa. There's no tax here on foreign income. Well at least that's what I was told. 5k departure tax? Never heard that one before, Ide be confirming all these things directly with a BI officer or BI certified Agent.Having a PR ACR I card is like having gold or at least so I have heard. Cheers J |
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Post by JJJ88 on Aug 17, 2023 8:57:04 GMT 7
Gday! Having permanent residency or citizenship of another country or dual citizenship does not affect Australian Pensions. It would be only if you chose to renounce your Australian Citizenship heaven forbid (which would be a terrible idea) then you would not get an Aussie Pension. Cheers J I always stand to be corrected but I thought you must be an oz resident to get a pension and you could not be a resident in 2 countries. You can leave permanently and they still pay the pension. They ask if your going temporarily or permanently before you go. Always ask first if you will keep getting paid if leaving permanently. Once you have UP IP pensions are paid for life regardless of where your residing |
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Post by itsmylife08 on Aug 17, 2023 13:33:35 GMT 7
Gday It'sa. There's no tax here on foreign income. Well at least that's what I was told. 5k departure tax? Never heard that one before, Ide be confirming all these things directly with a BI officer or BI certified Agent.Having a PR ACR I card is like having gold or at least so I have heard. Cheers J Hi J Like you, that's what I was told by an American friend who was a permanent resident and used to come and go from the Philippines regularly. It got to the stage where he found that having to pay $500 was a drain on his resources more than anything else, so he renounced it, well that was his story and that was that as they say. I do recall seeing the 5k exit tax somewhere online and trying to find it again, but no luck but never mind. As I'm married to a Filipina lady if we exit the country together and return, I can apply for a Balikbayan visa which is good for 12 months free. Swings and roundabouts I say. Cheers Itsa |
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