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Post by Banjo on Feb 28, 2013 10:43:45 GMT 7
My bro has just done all the research in Nz about portability and if reckons that if he stays out for 26 weeks he loses 2/3rds of his pension he is adamant they apply it as absent for more than 26 weeks in ANY one year and you get cut The DSP?
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Post by peter on Feb 28, 2013 14:45:19 GMT 7
Its hard to compare a social security system funded from general taxation as has been the case with the Australian system, until the introduction of widespread superannuation compulsory payments, with other systems that have been based upon more on contributions. Being unable to do that they introduced AWLR to prorata the OAP pension amount for portability.
To read what Mr Swan said about portability in 2002, and Australia being in line with other countries by having a 25 AWLR google.......................Swan AWLR March 12, 2002. Hansard.
He then changes his tune last year to up it to 35 years AWLR.
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Post by Banjo on Feb 28, 2013 16:37:26 GMT 7
The weasel changed his tune after he called Howard mean spirited for reducing the portability period from 26 weeks to 13 weeks.
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Post by Banker on Feb 28, 2013 17:24:12 GMT 7
Yes they all tell lies and can not be trusted.
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Post by takeo19 on Feb 28, 2013 19:31:03 GMT 7
Dont you know their job is to lie? Abbott said he wants to cut dsp and thats no lie and Hockey is known as Joe the slasher. Swan belongs in some river in WA..
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Post by Banker on Feb 28, 2013 19:47:27 GMT 7
But they even tell lies about the lies they are telling. Does that make any sense.
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Post by Banjo on Feb 28, 2013 20:22:39 GMT 7
Little Johnny summed it up best....
"there are core, and non-core promises".
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Post by howdo on Mar 1, 2013 8:17:08 GMT 7
But they even tell lies about the lies they are telling. Does that make any sense. That makes them politicians Banker, below car salesmen and real estate agents in my book.
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Post by Banjo on Mar 1, 2013 9:37:09 GMT 7
I compare them to those born again preachers you see yelling in the street. They want to scare the crap out of you to get as much money out of you as possible.
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Post by melnee on Mar 4, 2013 21:31:14 GMT 7
That is outrageous re old age pension, who do these ignorant c/l staff think put them through free education oh that would be those of retirement age, you know the people that paid their taxes so you had free healthcare, free education & free dental while you (I included) were at school, so u could get your cushy c/l position then tell them they have no freedom to retire where they want to. Not to mention that if you come from England to a new lifestyle in Oz & retire you can get 2 pensions 1 with a nice exchange rate sometimes. (not sure of those exact rules but I think you have to work in Oz for a while to get that) Still again immigrants are better off than those of us who were born in OZ & lived & worked there. (Please don't think that I have anything against immigrants & their entitlements etc, I am only making a political point here to get better & consistant treatment of Australian Pensioners & being an election year I can use this as an example) I have worked in community services & am furthering my study in this area so I have some contacts. I have been an advocate for people like ourselves, this is the reason I know I need a lot of knowledge to fight them with & I have always had a passion for fighting for the under dog, I am a bull terrier with lock jaw around c/l & the federal governments neck from here on in & I WILL NOT LET GO. From this experience I am making it my life's mission to ensure c/l staff start playing fair & by the rules & that they HAVE TO KNOW THE LAW & KEEP THEIR INFORMATION UPDATED & LEARN & UNDERSTAND NEW LEGISLATION, JUST LIKE LAYWERS HAVE TO AS PART OF THEIR JOB. AND I want to help stop them lying & bullying people, I know that these tatics are part of their training & am in the process of trying to get this in physical proof from c/l. We all know the government would love to remove all c/l payments BUT TO LATE the Australian Federal Government adopted the UN Declaration for Human Rights years ago (& added in it's own, more detailed, Declaration special extra laws relating to Disabled people & unless we become a republic & globally declare Australia is no longer a member of the United Nations, this can never change regardless of who is in government. GOOD LUCK with that ever happening. Re the MP's assistant telling anyone that the portability changes are justified as it is kept in line "with other countries" "so what !!! It's in line with other countries if we introduce laws that allow children to be married at 8 years old, 8 year old girls can be married to 50 year old men but does that make it RIGHT to do that ? NO, so I do not accept that as an answer to anything. Can he/she put that in writing as fact & have it personally signed by the MP ? and can they show me the legislation that supports that comment ?? Truly if you don't mind Banjo could I have the names of the MP & assistant so I can ask for that ? At the moment I am more unwell than usual & confined to bed a lot (due to severe vertigo, vomiting etc) and I have a very active mind & hate being bored so i have all day & night everyday to look stuff up, speak to people (landline calls for me are $5 for 200 minutes, money I'm happy to spend) etc etc. As i always enter a battle with a well loaded weapon, can always keep my cool & as I am lucky enough to be well spoken quick witted & lucky to have been well educated & I truly enjoy beating these people at their own games. Mel
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Post by Banker on Mar 5, 2013 4:21:52 GMT 7
Thank you Mel for that wonderful post. Its great to see people like yourself taking up the challenge. I have been a fighter all my life, I have always fought for what I believed in, no matter how many times I get knocked down I would just keep getting back up again. Well after this current sickness, all the fire has gone out of me I no longer have the energy to keep getting back up. This is what happens as you get older and sickness strikes, this is the reason the Australian Government and Centrelink attack us because we are the weak and easy target. So its over to you Mel and all the younger ones that are being attacked by Centrelink. Dont let these BASTARDS Get away with it.
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Post by latindancer on Mar 5, 2013 5:47:58 GMT 7
Hi Melnee, I really do sympathize with you for having vertigo. It's pretty horrible. I've had it a few times, the first being the side-effect of a flu-like virus. I couldn't even roll over in bed without my head spinning in a big way. The doctor called it Labyrinthitis as it is due to the convoluted inner ear becoming irritated. I had it 3 times since as that now seems like a weak link, and I found travel-sick pills controlled it, but they made me very sleepy. Strangely, I have not had it since I started taking magnesium tablets.....which may mean nothing.......or it may mean that the inflammation in my lower back which the magnesium cured, was systemic. A tendency to inflammation in the inner ear may have caused it, or made it worse. I created a thread here about my back pain / magnesium connection.
Banker.....I hope you're at least doing as much walking as you can. That low-level exercise is what will keep your arteries open and expanded.
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Post by Banker on Mar 5, 2013 7:33:16 GMT 7
Thank you Dr Latindancer. Im just going for a walk now. Along here, its a beautiful morning but very cool unusual weather for this month. Attachments:
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Post by Banjo on Mar 5, 2013 8:32:43 GMT 7
LD's is probably caused by all that latin dancing.
I did a couple of years Latin at school but can't remember much dancing involved. Mind you, it WAS a long time a go.....
I'm in the north Banker and they have had a lot of rain, here, the locals are all up early putting a second maize crop in before the rice season. They'll all have new motorbikes next year.
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Post by pete on Mar 12, 2013 7:20:54 GMT 7
To Banjo and Banker, first love your work. I am doing the Freedom of information forms just to be on top of things in Question 7 They ask what documents are you requesting ? Do I say all papers and files for myself or just relevant to portability. Thanks. Now this has become a real hassle, like I have herd C/L could be reading this stuff so that's a worry as well. Every time I call I get different answers to my Questions ,One guy said if it was his choice he would take me off. DSP right now and that he has some people flying from Bali to Darwin in out same day he was really down on me I am 62 what are they going to do with me I am so stressed out about all this I just want to Cry I am a mess staying with friends thank go my old Doctor refused to see me so I had to have my records sent to another doctor he then put me of for a week so he could read my file he wants to help at least he is being NICE . This is just my experience best advice I can give anybody is write every phone call down get names date time I rang the other day must have been my 4th or 5 th call and they said we have no record of you calling before the only answer I had was my phone records in and out ask for receipt number can someone pas this on to Banjo and or Banker,please
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