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Post by spaceyone on Mar 1, 2012 11:42:20 GMT 7
WBMania
My guess is that the JCA interview was the one you attended in 2010. You will have to ask C/L for a copy of it, either by phone or in your local branch.
You will then see how the assessor came to that conclusion, and then be able to argue with it, if they deny you portability based on it.
To request a document, you ask for it by name, provide the date of the document, and a reason for wanting to see it. Not knowing when the interview was will make it a little bit harder, but if you have had only one JCA assessment, they should be able to find its report for you.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 1, 2012 11:51:03 GMT 7
Hi Newtodsp
It seems to be a very good argument to me, to refuse to sign up with an employment agency, due to being so severely impaired that you cannot work. I can't say how C/L would react to that though.
It is getting harder for me to be able to comment about their new processes, as I have not been subjected to them yet. My knowledge came from the marathon-like application I had to make to get onto DSP in the first place. They have changed many of their procedures since then.
I would always advise anyone to not sign up with these employment places, if you can find a way to get out of it. They are not there to find you work, just to make money off your back.
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Post by aussie25 on Mar 1, 2012 12:53:26 GMT 7
I just got off the phone from Centrelink and they said my impairment rating is 30 under the one table but not classed as severe as far as she could see.
I asked about the new legislation and was informed it's already in place and that she would need to send out a medical from which would need to be returned to Centrelink International. I just said I'll worry about it next time but I don't think she knew what she was doing.
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Post by rowdy on Mar 4, 2012 11:47:01 GMT 7
I just got off the phone from Centrelink and they said my impairment rating is 30 under the one table but not classed as severe as far as she could see. I asked about the new legislation and was informed it's already in place and that she would need to send out a medical from which would need to be returned to Centrelink International. I just said I'll worry about it next time but I don't think she knew what she was doing. The person you spoke to at Centrelink was wrong. It is not the first time Centrelink have given wrong information, and it certainly will not be the last. You should have had a copy of the Social Security Act to quote directly back to her and then asked her response. Severe impairment - Section 94(3B) SSActA person's impairment is a severe impairment if the person's impairment is of 20 points or more under the Impairment Tables, of which 20 points or more are under a single Impairment Table.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 4, 2012 15:53:53 GMT 7
Maybe under the new tables, hardly anything is classed as severe - except a coma.
C/L could be trying to apply new ratings, to old scores, without proper reassessment.
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Post by latindancer on Mar 4, 2012 16:16:00 GMT 7
It seems you're aware of some of their tricks
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Post by rowdy on Mar 4, 2012 18:10:54 GMT 7
Maybe under the new tables, hardly anything is classed as severe - except a coma. C/L could be trying to apply new ratings, to old scores, without proper reassessment. The impairment tables do not class a disability as severe or not, they just give an impairment rating based on points. Section 94(3B) of the SSAct provides for the definition of what is a severe impairment. Note, this section has not been amended, nor are there any proposed amendment currently before Parliament.
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Post by zingzingzing on Apr 4, 2012 6:13:22 GMT 7
I Just rang Centerlink - they couldn't give me my information regarding Impairment Rating, the person I spoke to deemed it as a FOI Request and said I had to goto Centerlink Office to get it.
Is this correct?
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Post by wbmania72 on Apr 4, 2012 7:16:54 GMT 7
hi zingzingzing. your Impairment Rating bury in somewhere in their system and not that hard for them to find it.they found mine in 15 seconds. if they say that they CAN NOT give the info away here is how i done it. ring them and ask info about unlimited portability.say just a general inquiry.they will tell you that nothing is clear yet and bla bla bla.say you just want to find out for that you are eligible for it when the law comes in affect on 1.of july and pop the question. say BY THE WAY you want to be sure if your impairment rating is strong enough to apply for it. then cross your finger and wait. regards
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Post by zingzingzing on Apr 4, 2012 8:45:05 GMT 7
Hi wbmania72,
That worked a treat, apparently I'm "20" in the Impairment Rating.
Not to sure what that means - as well what that will mean in the new rules coming to effect.
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Post by wbmania72 on Apr 4, 2012 9:10:04 GMT 7
this is the only info i've found
Severe impairment - Section 94(3B) SSAct
A person's impairment is a severe impairment if the person's impairment is of 20 points or more under the Impairment Tables, of which 20 points or more are under a single Impairment Table.
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Post by zingzingzing on Apr 4, 2012 9:30:47 GMT 7
Cheers for the info, should be interesting to see what happens in when the new rules come into effect, I will be closer to 24 months being on DSP then.
I also question the person on Centerlink, while I was on the phone, about the Unlimited Portability, he did mention he knew nothing about it - only the other changes....
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Post by rowdy on Apr 4, 2012 10:58:51 GMT 7
this is the only info i've found Severe impairment - Section 94(3B) SSAct A person's impairment is a severe impairment if the person's impairment is of 20 points or more under the Impairment Tables, of which 20 points or more are under a single Impairment Table. If you go back through the forum you will see this has been covered before: What is a severe impairmentFor those that don't know a severe impairment is minimum of 20 assessment points under the one assessment table. For example if you have 10 point under two different assessment tables totaling 20 points, you would qualify for the DSP (20 points) but you would not have a severe impairment rating. Section 94 of the SSAct actually gives a few examples: Example 1A person's impairment is of 30 points under the Impairment Tables, made up of 20 points under one Impairment Table and 10 points under another Impairment Table. The person has a severe impairment. Example 2A person's impairment is of 40 points under the Impairment Tables, made up of 20 points under one Impairment Table and 20 points under another Impairment Table. The person has a severe impairment. Example 3A person's impairment is of 20 points under the Impairment Tables, made up of 10 points each under 2 separate Impairment Tables. The person does not have a severe impairment. dspoverseas.proboards.com/index.cgi#ixzz1r2ZsbAAt
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Post by rowdy on Apr 4, 2012 11:09:22 GMT 7
I Just rang Centerlink - they couldn't give me my information regarding Impairment Rating, the person I spoke to deemed it as a FOI Request and said I had to goto Centerlink Office to get it. Is this correct? NO that is not correct at all. Centrelink can and will give you your impairment rating over the phone. The problem is, most don't know the first place where to look as it is not a common question at all. Very easy for them to then fob you off with "you have to put in an FOI request" .... WTF just to find out your % impairment rating. Below is my post from February when I called up to find out. I called Centrelink last week. The person I spoke to said that in his 10 years at Centrelink I was the first person to ever inquire as to what their impairment rating was. He was happy to find out what it was and came back to me 10 minutes later.
30% impairment under one assessment level - severe impairment - work capacity 0 to 7 hours per week.
Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/index.cgi#ixzz1r2bulrf1
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Post by zingzingzing on Apr 4, 2012 11:20:59 GMT 7
Rowdy:
Just for clarification, in my case, the other person I spoke to, just said "20", he didn't say anything about which tables they were or anything, perhaps I should ring back another time to find out exact?
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